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[Talon]

And despite the mockery that Jermichael receives on this forum, which I find odd by the way because no Packer fan has anointed him (or Rodgers for that matter) as hall of fame bound like people seem to suggest, he is the very definition of an impact player and we lost him to IR early on too.

It's the fact that he's a TE and the usual suspects in the media reacted like Jerry Rice in his prime had been slain by a sniper.

And I don't think most here are diminishing y'all's injuries. Your IR is ghastly.

 

[Buckethead]

It's the fact that he's a TE and the usual suspects in the media reacted like Jerry Rice in his prime had been slain by a sniper.

Media reaction or not...

Middle threat, great blocker. Tall mf-er, super quick.
350 yards, played 4 games. Averaged 14.5 yards.

Pretty impressive.

 

[exarkun]

Goddamn, How LONG AM I GONNA HEAR ABOUT LUCK AND HARBAUGH?

When was the last time a college coach and qb from the same school were so high sought? Pete doesn't count.

I know ESPN is just gonna milk this shit forever. Good on Harby to dodge all those questions.

 

[Futurevoid]

which I find odd by the way because no Packer fan has anointed him

I'm pretty sure FMT started that particular meme way back in week 2 or 3 when commenting on Finley's play in an argument with a member of Packers-Gaf (FaceisonFire?). He said something about the NFL amending their HOF rules to let him in early.

Then in week 9 thread, someone mentioned Michael Lombardi noting that Finley would be in the Top 100 players list in 20 years to which this response was given:

I think Finley could be just as good as Tony Gonzalez someday...

So yeah, top 200 player.

All depends on how he comes back from surgery of course

The future Hall of Fame induction of Finley as a legend has grown from there.

 

[TheLegendary]

It's the fact that he's a TE and the usual suspects in the media reacted like Jerry Rice in his prime had been slain by a sniper.

And I don't think most here are diminishing y'all's injuries. Your IR is ghastly.

I'm pretty sure it's because Lombardi picked Finley as a future hall of famer on that Top 100 players show. Not sure why that was so outcry-worthy as the point of the whole thing was for the crew to make ridiculous predictions anyway. But whatever.

And I'm pretty sure Striker's entire point was to diminish the injuries.

 

[Talon]

Middle threat, great blocker. Tall mf-er, super quick.
350 yards, played 4 games. Averaged 14.5 yards.

Pretty impressive.

Where did I say the man wasn't good?

It's not like your offense has a paucity of passing weapons with Jennings, Driver, Jordy, and (yes) Jones outside.

 

[Futurevoid]

And I'm pretty sure Future's entire point was to diminish the injuries.

ummm, what?

 

[TheLegendary]

ummm, what?

Striker. My apologies. Fixed above. You Giants fans all look alike!

 

[Goro Majima]

I still stand by my opinion of Finley for the record.

We'll see how next year turns out!

 

[Buckethead]

Where did I say the man wasn't good?

You didn't. But despite our talent, none of those guys are TEs or middle-of-the-field threats.
Finley is our 3rd down target not to mention a serious deep threat.

Very confusing for defenses. Opens up slants and other fun stuff.

Anyway, this thing is all started with Striker saying something completely incorrect, don't give us shit for correcting him.

 

[Futurevoid]

You Giants fans all look alike!

Understandable what with that ridiculous recreation of a block of cheese atop your forehead obstructing your eyesight.

Spoiler

Just fuck up the Eagles this weekend and all is forgiven

 

[Dirtbag]

(While we are on the subject) From what I've seen from Jimmy Graham so far, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he becomes the next stud TE in the NFL. I can't believe we got him so late in the third round, it seems almost absurd given his upside. Makes me wonder how most coaches scout players, and glad we brought him in to workout with the team.

 

[T.M. MacReady]

Packers-Age is so hardcore, lol. Finely spending rehab working on his HOF speech.

 

[Narag]

Packers-Age is so hardcore, lol. Finely spending rehab working on his HOF speech.

That's done already. He's working on his comeback player of the year thank you speech.

 

[Equus Bellator Apex]

Packers-Age is so hardcore, lol. Finely spending rehab working on his HOF speech.

lol

 

[BakedPigeon]

If only Singletary was fired a week sooner!

If only the Niners played the Cardinals 3 times a year!

