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[zroid]

Marleau was so lazy there....

well that's one way to redeem yourself

 

[Unhandled Exception]

Woo at least it's not 4-0!

 

[Heretic]

We're a team who idolize Corey Perry. What are you expecting?

But seriously, if you're referring to earlier, it's just irritating seeing downer tank talk and people cheering for their teams to lose. How is that at all in the spirit of hockey? Long term benefit is obvious, but living today and in the moment is key. Life can slip right past you if you aren't around to take glee in the minor victories, the spoils of war, and the chance to see the players wearing your team's jersey achieve something.

When the Ducks were tripping in their final Carlyle season, the draft was something we looked forward to, but Heretic and I always loved a win. To see the returning players achieve something personally and looking at bright spots on the team was our savior.

And yes, we were eyeing Dumba while doing it.

My Captain <3

I remember our reaction to passing on Dumba hahaha! Hampus is a freaking STUD! Ducks scouts freaking rock!

 

[DrForester]

I hate you, Berra...

 

[Xeteh]

I hate you, Berra...

Can't really blame Berra for tonight.

 

[Fata1moose]

Can't really blame Berra for tonight.

Oh yes we can! It doesn't have to make sense.

 

[Unhandled Exception]

Berra is why we'll draft McDavid

 

[Smiley90]

Berra is why we'll draft McDavid

you're welcome!

 

[Unhandled Exception]

you're welcome!

I'd give up McDavid if it meant Berra never happened

 

[Xeteh]

I'd give up McDavid if it meant Berra never happened

You're insane.

GG Sharks. Thanks for the help in the McDavid lottery.

 

[zroid]

Roy going full Roy

I hope ROR keeps his streak alive

 

[Unhandled Exception]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

 

[zroid]

goal aside, why the fuck would you put John Scott out on the ice in a 6v5 situation

Spoiler

yeah why would you put him out in any situation but still

 

[Xeteh]

Do the Sharks have any other players that have scored nearly nothing all season that need to net one? We can pull Berra again.

 

[Acid08]

John Scott.

 

[Unhandled Exception]

That was totally worth my time. Same thing Friday? Same thing Friday.

 

[Pikma]

Just arrived from the Ducks game. Expected to watch two teams playing playoff hockey, unfortunately only one showed up. 6 goals made for a very entertaining game though

Oh and it made it even more difficult to me to understand how the hell that piece of shit of a team beat us 4-0 last week.

 

[SmackCrackleNPop]

We're a team who idolize Corey Perry. What are you expecting?

But seriously, if you're referring to earlier, it's just irritating seeing downer tank talk and people cheering for their teams to lose. How is that at all in the spirit of hockey? Long term benefit is obvious, but living today and in the moment is key. Life can slip right past you if you aren't around to take glee in the minor victories, the spoils of war, and the chance to see the players wearing your team's jersey achieve something.

When the Ducks were tripping in their final Carlyle season, the draft was something we looked forward to, but Heretic and I always loved a win. To see the returning players achieve something personally and looking at bright spots on the team was our savior.

And yes, we were eyeing Dumba while doing it.

I remember being pissed we didn't get Dumba as he was available, just got some doofus named Hampus Lindholm.

Anaheim is better at drafting than I am.

 

[zroid]

I remember being pissed we didn't get Dumba as he was available, just got some doofus named Hampus Lindholm.

Anaheim is better at drafting than I am.

a lot of Leaf fans were pissed they took Rielly over Dumba too

woof.

 

[Dastardly Jerks]

I don't know why we all expected Dumba to be akin to the next Pronger or whatnot. It's what all the scouting reports were saying.

He seems to be working out for the Wild nowadays, but we're all obviously happy with our alternate picks.

Lindholm is a goddamn stud, and that moment will never ever make me question Anaheims scouting staff ever again.

 

[Dastardly Jerks]

Found Quick on r/creepy...

 

[Ursn]

No need to worry! See?

Ok I see you were just confused who was only going to make the one point. Sorry I doubted you! Wooo ducks murder!

 

[Solo]

Big game tonight vs the Caps as they are very likely the Habs' first round opponent. I hope we don't get a reverse 2010.

 

[CreeperBlocks]

Big game tonight vs the Caps as they are very likely the Habs' first round opponent. I hope we don't get a reverse 2010.

13 more days until the playoffs actually start.

 

[Foggy]

<---- Offseason thread.

I heard more positive, constructive and hopeful conversations in rehab.

Dude, you're my dude, dude.

 

[zroid]

Dougie Hamilton's "upper body injury" is apparently broken ribs... so.... that sucks

edit: off-topic, I just want to bury my face in this box art

 

[Calamari41]

edit: off-topic, I just want to bury my face in this box art

I would just allow direct deposit access to my bank account if Nintendo opened up the floodgates with Yarn Yoshi merch.

