NFL Week 9 Thread: Kissed By a Coach On The Grey

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If he had a serious injury, then he shouldn't have played, plain and simple. Going on the field less than 100% is stupid, and he risks his career every time he does so. He should take a game or so off, get healthy, then play.
 
Tedesco! said:
I mention the car wreck and the surgery, because that is the excuse that I have heard from most of the Steeler fans I know. If those aren't a factor, fine. I haven't heard a decent reason as to why Ben has performed so poorly this season, other than the previously mentioned explanations.

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Not from this board anyway. I've just recently started to pay attention to this thread, so if the explanations were made, I missed them.

Explanation for his INTS? Bad decisions, isn't it obvious? Plus, he's pressing. He's looking too much downfield in hopes of the bigger play and not using enough of his check downs. Explanation for the sacks and inconsistent running game? The Oline is playing poorly. They've already seen one starter benched for poor play, Simmons. Now we'll see how they deal with Hartings going down to injury. Explanation for the dropped passes? Wilson and Washington aren't Swann and Stallworth. Explanation for the fumbles by the rest of the team? Lack of concentration and poor mechanics.

Reason for special teams that rank near the bottom of the league? Cowher for waiving Chidi thinking nobody would claim him. Cowher and the coaching staff for not having Reid ready to return punts and instead putting Chokely in there.

Explanation for the defense folding like a house of cards in key situations? The front office for not addressing, either through the draft or through FA, the LB and pass rusher issues the team has had, really, for a few seasons now. They have serious depth problems at LB, which leads to last ditch efforts like signing Chad Brown. Another defensive issue is McFadden not progressing like they thought he would. Idea was to have him starting by now, but he hasn't been able to knock Townsend out of the starting spot. And his nickel play hasn't been all that spectacular. Also, the tackling at times has been just short of pathetic.

Explanation for the dancing, show boating, taunting and personal fouls? They are undisciplined and that's a failure of the head coach to have these guys focused.

I'm sorry if none of those are as headline grabbing as, "Big Ben Bites the Big One." But they are reality.
 
Tedesco! said:
If he had a serious injury, then he shouldn't have played, plain and simple. Going on the field less than 100% is stupid, and he risks his career every time he does so. He should take a game or so off, get healthy, then play.
That is what I argued all season long. I thought they brought him back too early both times. He looked really confused in Oakland and was holding on to the ball far too long. Looked like a different person than the qb that scorched KC and Atlanta.

I really wouldn't be opposed to keeping him out against Denver. I swear he is just another concussion away from ending his season and I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen against a good Denver defense.
 
All Steeler hate aside, I really don't get why Cowher keeps throwing him out there every week. I realize he probably feels like Ben gives him the best chance to win, but at some point you have to wonder if Cowher's relying on him too much, or wants him dead (seriously). It's not even about salvaging this season... he's got his QB of the future, so why risk giving him a serious career-ending injury after all the stuff he's been through this year and screwing over the team in the long run?

Or perhaps this is Cowher's master plan to get Adrian Peterson so he'll have another running back to go with Willie Parker.
 
firex said:
All Steeler hate aside, I really don't get why Cowher keeps throwing him out there every week. I realize he probably feels like Ben gives him the best chance to win, but at some point you have to wonder if Cowher's relying on him too much, or wants him dead (seriously). It's not even about salvaging this season... he's got his QB of the future, so why risk giving him a serious career-ending injury after all the stuff he's been through this year and screwing over the team in the long run?

Or perhaps this is Cowher's master plan to get Adrian Peterson so he'll have another running back to go with Willie Parker.
It is stupid, but that is how everyone acts in the NFL. You play for today, even if it means you won't be playing tommorrow.
 
Overall: 79-35
Last week: 7-7 (ugh, falling off the map. Worst week yet.)

Sunday, November 5th
Atlanta at Detroit
Cincinnati at Baltimore
Dallas at Washington
Green Bay at Buffalo
Houston at N.Y. Giants
Kansas City at St. Louis
Miami at Chicago
New Orleans at Tampa Bay
Tennessee at Jacksonville
Minnesota at San Francisco
Cleveland at San Diego
Denver at Pittsburgh

Sunday Night Football
Indianapolis at New England (Last week I bet against the Colts)

Monday Night Football
Oakland at Seattle
 
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thats what im talking about ... Big Ben's revenge in HD glory all across the country
 
Dr. Jade said:
thats what im talking about ... Big Ben's revenge in HD glory all across the country

Not in mine, thank the football gods. The only Steeler game I wanted to watch this season happened last week. :D

5 / 14 for 51 yards, 0 touchdowns and 1 interception. Never forget. NEVER FORGET.
 
I'm starting to think Tennessee was just looking for a reason to keep Pacman Jones from playing in Jax this weekend. Last year he was absolutely taken to school by Jimmy and even got a few personal foul penalties and benched midway through.
 