 

[squicken]

Well after listening to the nation's top journalist Bill Simmons, and the top analyst, Mike Lombardi, place the blame elsewhere for Bradford's poor performance, I am now back to calm and sure once again he is on his way to elite status.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

GO NINERS BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITCH!!!!

 

[Bowser]

Speculation has run rampant the past few days, with various reports linking names including Cleveland defensive coordinator Rob Ryan with the Panthers search. And despite national reports to the contrary, the Panthers have had contact with Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh for weeks.

YES!

One name that has been discussed, but would likely be a fallback position, is Steelers offensive coordinator Bruce Arians. The 58-year old Arians was also Peyton Manning's first quarterback coach as a pro, and has been with the Steelers since 2004. According to sources close to the process, owners Dan Rooney and Jerry Richardson discussed Arians earlier this season.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

Well after listening to the nation's top journalist Bill Simmons, and the top analyst, Mike Lombardi, place the blame elsewhere for Bradford's poor performance, I am now back to calm and sure once again he is on his way to elite status.

of course they didn't blame goldenboy bradford. he's going to be one of those qb's where no matter how the team loses people make excuses for him.

 

[jakncoke]

YES!

Do it bitches Do it!

 

[dschalter]

of course they didn't blame goldenboy bradford. he's going to be one of those qb's where no matter how the team loses people make excuses for him.

it's not quite as funny when you make fun of yourself.

 

[RBH]

One name that has been discussed, but would likely be a fallback position, is Steelers offensive coordinator Bruce Arians. The 58-year old Arians was also Peyton Manning's first quarterback coach as a pro, and has been with the Steelers since 2004. According to sources close to the process, owners Dan Rooney and Jerry Richardson discussed Arians earlier this season.

PLEASE HAPPEN!!!! :lol :lol :lol

 

[NomarTyme]

YES!



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:lol

 

[ConradCervantes]

Let's see here...

BAL@KC

NYJ@IND

NO@SEA

GB@PHI

 

[DMczaf]

GO NINERS BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITCH!!!!

Don't do it Jim! Read the numbers, not the words!

 

[bigosc2k]

Sat, Jan 8th
NO @ SEA
NYJ @ IND

Sun, Jan 9th
BAL @ KC
GB @ PHI

10-6 last week overall 156-100

 

[T.M. MacReady]

Came into NFL-Gaf way too late for regular season picks, but i'll get in on the playoffs.

Sat, Jan 8th
NO @ SEA
NYJ @ IND

Spoiler

BELIEVE

Sun, Jan 9th
BAL @ KC
GB @ PHI


Holy crap I just took four road teams.....

 

[VALIS]

Holy crap I just took four road teams.....

I'm taking all four myself this weekend, too. Ever since the league went to 4 divisions per conference, we always seem to get a few weak divisional winners in the first round of the playoffs.

 

[T.M. MacReady]

I'm taking all four myself this weekend, too. Ever since the league went to 4 divisions per conference, we always seem to get a few weak divisional winners in the first round of the playoffs.

Crazy part of this: Every road team has a better record than their home opponent.

Packers and Eagles are both 10-6, but technically, the Packers won the head to head so they would be above them in standard standings. Ridiculous.

 

[Striker]

And I'm pretty sure Striker's entire point was to diminish the injuries.

Not at all. All teams get them, just some more severe and at positions that are brittled in depth.

For instance, GB would survive more easily losing Finley than players like Jennings, Driver, Jones, and/or Nelson, or a combination of those said WR's above (like the Giants losing Smith, Barden, Cruz, and for a quarter of other games, Nicks). RB is another, but Jackson filled in decently enough for Grant, who as I said, still is a fairly good player, but not worth an outcry over.

 

[RBH]

I had no idea how bad things were for the Cincinnati Bengals organization until I read about this today:


- Cincinnati is the Northern-most team without an indoor practice facility in the NFL.
- The scouting department consists of only 1 scout and 3 "scouting consultants", all of whom are family/friends of Mike Brown.
- The head coach has no control over who is drafted/signed in free agency.
- The head coach also has no control over who is on his coaching staff, as Mike Brown selects them.



I have alot more respect now for Marvin Lewis for being able to win the AFC North twice while dealing with this kind of shit.

