Schaub throws interceptions 30% less often. I vote Schaub solely on that.
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Schaub throws interceptions 30% less often. I vote Schaub solely on that.
cuevas. PhD.
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Cutler is a top 32 qb.
The_Darkest_Red
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I'd take Shaub. I think they're both good QBs but Schaub seems more likely to take a team the distance.
Not a fan of the gunslinger style QB? He's just trying to follow in the footsteps of Favre.
Another problem when Cutler is to see who is OC is right now. That aint gonna help him either.
Holding on to the ball and taking a sack is different than having the oline be blown up on nearly every play where either a sack is taken or a throw is rushed!
AndresON777
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Who is better in a big game Romo or Ryan?
I haven't looked but I am guessing the rest of their numbers are fairly similar. Cutler has a way better arm but they've had enough actual NFL snaps that we don't have to look at physicals, we can look at results.
Why do you put an exclamation mark at the end of every completely pedestrian statement?
You don't even know if cutler will or will not be able to lead our team from behind. You have no proof whats so ever for this claim. especially for this year. We won't have compentant opponents until like three weeks from now and even then, who's to say that he can't convert big time third downs or score when needed? Such a baseless claim.
Aren't you a lions fan? You really want to give the bears quarterback coaching?
I think all Vikings fans are pumped, we are doing far better than expected. Sadly, the second half of our schedule is going to be ugly at best. I still stand by my prediction of 8-8, but it will be a hard fought battle.
I will bet cold hard cash AP has 3-5 more seasons at this level of dominance. He is without question IMO the best RB in the league right now (pretty much every stat metric backs that up, or you could just watch him run).
He an absolute beast freak of nature.
storybook77
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Are we talking as a QB or a kick holder? I don't think Ryan has held for field goals.
He's 27 with a catastrophic knee injury. I'm going to arbitrarily add a year to his age because of that. He'll be 28 at the start of next year (29 in Dr. Eznark years). 2013 will be his last dominant year.
But yeah, obviously he is the best running back in the league. Who is questioning that? Who is even close at this point?
sf2fanatic
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Foster and Eli needs to decline now for next year
Exactly my point. He's 27 years old 10 months removed from a catastrophic knee injury... dominating to an almost laughable degree.
You can't apply the regular rules to him, you simply cannot. His 27 is leaps and bounds above most other RB's 24.
BannedEpisode
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Well for the sake of argument, I suppose Arian Foster is on the same level.
The simple fact that Peterson has been about consistent for 5 years though puts him above everyone else though.
We say that about every dominant running back, and every running back dies at 30.
He is going to end up with 300 attempts again this year. Not good.
Foster has not looked terribly dominant this year. He seems to be going down on first contact AND the Packers bottled him up so he must suck.
Goro Majima
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Eh, just because we haven't seen a game manager win a Super Bowl in a decade doesn't mean it won't ever happen again.
I mean, by all means, I hope they keep trying to rely on Cutler to win big and ignoring the Matt Forte/Michael Bush combo.
I agree except I don't see any scenario other than injury that would lead him to bench Vick.
If we are to believe Reid's job is on the line (and I hope its true) then he knows he has to win now and with Vick. Vick has played bad in terms of turnovers but he isn't horrible and certainly not the sole reason they are losing.
Yankeehater will disagree with me but I don't think Banner is that amazing.
He was great at managing the cap but I don't trust him with any football decisions. To what degree and length his power reached in Philly I can't be sure because Reid did have final say but there were always talk that he and Reid would clash sometimes. Or that players would leave and have terrible things to say about Banner and how he treated them.
If you have a clear separation of power and Banner isn't making any football moves but rather the figurehead who works the #s than I don't think he will be a problem.
The Eagles drafts the past 5-6 seasons have been atrocious, especially on the D side. Whether it was Heckert, Roseman, Reid, or Banner I don't know for sure.
Exactly what I don't get about mike tice. Matt forte and micheal bush is easily the best one two punch compliment for any QB. Having cutler out throw the running game is just plain silly, especially when bush/forte throttled that defense last night.
The play calling disgusted me last night when the Bears had first and goal from the 3 when they were up 10 to 0. Three straight passes, wtf? Did the spirit of McCarthy seep into Meathead for a couple play calls? The team has Forte and one of the best short yardage backs in the league with Bush, and they pass 3 times? Should have pounded the ball 3 times into the end zone and the game is over.
sf2fanatic
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TheLegendary
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And MJD out this weekend.
At least now the Packers will have a chance to stop the inevitable comeback in the 4th quarter!
Tice isn't intelligent enough to adjust his gameplan mid-game. The Lions secondary is hot garbage so they planned all week to throw. Guy is an offensive line coach, what do you want from him?
Goro Majima
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Rashad Jennings will get 150 yards rushing and Chad Henne will throw for 300 yards.
Final score: 28-27 Packers. I'm feeling optimistic.
The_Darkest_Red
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Henne's lack of development was tough to watch but he will surprise you with a good game every now and then.
Henne is Alex Smith without the surrounding talent.
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Goro Majima
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I don't have kids but someone needs to explain to me why baby teeth get so much dental attention.
Might as well milk the sheep twice a year.
FrenchMovieTheme
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Shocking news.... Warren moon defends cam against the white devil!
Shocking news.... Warren moon defends cam against the white devil!
I wholeheartedly disagree with the first statement. Who in the last 15 years is comparable to AP? My point is that the regular, commonplace argument against running back production past 30 (which still gives him 3 more years) cannot be made against AP.
His consistent level of play and his play this year after the ACL/MCL whammy is my basis for saying that. Guy puts up 153 on a Top 10 D 10 months after surgery AND with a tweaked ankle, but he'll just wind down like every other back usually does?
Doesn't compute to me.
Agree about Foster though. Couple that with the insane OL he has, and it's been a weird performance this year so far.
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FrenchMovieTheme
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Foster got paid and you're wondering why his play has dropped significantly? Lulz. Told you guys this would happen just like CJ!
TheLegendary
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Foster doesn't hold AP's jockstrap, especially now that he stopped eating meat.
BaltimoreLarry
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Foster isn't the player to put up there with AP. It's Ray Rice. The only thing holding him back is Cam Cameron.
Foster is leading the league in rushing yards and tds even with the garbage Packers game
gg tho
Yup!
Goro Majima
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Compare AP's career to Emmitt Smith then (who didn't have an ACL injury to my knowledge).
There's still a sharp drop off after the first five or six years. I think long term with that ACL injury, there's no way that AP will even be able to match LT's rushing attempts.
The_Darkest_Red
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Man... when you put it like that...
I might actually miss him a little if it wasn't for Tannehill, if only because it's hard enough for the Dolphins to find a QB who is even remotely decent.
I think you're right about this. Did I ever mention that I hate Cam Cameron? Not as much as Nick Saban, though.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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