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NFL Week 8 |OT| Take A Chill Pill
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Futurevoid
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Some farly candid stuff from Eli about his early career and the current view he has of his receivers. None too suprising to Giants fans who followed Eli early on and some of stuff Shockey and some others were saying at the time.
No doubt he's talking about Plax, Tiki and Shockey (moreso Shockey).
No doubt he's talking about Plax, Tiki and Shockey (moreso Shockey).
It weird how many guys who you would have listed as top WRs before the season are having off years. Megatron, Fitz, AJ Green, Andre Johnson, for various reasons, aren't doing so great. From a numbers perspective Antonio Brown is going nuts. In the non-QB bracket for player of the year, Harvin is right there with JJ Watt imo. The things those two guys are doing are nuts
My personal theory on the WRs is that the league is just letting DBs hold and chuck with abandon, and it's hurting the guys who rely on route running. It can't be called cheating if it's basically part of the game now, so guys who can catch and run have more value
youngwerther
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For the love of god if you must, get the classic logo.
Or the newer one that had the black outline.
This logo is so superior.
The look on his face is one of stunned disbelief.
It's the perfect symbol for our team.
TheLegendary
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Welcome to QB 101, Eli.
https://twitter.com/si_vault/status/261188909625667584/photo/1
Player's poll of most overrated:
34% Tebow
8% Romo
8% Sanchize (guess they don't like Hispanic QBs)
4% Vick
3% Lewis
Player's poll of most overrated:
34% Tebow
8% Romo
8% Sanchize (guess they don't like Hispanic QBs)
4% Vick
3% Lewis
darkside31337
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NFL players evidently spend way too much time watching ESPN.
yankeehater
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Man I hate Romo but Sanchize should be way higher then he is.
I officially hate 34% of NFL players (not including Patriot players of whom I hate 100%).
How can Sanchez be overrated? I feel most critics think he's average at best.
I'd rather have a Cobb.
Ayup, and the personal anecdotes that I've heard about Shockey, from people who met him support this theory 100%.
Elfforkusu
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Jordy is absolutely easier to replace, imo. This is also why I want Jennings to re-sign.
Huh?
Calvin is 5th in passing yards, 2nd in YPC with receivers over 30 receptions, and 2nd in YPG.
AJ is 3rd in yards, 7th in YPG and tied for the league lead in touchdowns.
Here's their projected totals for the season:
Calvin: 101 rec, 1580 yards, 3 TDs
AJ: 100 rec, 1450 yards, 16 TDs
Outside Megatron's TD passes, those are stellar seasons.
DeaconKnowledge
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Lewis should be number 1. Tebow is overrated, but he wasn't in the top 5 of the player picked top 100 of 2012.
Jason's Ultimatum
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Doug Martin gonna run the train on the Vikings.
DeaconKnowledge
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Megatron had sixteen TDs last year. However you want to slice it that's a huge drop,
Though I will say I have to disagree with putting him in that list. Megatron is having a down year because his QB sucks.
My point is TD projections are too fickle at only 6 games played. If his next two games he catches two a piece (very possible), all of a sudden projects to 10 for the year. A drop yes, but nothing outrageous.
Averaging 1 a game is not exactly easily done season after season.
TheLegendary
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But our offense is fine without Jennings these past few weeks and Rodgers has been even better in his absence (not necessarily related of course) . We have so much depth and talent that really no one is irreplaceable IMO. Each week Jennings is out and Rodgers lights it up he reduces his bargaining power, at least with the Packers. Some team will over pay for him. He's injured too often to be worth top dollar at this point IMO especially for our team.
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Futurevoid
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Poor Fitz should get a pass for every year after Warner retired.DeaconKnowledge said:
Thanks! I didn't really look at the numbers that way, but it certainly does show they are still productive. I probably got a little to locked in at looking at other stuff and ignore the sheer production they are having
The thing is, both of those guys have middling catch rates. AJ Green 63%, CJ at 57%. Roddy White is at 71% and Nelson at 74%. YPT for Green and CJ are 8.7 and 8.8. White and Nelson 10.4 and 9.3. Green and CJ are getting numbers, but it's taking more targets than last year
VeryGooster
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On what basis nowadays is Sanchez "overrated?"
Futurevoid
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Packers update:
cuevas. PhD.
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He's a starter in the NFL.
TheLegendary
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Just heard that. Goodbye Gregory
Packers should trade him now.
Jason's Ultimatum
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Apparently Eva Longoria thinks Sanchez is overrated.
Jennings first few years looked like he'd be a little injury prone, but then he made a good run the last few years and stayed "healthy" for a guy that caught so much. Missed a few games last year and now this.... Would like to have him stay with the team but at this point I don't know how much it actually matters.
At first it seemed like any time Jordy had to play the #1 WR role it didn't work out for the team, but he seems to be turning it around and maybe adapting his game from the #2 or slot game he had been playing in years past. Now you see Jones having a bigger year than normal because he's in Jordy's old role and it seems Rodgers likes to go there against lesser DBs.
One of the key plays that game, not that the Rams were ever going to win, was his 3rd down conversion after STL had scored to make it 20-13. Short pass to Cobb, he makes Dunbar whiff, and picks up the first down by beating rest of defense to the marker. Meanwhile Kendricks can't figure out when to run a corner or out. He's essentially a 6th lineman
edit:
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/10/25/snapshot-play-action-passing/
PFF on PA passing and QBs. Alex Smith has the biggest YPA differential on PA passes vs non-PA passes
He's kind of stuck. The Rams OL is bad and they need him to help pass block. He almost always chips before releasing, or delays his release. His problems are that he has a poor catch radius. He can't catch anything outside his frame b/c he doesn't have good hands. He also just isn't as athletic as they thought he would be. Not someone who is a mismatch for LBs in coverage
Does he also not understand where to line up on a regular basis. Could be a relative of HoFinley.
yeah, was that the 3rd and 10?
I just love versatile players like him that can work in space or just abuse people with their speed. Not to slight what Jordy has become, but seeing how Jones is producing makes me place more of the credit on Rodgers considering Jordy had that kind of year when Jennings was healthy.
overrated.
BannedEpisode
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Here is hoping Ponder gets back on track in a big way this week.
DeaconKnowledge
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Standing around Humming and Hawwing about it first is sure a smart idea.
TheLegendary
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DeaconKnowledge
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Hasn't he had this groin injury since Week 2?
Having the surgery ends his year, what's the rush if there are potentially other viable options?
Just kind of glancing on my phone but noticed the post about length of passes. Cobb has lined up in cobra like 40 snaps this year and is running a lot if quick outs, bubble screens and circles (like the one he got the first down on) out of the backfield. He isn't getting targeted downfield because he isn't running a lot of downfield routes. It's not rocket science.
DeaconKnowledge
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Either he rests it, plays on it or gets the surgery. It's not like he's playing on it; i'd just assume that if the injury is severe enough for surgery he'd get it over and done with.
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