I mean, they have a scouting department consisting of basically 1 fucking guy! :lol

 

[Narag]

That's insane.

 

[TheLegendary]

Yep...heard about that last year probably when his job was in jeopardy as well. Like the middle ages over there in Cincy.

 

[Gigglepoo]

Maybe if I pray real hard, the Seahawks will destroy the Saints, causing Payton to get fired and join the 49ers.

 

[Goro Majima]

Wow my high school of less than 2000 students had an indoor practice facility.

Madness.

 

[chuckddd]

One name that has been discussed, but would likely be a fallback position, is Steelers offensive coordinator Bruce Arians. The 58-year old Arians was also Peyton Manning's first quarterback coach as a pro, and has been with the Steelers since 2004. According to sources close to the process, owners Dan Rooney and Jerry Richardson discussed Arians earlier this season.

:lol The new tag. Although biscuit justice was also awesome.

 

[GraveRobberX]

NO @ SEA - Just for the LULz to be had, oh + Saints-Age on Suicide Watch lol

NYJ @ IND - Revenge Tour 2011 Starts Here

BAL @ KC - I believe in the Ray"Old Spice, Shoots Twice in Chest, 1 in the Head" Lewis

GB @ PHI - Just want to see Philly have it's annual heartache

 

[Gigglepoo]

Don't games usually go two home/two away opening weekend?

Philly over Green Bay
New Orleans over Philly
Indy over NY
Baltimore over KC

Boring picks, but it's how things usually play out.

 

[polyh3dron]

Rooting for Steelers and Eagles since my fucking Chargers choked.

Also want to see the Seachickens win on Saturday for lulz.

This is the first NFL season I have followed from start to finish in YEARS, probably since about '99. It's been a pretty bizarre season at times, but pretty fun to watch nonetheless.

 

[Firaeus]

NO @ SEA

NYJ @ IND

BAL @ KC

GB @ PHI

 

[jakncoke]

http://i42.tinypic.com/16bwknm.jpg[IMG]

:lol [B]The new tag[/B]. Although biscuit justice was also awesome.[/QUOTE]
:lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[ViperVisor]

Goddamn, How LONG AM I GONNA HEAR ABOUT LUCK AND HARBAUGH?

When was the last time a college coach and qb from the same school were so high sought? Pete doesn't count.

I know ESPN is just gonna milk this shit forever. Good on Harby to dodge all those questions.

 

[dschalter]

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[Narag]

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I still feel ill remembering that. Christ.

 

[Hartt951]

Wow, just read we ended the season as the Number 1 team in Offense, Defense, and Sacks. And we went 9-7 agaisnt a horrible schedule. What a season...

 

[Big-E]

Wow, just read we ended the season as the Number 1 team in Offense, Defense, and Sacks. And we went 9-7 agaisnt a horrible schedule. What a season...

Why yards obtained and yards given up are utterly meaningless.

 

[Gigglepoo]

Why yards obtained and yards given up are utterly meaningless.

Pssh, you're looking at a former fantasy football champion!

 

[verbum]

Another mock draft list from yesterday, some interesting guesses:
Some caveats:

This mock, of course, has a few contingencies. First and foremost, picks 21 through 32 are based on current record, when in actuality, the final order of those picks won't resemble what you see here at all. In order to not offend fans of any team currently playing for post-season glory, we're going to leave the order as is for the time being.

There's also the small fact that this mock draft is very heavy-handed when projecting underclassmen to pro teams. It's quite likely that at least one of the underclassmen listed here bucks the trend and stays in school. For the time being, we're considering all draft-eligible underclassmen for this mock. Collegiate underclassmen have until January 15 to declare themselves eligible for the 2011 NFL Draft.

1. Carolina Panthers (2-14): Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford (SO). Jimmy Clausen has done absolutely nothing in his rookie season that would prevent a new set of Panthers decision-makers from taking Luck, the consensus top prospect in the nation.

2. Denver Broncos (4-12): Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU (JR). Without the benefit of knowing how John Elway will help re-structure the Broncos, we'll simply give them the best player available. Peterson would fill a need and help prepare for the eventual departure of Champ Bailey.

