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[Syrinx]

Quoting myself on Cam from yesterday





Yep.

At the end of the day, 9-7 made the playoffs. The Panthers ended up 6-10 and you could argue that they should have won/had a good shot at winning 5 of those games they lost (Broncos, Bucs I/II, Chiefs, Raiders). This season was more a story of missing opportunities than just consistently bad football. The core of the team is still strong, they just need to stop trying to fix the holes with dollar store scotch tape. What's the point of all that work Getts did to get the Panthers out of cap hell just to not use that cap room when its available? The only person who gains from that is Richardson (who lets be fair, has directed his GM to save on football expenditures before, see 2010)

The thing with Cam is that his dropoff was so insane this year. He went from MVP to worst QB in his own division. And the weapons around him were mostly the same as last year plus Benjamin (my Panther fan uncle says he may be literally insane).

I just think going forward you're not going to know what the fuck you're getting out of Newton. His inconsistencies seem to be more year to year than game to game. Last year you hit the jackpot and got God Newton. This year you got shit Newton. Which will you get next year? Will it be somewhere in between (probably, but that's a huge range)? Injuries are a factor, the start to the season is a factor, etc.

Agree that a complete overhaul should not be in the cards for you guys at least.

 

[bionic77]

Defensive teams always revert the year after. It is just harder to maintain that level on d than it is on offense.

Carolina was more disappointing because we all assumed the South would be garbage and they were not losing as much as Denver. Also it is really hard to be disappointing after you win the SB no matter what happens the next year. You are still the champs until Trump gives the Trump Football trophy to the Pats in February shortly after swearing in.

 

[FloydtheFathead]

#StillAPanther
#NoItsYOURFaultFloy

Coach K is going to retire next

 

[this_guy]

@HoustonTexans: Want to eat like the #Texans?

Get half off the @fuddruckers Texans Burger all week! https://t.co/0Kgqs0vOpT

Texans fans are already winners. And we look good in our Palais Royal apparel. We're doing it.

 

[Syrinx]

Defensive teams always revert the year after. It is just harder to maintain that level on d than it is on offense.

Carolina was more disappointing because we all assumed the South would be garbage and they were not losing as much as Denver. Also it is really hard to be disappointing after you win the SB no matter what happens the next year. You are still the champs until Trump gives the Trump Football trophy to the Pats in February shortly after swearing in.

They said during the game yesterday that Carolina led the league in sacks this year but had the worst pass defense in terms of YPG.

I didn't even know that shit was physically possible.

 

[Grover Cleveland]

Coach K is going to retire next

I've been prepared for K to retire for 5 years now.

But Duke has 5 national championships and shit ton of wins. The brand will be OK without K.


Whereas with the Panthers...

 

[Vixdean]

The thing with Cam is that his dropoff was so insane this year. He went from MVP to worst QB in his own division. And the weapons around him were mostly the same as last year plus Benjamin (my Panther fan uncle says he may be literally insane).

I just think going forward you're not going to know what the fuck you're getting out of Newton. His inconsistencies seem to be more year to year than game to game. Last year you hit the jackpot and got God Newton. This year you got shit Newton. Which will you get next year? Will it be somewhere in between (probably, but that's a huge range)? Injuries are a factor, the start to the season is a factor, etc.

Agree that a complete overhaul should not be in the cards for you guys at least.

This isn't really true though, and it's due to the perception that he played way above his average last year. Years 1-5, Cam was basically the same dude, the variation came from the team around him.

 

[Striker]

Partyin' with the Biebs

Cruz in the red hat, OBJ, Roger Lewis Jr. and Sterling Shepard on far right.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

The texans/raiders game will be the worst playoff game ever

 

[CrocMother]

 

[this_guy]

The texans/raiders game will be the worst playoff game ever

That may be true for Raiders fans as the Texans will crush them 8-3!

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Kubiak sounded like a heartbroken man in that press conference.

 

[chuckddd]

Partyin' with the Biebs



Cruz in the red hat, OBJ, Roger Lewis Jr. and Sterling Shepard on far right.

Which one is the Biebs?

 

[FloydtheFathead]

I've been prepared for K to retire for 5 years now.

But Duke has 5 national championships and shit ton of wins. The brand will be OK without K.


Whereas with the Panthers...

Who comes into replace K?

 

[Lionel Richie]

Carolina was more disappointing because we all assumed the South would be garbage and they were not losing as much as Denver. Also it is really hard to be disappointing after you win the SB no matter what happens the next year. You are still the champs until Trump gives the Trump Football trophy to the Pats in February shortly after swearing in.

