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[SliceSabre]

Players will fold like they always do. No football will be missed.

This right here.

NFLPA has no spine and will kiss the ring the moment the owners put some pressure on them.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

The issue I have is with guaranteed contracts is that you will have some players who suck and don't deserve the pay they're getting.

Do you have a problem with some owners who suck and don't deserve the pay they are getting with guaranteed TV contracts?

 

[DominoKid]

LOL we'll see when we get to it. Guaranteed contracts or bust

 

[Bronx-Man]

It's an embarrassment that these guys are destroying their brains for years and can't even get guaranteed contracts out of it.

 

[LJ11]

Do you have a problem with some owners who suck and don't deserve the pay they are getting with guaranteed TV contracts?

I do! Can't do shit about it though.

NFL has such a large talent pool right now, they have so many players entering the league every year, these guys are willing to take prove it deals so they can possibly hit the lotto with their next contract. That's a big hurdle for the players to overcome when they try to gun for guaranteed money. At least the guaranteed portion has gone up relative to where it was.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

The issue I have is with guaranteed contracts is that you will have some players who suck and don't deserve the pay they're getting. Someone like Pablo Sandoval is getting $50M for being terrible. I do understand the need to get some money because of a career ending injury. Most of us work under pay for performance. Why should sports be any different?

Maybe the owners should be more careful about who they sign then.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

I do! Can't do shit about it though.

NFL has such a large talent pool right now, they have so many players entering the league every year, these guys are willing to take prove it deals so they can possibly hit the lotto with their next contract. That's a big hurdle for the players to overcome when they try to gun for guaranteed money. At least the guaranteed portion has gone up relative to where it was.

So you think ownership that consistently puts subpar product on the field and delivers losing seasons year in and year out, should be rewarded with guaranteed money but the players should not because...can't do shit about it?

Ok.

 

[Kickz]

NFLPA needs to amass the warchest of funds to have players survive a year without game checks.

The demands need to be;

-Guaranteed contracts
-Independent commission to dole out punishments
-Guaranteed medical

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Exactly. For most NFL owners, their team is their side hustle.

yep. they do this for fun and winning; not for the money.

 

[Peter Ian Staker]

So you dedicate all your life to a sport only for your pro career to likely last only 3—4 years of non guaranteed money and leave you with lasting brain damage that will destroy your quality of life when you are older.

Why would anyone choose that sport?

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Why would anyone anyone choose that sport?

Because you are essentially the best at your position throughout your life and treated like a rock star as a result.

If you can make it to the league, you're going.

 

[Kill3r7]

So you dedicate all your life to a sport only for your pro career to likely last only 3—4 years of non guaranteed money and leave you with lasting brain damage that will destroy your quality of life when you are older.

Why would anyone choose that sport?

In that time frame they will earn more money than the rest of their lives. There is a very small chance that they will become superstars and be set for life. Also, a pension if they last long enough.

 

[Gorillaz]

not expecting much

NFLPA is notoriously soft on these big moments with the league


players always crumble on the big stage

 

[Quotient]

Guaranteed contracts are going to be difficult to fight for since the majority of NFL careers is 4 years. Any strike is going to hurt the players.

If the owners do agree to guaranteed contracts, the result is going to be a drop in player values. Football is a violent sport. Injuries happen frequently and with a short season time, time to recover is limited. Teams are going to just sign players to smaller and shorter contracts.

 

[LJ11]

So you think ownership that consistently puts subpar product on the field and delivers losing seasons year in and year out, should be rewarded with guaranteed money but the players should not because...can't do shit about it?

Ok.

Not what I said, I do have a problem with it, a majority of the owners are trash, nothing any of us can do about it unfortunately. I'd dump many of them, trust me.

Also didn't say that players shouldn't be entitled to gtd $, only said it would be hard for the players to push this through with the talent pool being as big as it is, hard to get everyone on the same page.

Vets earning big bucks get cut all the time, because the young bucks are clawing at their heals waiting to take their roster spot. If you have Revis playing at replacement level, some UDFA may be able to play just as well for 500k a year. Economics will be hard to break.

Also, how do you handle buyouts with the cap? Do you do what the NHL does? Probably going to have to limit the amount of buyouts per team, can't have a richer team just dumping cash to get rid of below avg players. I'm not against gtd contracts, just think the factions won't push it through.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Not what I said, I do have a problem with it, a majority of the owners are trash, nothing any of us can do about it unfortunately. I'd dump many of them, trust me.

Also didn't say that players shouldn't be entitled to gtd $, only said it would be hard for the players to push this through with the talent pool being as big as it is, hard to get everyone on the same page.

I apologize if I misunderstood.

It has nothing to do with talent pool and believe me, the talent pool isn't that large, especially at skill positions. There is a reason pre season football (when the second and third stringers get in the game) is borderline unwatchable.

There's a reason why when a player like Earl Thomas goes down with an injury, the next man up isn't even close.

 

[LJ11]

I apologize if I misunderstood.

It has nothing to do with talent pool and believe me, the talent pool isn't that large, especially at skill positions. There is a reason pre season football (when the second and third stringers get in the game) is borderline unwatchable.

There's a reason why when a player like Earl Thomas goes down with an injury, the next man up isn't even close.

I know what you're saying, but the NFL sells the myth of the 5th round HoF better than any other league. There's this fear that you're going to lose your job if you miss time, like you're always on bubble so you better showout or your ass is getting dropped. NFL depth is always suspect, you see playoff teams drop out year after year due to injuries alone, look at the Panthers for example, but the NFL sells the longshot better than any league and it scares players.

 

[Raylan Targaryen]

The issue I have is with guaranteed contracts is that you will have some players who suck and don't deserve the pay they're getting. Someone like Pablo Sandoval is getting $50M for being terrible. I do understand the need to get some money because of a career ending injury. Most of us work under pay for performance. Why should sports be any different?

owners don't know how to spend money, players shouldn't be penalized for that.

 

[The Maverick]

NFLPA will fold as soon as the prospect of missing games is close. It's a disgrace how profitable the league is and how little they get in return comparatively. Guaranteed needs to be the mantra.

Knowing football culture, players will grovel back for a pat on the head.

 

[watershed]

Guaranteed contracts should be issue number 1 but it won't happen. Players don't have the unity to stay together through a total work stoppage which is what it would take.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

If they get guaranteed salaries, the owners will collude to keep the market low (low years, lower amount per year). QBs will still get a shit load but they already get a lot. They are the only position who doesn't get royally fucked