3. Buffalo Bills (4-12): A.J. Green, WR, Georgia (JR). Buffalo certainly has bigger needs, but Bills GM Buddy Nix doesn't mind taking the best player, particularly in round one. A receiving corps featuring Green, Stevie Johnson and Lee Evans would keep defensive coordinators from sleeping well next season.

4. Cincinnati Bengals (4-12): Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson (JR). Too cheap to take a franchise-type quarterback in the Top 5, the Bengals will settle for the draft's best pass rusher to pair up with freshman sensation Carlos Dunlap (9.5 sacks as a rookie in 2010).

5. Arizona Cardinals (5-11): Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska (SR). This is another team that will likely be monetarily averse to taking a risky QB prospect this early. Amukamara is a rock-solid cornerback prospect that would pair up well with Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie.

6. Cleveland Browns (5-11): Julio Jones, WR, Alabama (JR). It's still tough to get a good read on Cleveland's drafting tendencies with Mike Holmgren in town. We do know this: the Browns desperately need targets for Colt McCoy, and Jones is a fantastic fit for the West Coast Offense.

7. San Francisco 49ers (6-10): Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn (JR). The 49ers will have a new GM and a new head coach, so it's unclear precisely what direction they'll take at this point in time. Fairley is a safe assumption here, as he's near best-available quality and strengthens an already-solid 49ers defense.

8. Tennessee Titans (6-10): Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama (JR). The Titans may take a hard look at the top available quarterbacks, but they'll have a hard time passing on a stud defensive lineman like Dareus to let the NFL's best defensive line coach, Jim Washburn, turn him into a star.

9. Dallas Cowboys (6-10): Robert Quinn, OLB, North Carolina (JR). As Jason Garrett will remain Dallas' head coach, it's likely that they'll look to upgrade their defense early. Quinn is a high-upside pass rusher to groom as a potential successor to the solid, not spectacular Anthony Spencer.

10. Washington Redskins (6-10): J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin (JR). Mike Shanahan will take a long, hard look at the top quarterback prospects available, but with such a peculiar taste in signal-callers, we feel safer projecting a stud defensive linemen to Jim Haslett. Watt's stock is soaring.

11. Houston Texans (6-10): Brandon Harris, CB, Miami-FL (JR). This isn't exactly a secret: if Gary Kubiak plans to coach the Texans beyond the 2011 season, he needs to do whatever is necessary to improve his awful defense. A solid CB prospect would help him accomplish that.

12. Minnesota Vikings (6-10): Cam Newton, QB, Auburn (JR). Let's just say that we actually believe Brett Favre this time around. Minnesota is going to be in the market for a franchise quarterback, and they won't be afraid to gamble a little on a high-upside player like the Heisman Trophy winner.

13. Detroit Lions (6-10): Janoris Jenkins, CB, Florida (JR). Jim Schwartz and company are doing an outstanding job turning the Lions around, and they're doing so by drafting quality players. Jenkins would add to that reputation, and help shore up what is still a rather awful pass defense.

14. St. Louis Rams (7-9): Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame (JR). If you missed the Rams' Sunday Night Clunker in which they lost the NFC West, you probably noticed that Sam Bradford got zero help from his undermanned receiving corps. Receiver is a rather massive need in St. Louis.

15. Miami Dolphins (7-9): Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama (JR). If Tony Sparano and Dan Henning find a way to survive Miami's late-season collapse, they'll focus on improving their team's bread and butter: the running game. Without a quality linemen of value here, the Dolphins add by far the best runner available.

16. Jacksonville Jaguars (8-8): Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State (SO). This team hovers on the edge of playoff contention yet again, but can't get there because of their lack of offensive firepower. Adding a sophomore with 111 catches and 20 touchdowns in one season seems like an OK idea.

17. New England Patriots (f/OAK): Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State (SR). Heyward isn't particularly scheme versatile, but he's a heck of a tough football player. If anyone can find a home for Heyward in his scheme, it's Bill Belichick. The rich get richer.

18. San Diego Chargers (9-7): Cameron Jordan, DE, California (SR). How does a team lead the NFL in offense and defense, yet miss the playoffs? We digress; Cameron Jordan is an excellent fit in the Chargers' defensive system, and absent a good pass rusher being available, made the most sense to us here.