Holy shit I'm not sure Brady is going to be able to handle his emotions, I fully expect him to spew out how they cheated this time in the heat of the moment. I think Belichick might have to kill him now before it happens.

 

[squicken]

No surgery for David Johnson. "Only" an MCL sprain

 

[bionic77]

Partyin' with the Biebs



Cruz in the red hat, OBJ, Roger Lewis Jr. and Sterling Shepard on far right.

That shirtless life.

 

[BigAT]

Partyin' with the Biebs

Cruz in the red hat, OBJ, Roger Lewis Jr. and Sterling Shepard on far right.

Save As -> joyconboyz.jpg

 

[Doominated]

That may be true for Raiders fans as the Texans will crush them 8-3!

Two field goals and a safety, right?

 

[Sweeney Tom]

@Eric_Edholm
Wow

Jed York: "I own this football team. You don't dismiss owners."



#Pray4FMT

 

[Officerrob]

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‏@RapSheet
Source: #Raiders are flying in FA QB Garrett Gilbert and he’s expected to sign on their practice squad. Could be active later this week

Championship!!

 

[DMczaf]

TAMPA, Fla. -- Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarterback Jameis Winston has eclipsed the 4,000-yard passing mark for the second straight season, becoming the first quarterback in NFL history to pass for 4,000 yards in each of his first two seasons.

 

[Striker]

Which one is the Biebs?

He's the captain.

 

[DMczaf]

With a touchdown throw to Mike Evans, Winston has broken the Bucs' single season touchdown record. Winston and Josh Freeman were tied at 27 heading into Sunday's game. Winston now has 28. He also has broken the team's single-season passing record.

 

[effzee]

York basically saying Chip and Trent couldn't get along.

Why fire both?

 

[Officerrob]

@Eric_Edholm
Wow

Jed York: "I own this football team. You don't dismiss owners."



#Pray4FMT

He's not wrong, York could have handled that MUCH worse

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Who does he play in the playoffs

 

[Tom Penny]

Partyin' with the Biebs



Cruz in the red hat, OBJ, Roger Lewis Jr. and Sterling Shepard on far right.

Tims and jeans in 90 degree weather is the shit.

 

[Officerrob]

York basically saying Chip and Trent couldn't get along.

Why fire both?

Baalke was being fired, and you allow the new GM to hire their own coach

 

[Fitts]

On that thought, Chiefsplanet is probabaly the worst sepecific online football fanbase/forum as far as NFL forums goes so I'm not surprised. So much racism, hatred and overall bigotry.

Yeah, I went there once. Included with the above was a comment along the lines of being envious of Andy's son for not being alive to see his father "fail" the Chiefs. And of course there were replies to reinforce the sentiment thereafter.

Absolutely disgusting. Checked it out for a laugh and left mortified. Never again.

 

[Mindlog]

Blessed ����

Who does he play in the playoffs

Your mom.
Gator burned ��

 

[this_guy]

Two field goals and a safety, right?

Yes. You cant expect a TD and a 2 point conversion. That's like 2 consecutive successful red zone plays.

 

[effzee]

Baalke was being fired, and you allow the new GM to hire their own coach

Not unless if you think the GM was the problem and want to give a coach a chance to build something.

49ers had a garbage roster so I don't get this expectations logic.

 

[jbug617]

He's not wrong, York could have handled that MUCH worse

To be fair he tried to avoid saying that but the reporter kept asking for a response

 

[Drakeon]

@Eric_Edholm
Wow

Jed York: "I own this football team. You don't dismiss owners."



#Pray4FMT

Wish you could though. Fucker thought Tomsula could do as well as Harbaugh. Jesus christ what a shitshow this whole organization has been since 2014 (well, whenever the Harbaugh to Cleveland rumors started really, not sure if that was late 2013).

 

[jbug617]

Andy Reid giving the team a week off

Andy Reid said that the players will be in today, then they will be let go until next Monday.

 

[Officerrob]

On that thought, Chiefsplanet is probabaly the worst sepecific online football fanbase/forum as far as NFL forums goes so I'm not surprised. So much racism, hatred and overall bigotry.

Chiefs-GAF is fine though from what I've seen

No lies detected, that place is fucking gross

 

[Dishwalla]

On that thought, Chiefsplanet is probabaly the worst sepecific online football fanbase/forum as far as NFL forums goes so I'm not surprised. So much racism, hatred and overall bigotry.

Chiefs-GAF is fine though from what I've seen

Been reading this board a little bit lately and yeah it's terrible. Their politics subsection in particular is something else. Just reading through this thread on Net Neutrality is enough to make your brain stop.