Last week: 9-5
Overall: 73-41

Sunday, November 5th
Atlanta at Detroit
Cincinnati at Baltimore
Dallas at Washington
Green Bay at Buffalo - I don't know why I keeping picking the Bills
Houston at N.Y. Giants
Kansas City at St. Louis
Miami at Chicago
New Orleans at Tampa Bay
Tennessee at Jacksonville
Minnesota at San Francisco
Cleveland at San Diego
Denver at Pittsburgh

Sunday Night Football
Indianapolis at New England

Monday Night Football
Oakland at Seattle
 
The ONE team in the league that I don't like to watch (Denver) and they seem to be nationally televised every damned week. Blargh. At least it's not Sunday night or Monday night football in which I would be forced to watch them.
 
Dr. Jade said:
thanks Karakand ... thanks alot ... We're tryin to recover here!

Sorry man, just paying back the bullshit slung the Raiders' way during their 0-5 stretch. :)

edit: Correction, that's still slung their way. This is the lead off to the AP story about the game last Sunday:

“As putrid as the Oakland Raiders were to start the season, they're now at least as good—or is it bad?—as the Super Bowl champs.”

SNIP

“Pittsburgh did their best impression of the Raiders by committing four turnovers, four personal fouls and allowing five sacks.”

But just two weeks ago they said:

“The NFL now must be wondering how much better the Super Bowl champions can be after a convincing all-is-well performance.”
 
OFFENSE: RB TIKI BARBER, NEW YORK GIANTS

Barber led the NFL with 490 rushing yards during the month as the Giants put together a 4-0 record to move into first place in the NFC East with a 5-2 mark. The 10-year veteran rushed for at least 100 yards in three of New York's four games as the Giants ranked second in the NFL averaging 169.3 rush yards per contest. Barber, who has led the team in rushing for an NFL-record 71 consecutive games, opened the month with a 123-yard performance versus Washington. The next week, facing an Atlanta defense that entered the game tops in the NFC against the run, Barber rushed for an NFL season-best 185 yards, netting him NFC Offensive Player of the Week honors. Facing Dallas on Oct. 23, the former Virginia standout ran for 114 yards in front of a national TV audience on Monday Night Football. Barber added 13 receptions for 110 yards during the month. On the season, Barber leads the NFL with 715 rushing yards.

In his 10th season from Virginia, this is Barber's third Player of the Month Award (November 2002 and December 2005).

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9773257

:)
 
Who Would Have Predicted This?

Not bad for a guy who only played in four games in the month, as the Saints had their bye week on October 22, while some other NFL teams played five games in the calendar month.

New Orleans Saints rookie wide receiver Marques Colston was named today by the National Football League as October's Offensive Rookie of the Month.

The 252nd of 255 players selected in the 2006 NFL Draft, Colston led all rookies in October with 373 receiving yards, third-most in the NFL, and four touchdown catches, tied for third in the league.

The former Hofstra standout, who was second in the NFL with a 93.3 yards-per-game average, hauled in 18 catches during the month with 16 resulting in a first-down or touchdown (88.9 percent). Colston averaged 20.7 yards per catch in October, the highest average in the league among players with at least 15 receptions.

In New Orleans' four games, Colston posted two 100-yard performances, including a 163-yard game with two touchdowns against Baltimore on October 29, the highest single-game yardage total by a rookie in team history.

The seventh-round selection started the month with a five-catch, 132-yard day versus Carolina on October 1. During that contest, Colston recorded the longest touchdown reception by a rookie in club history with an 86-yard TD. This season, Colston leads all rookies with 577 receiving yards and six touchdown catches. The 6-4, 231-pound receiver needs 108 yards to become the franchise's all-time leading rookie receiver (CAMERON CLEELAND, 684 yards, 1998) and with three touchdown catches can pass DONTE' STALLWORTH (8 TDs, 2002) for the club's rookie record. Colston is second among rookies with 33 receptions, trailing only teammate REGGIE BUSH (42).

Colston is the first player from Hofstra to be honored as the Rookie of the Month since the award's inception in 1996.
http://neworleanssaints.com/newsroomarticle.cfm?articleid=3037
 
Nice ****ing pickup for you guys - Got lucky as hell.


I'm going to the niner game this weekend. Hope we can drop 30 points, because we will definitely give up that much.
 
The Frankman said:
Need some good cheap Fantasy WR picks as I'm over my cap. Any suggs?

QB Michael Vick, ATL[P] @DET 7.4 7.4 --
QB Seneca Wallace, SEA OAK 4.6 4.6 --
RB Larry Johnson, KC[P] @STL 7.9 7.9 --
RB LaDainian Tomlinson, SD CLE 7.8 7.8 --
WR Plaxico Burress, NYG[P] HOU
WR Hines Ward, PIT DEN
TE Desmond Clark, CHI MIA 3.7 3.7 --
K Stephen Gostkowski, NE IND 3.7 3.7 --
D Seattle Seahawks, OAK

I HAVE to take Vick, no-brainer. LT and LJ are the reason I have to chance Seneca Wallace. and the TE-K-D are low-cost that should do well (although the Seahawks D I don't know about). I need cheaper WR's to make it work.
Hello?
 
Tiki :( Don't go

The Giants will never be the same without him. Hopefully they'll find someone to fill that void. I love that hes having such an awesome year.
 
