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NHL April 2015 |OT| Dustin Brown, Dustin Bro--
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lol yeah no they aren't, unless Markov is out there with him and Price is there to bail him out from his giveaways.
I am pretty sure the Norris goes to the guy who had the best season, not the guy who you would have for 1 game.
Ok what's a good stat to show how one person is better than another person defensively, because all we're going by is reputation. Oh hes good offensively, HE MUST BE BAD IN DEFENSE.
:lol at Shea Weber, motherfucker not even the best dman in his own team, let alone the league.
:lol at Shea Weber, motherfucker not even the best dman in his own team, let alone the league.
SmackCrackleNPop
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We're all Nucks tonight
Stuggernaut
Grandma's Chippy
I would not argue that baseball takes no skill. I have a hard time believing that hockey is considered so low on that pic.
All pro sports take skill, but to put a game where you need to do so much at once so far below those other major sports?
NBA ranked so high? Sure basketball is tough, but come on...A basketball fan so made this graph, since they have no understanding of other sports ;P
All pro sports take skill, but to put a game where you need to do so much at once so far below those other major sports?
NBA ranked so high? Sure basketball is tough, but come on...A basketball fan so made this graph, since they have no understanding of other sports ;P
Unhandled Exception
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Man basketball sucks
I'm just saying lol. I don't have a problem with giving Karlsson the Norris. He deserves it as much as anyone.Ok what's a good stat to show how one person is better than another person defensively, because all we're going by is reputation. Oh hes good offensively, HE MUST BE BAD IN DEFENSE.
I think you guys are missing the point a little. The idea isn't that a game "takes luck", but that luck influences the outcome to varying degrees. You still need a ton of skill to play any sport at an elite level.
ShinRPGamer
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Winnipeg definitely have to win tonight. Kings need to lose too but it's meaningless if the Jets lose as well.
Go Jets! Go Canucks!
Go Jets! Go Canucks!
Lol @ using giveaways has a counter argument, particularly when Karlsson is sitting at #3. If a coach won't use a "Norris" winner in that situation, he probably shouldn't win the Norris. There needs to be separate awards for D men, one for points and one for defensive D men plain and simple, Karlsson could rack up all the Bobby Orr awards he wants. I never even said Subban should win it this year either.
Unhandled Exception
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Do they put those on the cars to make suspects feel like they have common interests?
I think there's bias against Karlsson and Subban. Regardless of situation their skill of getting the puck and moving it out is useful, especially if you're defending a lead. If a coach a picks Weber over either of them I'd think they were coloured by this misconception of what a d should look/play like over actual evidence.
CreeperBlocks
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The Yankees are the Leafs of the MLB.
Yup, will be cheering for these two tonight.
Mets are a more apt comparison, Yankees have actually won titles in the last few decades.
CreeperBlocks
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I miss the Expos Man.
I might say the Cubs
Me too, but the team just wasn't viable. I wish baseball was bigger here.
I'm just glad Youppi survived.
Them too.
Lone_Prodigy
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7 Bloodborne threads on the first page of Gaming. I guess the long weekend meant more time for people to play.
I agree there should be an offensive defenceman award. If there's an Art Ross (for the best offensive player, usually a forward) and a Selke (for the best defensive forward), why not split the Norris? Weber definitely benefits from playing with Josi (and Suter before then), but Subban doesn't benefit from Markov, or Karlsson with Methot?
If Weber wins the Norris it will be because he doesn't have one yet and the competition is pretty even this year.
I agree there should be an offensive defenceman award. If there's an Art Ross (for the best offensive player, usually a forward) and a Selke (for the best defensive forward), why not split the Norris? Weber definitely benefits from playing with Josi (and Suter before then), but Subban doesn't benefit from Markov, or Karlsson with Methot?
If Weber wins the Norris it will be because he doesn't have one yet and the competition is pretty even this year.
Even the Mets have been to the World Series in this century. The Cubs are the Leafs of the MLB.
Phtshp pls
I will forever hate the Nationals for taking the Expos away.
That 94 lockout was the worst thing that could have ever happened.
i can tell by the pixels
CreeperBlocks
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Hey you got a tag
Bloodborne must have the record for most threads within a games launch window.
Yeah, I dont know why I got it or what it means. I think a mod was drunk or something.
Calamari41
41 > 38
I'm starting to want the Kings to finish the season strong.
SmackCrackleNPop
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Yeah, I dont know why I got it or what it means. I think a mod was drunk or something.
But what about cousinfrog?
How sexually attractive is the cousin?
so does soccer tho
I think the "luck" factor of hockey mostly stems from being the by-far fastest sport on that list, which can lead to a lot of bounces and instinct-plays. And instincts is kind of hard to tell apart from luck sometimes. So I get where they're coming from... but it's not like "luck vs skill" is a linear scale. Hockey requires a ton of skill BUT there is some luck involved. I'd say chess definitely has less luck involved than hockey, but nobody is saying chess requires more skill than hockey
that's not how you spell canucks.
edit:
on that note, we are all a fans of who ever lays out Toffoli or Brown
I agree with this, I don't remember a year where it's been this even for the Norris, not in a while anyways.
By far the way luck/randomness affects a game the most is how high-scoring it is. The more scoring plays that occur, the greater the sample size that goes into separating the "skill" involved. That's the main reason basketball is less random, because there are so many scoring plays. The team that plays better usually wins.
Hockey is the most low scoring of the pro sports (except soccer), so it follows that randomness plays a bigger role in determining the victor.
I think there are a few reasons why soccer is (apparently) less random than hockey, and speed is one part of it. Another is probably the size of the goal / impact of the goalkeeper (much less than in hockey). Another is perhaps the length of the game -- 90 minutes gives the better side a greater opportunity to win.
Hockey is the most low scoring of the pro sports (except soccer), so it follows that randomness plays a bigger role in determining the victor.
I think there are a few reasons why soccer is (apparently) less random than hockey, and speed is one part of it. Another is probably the size of the goal / impact of the goalkeeper (much less than in hockey). Another is perhaps the length of the game -- 90 minutes gives the better side a greater opportunity to win.
so does soccer tho
I think the "luck" factor of hockey mostly stems from being the by-far fastest sport on that list, which can lead to a lot of bounces and instinct-plays. And instincts is kind of hard to tell apart from luck sometimes. So I get where they're coming from... but it's not like "luck vs skill" is a linear scale. Hockey requires a ton of skill BUT there is some luck involved. I'd say chess definitely has less luck involved than hockey, but nobody is saying chess requires more skill than hockey
A soccer field probably has less abnormalities than some of the ice surfaces in the NHL, and doesn't get deformed over the course of a game.
A puck bouncing is a lot harder to predict than a round ball too, although a soccer ball has wind to contend with.
only reason it won't happen is because Habs were in the playoffs last year and went far :lol
the voters are so predictable
CreeperBlocks
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It's From Reddit. I wouldn't trust it.
But there was a GAF thread like 2-3 months ago where someone was verified by bish and said RDR2 is coming soon. I wish I could find the thread
Soccer fields may have less abnormalities overall but they vary a lot from field to field, the ball just won't behave the same in two different fields, for example, not even in the same city sometimes, and if you take into account the use of synthetic grass in some of the fields, a lot more of randomness is added.
IIRC there have been a few posters on here that have said that RDR2 is coming soon, over the last 2 - 3 years that is.
More of a matter of when it is releasing, rather than if it is eventually releasing (imo).
Certainly, but less than hockey I'd think.
Coldnoodle
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Regulation loss it is then.
Unhandled Exception
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Driving to the airport tomorrow during rush hour. RIP my patience.