 

[Grover Cleveland]

This isn't really true though, and it's due to the perception that he played way above his average last year. Years 1-5, Cam was basically the same dude, the variation came from the team around him.

Outside of the touchdowns and the int%, Cam in 2015 was well within all of his career averages. Like you said, he was perceived to be playing way better than in the past, most likely due to (A) QB WINZ and (B) he just looked better. All that "he's finally figured it out!" talk about his on-field mannerisms and body language, that damn towel, the dab, all of it.

Who comes into replace K?

Most likely they stay in the Duke/K family.

Jeff Capel (who is the guy standing in during his leave of absence now) is probably the clearest choice considering the fact that he already has head coaching experience at a major program.

At one point, someone like Brad Stevens was a popular idea, but he's too well established in the league now. I don't see him going back to college.

 

[squicken]

Wish you could though. Fucker thought Tomsula could do as well as Harbaugh. Jesus christ what a shitshow this whole organization has been since 2014 (well, whenever the Harbaugh to Cleveland rumors started really, not sure if that was late 2013).

For whatever reason it seems Jed just did what Baalke told him to do. It's kind of like Doug Whaley and Rick Smith where you wonder what is going on for these guys to have such organizational power

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Blessed ����

Your mom.
Gator burned ��

Jameis isn't good

 

[Officerrob]

Not unless if you think the GM was the problem and want to give a coach a chance to build something.

49ers had a garbage roster so I don't get this expectations logic.

Being forced to keep a coach with almost no success in the NFL is going to severely limit your GM options. GM's want their own guy, it's that simple

 

[Syrinx]

He's gonna own every single-season and career Bucs QB record by the time his rookie contract expires.

 

[Drakeon]

For whatever reason it seems Jed just did what Baalke told him to do. It's kind of like Doug Whaley and Rick Smith where you wonder what is going on for these guys to have such organizational power

Whaley is amazing, he survived a ownership change and yet still has all this power after fucking taking EJ Manuel and having strong disagreements with multiple coaches (wasn't he the reason Marrone left town?)

Rick Smith is also surprising, in that, all his years there, he can't bring in a single good QB. Can't draft them and when he gets a shot at a FA QB, he takes Osweiler. I'm assuming Schaub was long enough ago that it wasn't Smith who took him. Schaub was a decent QB for a while.

 

[MechDX]

Whaley is amazing, he survived a ownership change and yet still has all this power after fucking taking EJ Manuel and having strong disagreements with multiple coaches (wasn't he the reason Marrone left town?)

Rick Smith is also surprising, in that, all his years there, he can't bring in a single good QB. Can't draft them and when he gets a shot at a FA QB, he takes Osweiler. I'm assuming Schaub was long enough ago that it wasn't Smith who took him. Schaub was a decent QB for a while.

Smith took over in 2006 after the draft. Yes he was here for Schaub

 

[Drakeon]

Smith took over in 2006 after the draft. Yes he was here for Schaub

What I meant was, was he responsible for you guys acquiring him? Or did he come in after that?

 

[FloydtheFathead]

[
Most likely they stay in the Duke/K family.

Jeff Capel (who is the guy standing in during his leave of absence now) is probably the clearest choice considering the fact that he already has head coaching experience at a major program.

At one point, someone like Brad Stevens was a popular idea, but he's too well established in the league now. I don't see him going back to college.

I see..

Jameis isn't good

He's better than Tebow

 

[Doomsayer]

For whatever reason it seems Jed just did what Baalke told him to do. It's kind of like Doug Whaley and Rick Smith where you wonder what is going on for these guys to have such organizational power

I got this as well, and I still can't understand why. The only reason any of Baalke's picks looked good was because of Harbaugh. Look at how fucking awful this team is with all of Baalke's boys.

Jed York should die of a gonorrhea and burn in hell.

 

[Drakeon]

I got this as well, and I still can't understand why. The only reason any of Baalke's picks looked good was because of Harbaugh. Look at how fucking awful this team is with all of Baalke's boys.

Jed York should die of a gonorrhea and burn in hell.

Of the names floated so far for GM (Caseiro in NE, Ballard from KC) do you like any of them? I was going over Barrow's possible hires and I probably prefer Ballard. I'm not thrilled about McDaniels/Caseiro combination hire, if only because I remember the shitshow he had in Denver (and fucking trading up for Tebow in the first round).

 

[Sweeney Tom]

He's better than Tebow

This is like saying everyone in this thread was statistically better at rushing this season than Reggie Bush

It's true but not that high of praise