He might have jumped to #2 after Bollinger pulled out the big squadoosh last week
 
So BJ played like Ben Rothlesover against the Patriots. Big deal. It was only one game and their team is clearly in a different tier than ours. I think Brad is still our best chance to win. I'm not quite ready to trade for minor league prospects just yet.
 
storybook77 said:
Ahh, thanks......

So, Whytemyke, care to put your avatar on the line??


Well in his pick 'em he picked Atlanta I think.


I can't get away from worrying about this being a trap game. The Lions are pretty good passing the ball and if Donatell gets complacent(sp?) with his zone and 4 man rush, I think this game maybe closer than it should be. This is a good game for our defense to redeem itself for the last two weeks.
 
tmdorsey said:
Well in his pick 'em he picked Atlanta I think.


I can't get away from worrying about this being a trap game. The Lions are pretty good passing the ball and if Donatell gets complacent(sp?) with his zone and 4 man rush, I think this game maybe closer than it should be. This is a good game for our defense to redeem itself for the last two weeks.

It's a trap game for sure but hopefully we won't go through the same shit we did last year. If we can beat the teams we're supposed to beat (Detroit, Cleveland) then I'll be very happy at 7-2 going into Baltimore.
 
storybook77 said:
It's a trap game for sure but hopefully we won't go through the same shit we did last year. If we can beat the teams we're supposed to beat (Detroit, Cleveland) then I'll be very happy at 7-2 going into Baltimore.


Oh yeah that's definietly the goal, is to be 7-2 when we face the Ravens. We also can't afford to give away conference games at this point.
 
tmdorsey said:
Oh yeah that's definietly the goal, is to be 7-2 when we face the Ravens. We also can't afford to give away conference games at this point.

I hate having two road games before a home game....sucks to wait that long.
 
I guess Falcon fans have realized that they have a real shot at a bye for the playoffs if they keep rolling...

Boy am I glad the Giants got that head to head win. :D Hopefully we smoke the Saints later in the season too. Once we beat the Bears things will get tighter for all of us. ;)

Oh wow I just saw the Eagles schedule, they end the season with three straight road division games and then Atl in Philly. Brutal. :lol Guess it's what they get for that chump of a schedule early in the season.
 
Ok. I just looked at the Giants schedule I will definetly be rooting for you guys to beat the Bears, and then if you guys can drop 2 of your remaining games after that, that might put the Falcons in a good position. :D
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/061103

Watching Manning celebrate on the sidelines while we were at my friend Jimmy's house, I made the perfect analogy that I can't use here because it's a family Web site, so I'll pass along the sanitized version: Manning looked like a guy who had just spent the past five years dating someone who never made him chocolate chip cookies, and now, he found himself dating a girl who made the best chocolate chip cookies in town. And the look on his face was like, "Woo hoo! I FORGOT HOW MUCH I LOVE CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIES! I'm gonna get chocolate chip cookies all the time!!! Woo-hoo! Woo-hoo!"

:lol
 
Tiki Barber's wife was the catalyst behind the Giants star's decision to hang up his helmet. A longtime friend of Barber says she made him afraid he'd suffer a catastrophic injury that would turn him into a lousy dad.
-- New York Post

That sucks if its actually true
 
Even worse, everyone's lack of historical perspective has been more skewed than ever: Like Phil Simms remarking during the tail end of Indy's victory in Denver, "over on the sideline, you've got two of the best clutch players in NFL history in Adam Vinatieri and Peyton Manning." Um ... what?????? What planet is this? And to think, I used to defend Phil Simms. I don't even know how to react to a statement like that; Simms could have called Manning "one of the greatest African-American quarterbacks of all-time" and it wouldn't have been any less perplexing.

funny


Lefty said:
That sucks if its actually true

yeah, she didn't have that concern until AFTER they could afford that huge manhattan penthouse!
 
Every chick in the universe: "I'm attracted to you because you're a rich rock star/cage fighter/heroin addict, but now that I've married you I'd rather you not do any of those things."
 
"Joey Harrington on the road in Chicago? Come on. The real question: Has there even been anything like Chris Chambers basically running 75 wind sprints every Sunday for five straight years while his QBs bounced the ball in front of him or sailed passes over his head? For all we know, Chambers might be one of the five greatest receivers of all-time. Is there a way to simulate how his career would have unfolded playing on the Colts?"

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Btw.. Slo you never accepted or declined my 1 week avatar bet on this week's game.
 
storybook77 said:
So, Whytemyke, care to put your avatar on the line??

Stolen any candy from a baby today?

Slo said:
Every chick in the universe: "I'm attracted to you because you're a rich rock star/cage fighter/heroin addict, but now that I've married you I'd rather you not do any of those things."

I CAN CHANGE HIM
 
Oh god, why did I bother to read that Bill Simmons article? Not only was it stupid Boston sports talk for 70% of the column but I had to find out that he was a stinking communist that hated the Pens in the early 90s. Now I really hope the guy and his unfunny columns take a long walk off a short cliff.
 
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