19. New York Giants (10-6): Akeem Ayers, OLB, UCLA (JR). Despite their latest late-season collapse, the Giants still have a ton of talent on the defensive side of the football. They do need to upgrade at OLB, however, and Ayers has the coverage ability to excel in Perry Fewell's zone schemes.

20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (10-6): Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa (SR). Tampa Bay improved from 3-13 in 2009 to 10-6 in 2010 under Raheem Morris; to say this youthful team is headed in the right direction would be an understatement. Clayborn is the best available player at a position of need. Win-win.

21. Seattle Seahawks (7-9): Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas (JR). Sorry, Charlie Whitehurst. You may have helped the Seahawks win the NFC West, but yeah, you're not the long-term answer for Pete Carroll. Mallett's a nice value selection at this point, and could be a good system quarterback in the NFL.

22. Kansas City Chiefs (10-6): Jonathan Baldwin, WR, Pittsburgh (JR). Dwayne Bowe has been several kinds of awesome this season, but he'll be a free agent following the 2011 season, and he's the only receiver opponents need to pay attention to. Baldwin has excellent natural talent.

23. Indianapolis Colts (10-6): Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State (SR). Enough is enough, Bill Polian - it's time to do some serious re-tooling to that offensive line. Not even Peyton Manning can withstand constant protection breakdowns. Sherrod is a nice fit for Indy's offensive blocking scheme, and could start immediately.

24. Philadelphia Eagles (10-6): Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon State (SR). When all else fails, the Eagles draft defensive tackles with their first pick (see: Mike Patterson, Brodrick Bunkley, Trevor Laws). Paea is the best value here, and a better pick than reaches at bigger areas of need.

25. Green Bay Packers (10-6): Justin Houston, OLB, Georgia (JR). Dom Capers is creative enough to generate pressure simply with good scheming, but when it comes to Packers pass rushers, it's Clay Matthews or bust. Houston would help diversify Capers' play-calling arsenal.

26. New Orleans Saints (11-5): Greg Jones, OLB, Michigan State (SR). The Saints don't have a lot of glaring weaknesses, but linebacker is one of them. Jones is a good athlete and an active, diversely skilled player that could start on the weak side, and also has the experience inside to spell Jonathan Vilma from time to time.

27. Chicago Bears (11-5): Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College (SR). We love Jay Cutler, but we're pretty sure Jay Cutler doesn't love getting drilled into the turf a dozen times per game. Chicago needs an immediate O-Line contributor badly; Castonzo topped our list in that department.

28. New York Jets (11-5): Allen Bailey, DE, Miami-FL (SR). Rex Ryan prefers (easy joke redacted), and also doesn't mind adding pass rushers and cornerbacks with his draft picks. But Bailey is a stout run defender that fits very well into Ryan's system; he'd be an excellent value selection here.

29. Baltimore Ravens (12-4): Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado (SR). Again, this is a team that doesn't have a lot of glaring weaknesses, but their depth in the defensive backfield was severely tested in 2010, to say the least. Ozzie Newsome could do a lot worse than adding a big, physical corner to his roster.

30. Pittsburgh Steelers (12-4): Mike Pouncey, OG, Florida (SR). Brother Maurkice is already a Steeler, and apparently, he let the cat out of the bag: the Steelers like Mike, as well. For a team still in need of fine-tuning their offensive front, adding a second Pouncey makes a great deal of sense.

31. Atlanta Falcons (13-3): Jurrell Casey, DT, USC (JR). The imperfect Falcons have a couple of glaring weaknesses despite being the NFC's best regular season team (OT, WR), but Casey is too good to pass up here. The Falcons can definitely upgrade their three-tech DT spot, where Peria Jerry has been a disappointment.

32. New England Patriots (14-2): Marcus Cannon, OG, TCU (SR). If New England doesn't flip their No. 17 overall pick for four more picks in the Top 20 in the 2012 NFL Draft, then they'll probably do so with this pick. We won't project trades, however, so we'll give the Pats a rising O-Line prospect that could start right away at right guard.

I would like to see Atlanta take a big/tall receiver in the second/third round since Harry Douglas seems like he has a tendency to drop things. And if a good one is still available in the first round, go for it.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/1/3/1910205/2011-nfl-mock-draft-andrew-luck

 

[Equus Bellator Apex]

I don't see the Bears being competent enough to take a lineman in the first round.