 

[CreeperBlocks]

I wish Nintendo made a Yarn Amiibo Line. Like Yarn Donkey Kong, Yarn Mario, Yarn Link, Etc

 

[Quick]

Just wanted to set the record straight with Dastardly on my behalf regarding tank talk:

It's mostly in jest. It actually sucks seeing my team be as terrible as they are right now. But in light of that, the silver lining of it all is at least the draft and the Leafs organization possibly being prompted to make changes. This season's been really deflating, especially after being in the playoffs just a couple of seasons ago - you'd think that would be a sign of improvement. Best way I can cope is to joke about it at least. Tankaku!

I'd like to think that the rest of us tank team fans are within that same mindset.

PS: At least we're not the Oilers.

 

[Solo]

Leafs are now 11 years* without a playoff birth.

*lockout shortened season lol

 

[ShaneB]

Big game tonight vs the Caps as they are very likely the Habs' first round opponent. I hope we don't get a reverse 2010.

Considering the point gap now compared to then, no one is an underdog that makes the playoffs in my opinion.

And yes, I'm excited as hell for this game tonight. May end up watching the first period with an extended gym stay, and miss a bit of the second period.

edit: If the weather stays nice as well tonight maybe I'll be watching this one out on my balcony.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

So Mason is 3rd in SV% and 8th in GAA and yet he has a losing record... fucking christ...

 

[shadowkat]

Just wanted to set the record straight with Dastardly on my behalf regarding tank talk:

It's mostly in jest. It actually sucks seeing my team be as terrible as they are right now. But in light of that, the silver lining of it all is at least the draft and the Leafs organization possibly being prompted to make changes. This season's been really deflating, especially after being in the playoffs just a couple of seasons ago - you'd think that would be a sign of improvement. Best way I can cope is to joke about it at least. Tankaku!

I'd like to think that the rest of us tank team fans are within that same mindset.

PS: At least we're not the Oilers.

Yeah, this is pretty much it.

 

[zroid]

So have you guys heard about the Adam Gold draft lottery proposal?

It's a really inventive solution in my opinion, doesn't really have a significant downside that I can think of either.

If you're unaware, basically it proposes that the draft order should be determined by how many points a team obtains after it has been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. That is, the more points you earn, the earlier you pick. In theory it works because the crappier teams get eliminated sooner so they have more games left to earn points toward a higher draft pick. But fans and management still can't outright get on #TankNation since they need to be good enough to actually win games down the stretch. Plus it's a lot more fun for fans than hoping their team loses.

 

[Smiley90]

So have you guys heard about the Adam Gold draft lottery proposal?

It's a really inventive solution in my opinion, doesn't really have a significant downside that I can think of either.

If you're unaware, basically it proposes that the draft order should be determined by how many points a team obtains after it has been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. That is, the more points you earn, the earlier you pick. In theory it works because the crappier teams get eliminated sooner so they have more games left to earn points toward a higher draft pick. But fans and management still can't outright get on #TankNation since they need to be good enough to actually win games down the stretch. Plus it's a lot more fun for fans than hoping their team loses.

Doesnt that kind of defeat the purpose? What about bad teams that are just incapable of winning, they'd never get better.

The biggest downside to this though is scheduling. If you only consider a subset of games you make it rely on what matchups teams have in those games way too much.

 

[Calamari41]

So have you guys heard about the Adam Gold draft lottery proposal?

It's a really inventive solution in my opinion, doesn't really have a significant downside that I can think of either.

If you're unaware, basically it proposes that the draft order should be determined by how many points a team obtains after it has been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. That is, the more points you earn, the earlier you pick. In theory it works because the crappier teams get eliminated sooner so they have more games left to earn points toward a higher draft pick. But fans and management still can't outright get on #TankNation since they need to be good enough to actually win games down the stretch. Plus it's a lot more fun for fans than hoping their team loses.

Won't that just move #TankNation to the first day of the regular season? This plays directly into their favor and basically permanently screws the teams that are legitimately not good, since they won't be winning games period.

 

[Bobs Big Boy]

So have you guys heard about the Adam Gold draft lottery proposal?

It's a really inventive solution in my opinion, doesn't really have a significant downside that I can think of either.

If you're unaware, basically it proposes that the draft order should be determined by how many points a team obtains after it has been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. That is, the more points you earn, the earlier you pick. In theory it works because the crappier teams get eliminated sooner so they have more games left to earn points toward a higher draft pick. But fans and management still can't outright get on #TankNation since they need to be good enough to actually win games down the stretch. Plus it's a lot more fun for fans than hoping their team loses.

Ideal solution for competition, keeps the regular season interesting for everyone.

 

[calder]

In a perfect world, there would be no draft honestly. The draft exists not to make bad teams better but to make young players cheaper. Which is fine, but in a salary cap league it's not really that necessary anymore.

The Gold plan is fun (and much better than any lottery could be imo) but I kinda like the wheel method where teams have randomly assigned but preordained draft positions every year. Let's face it, good teams usually stay good because they have good management and bad teams stay Oilers for the same reason - the draft doesn't actually help bad teams as much as we tend to imagine it does.

 

[Socreges]

From the FE If thread:

This is probably the worst character design of the whole series, by a wide margin

However campy that may be, it's kinda fun. Not in a sexual way but I find the idea of an "opposite skirt" kinda amusing. Like, it has a window for exactly what regular skirts should cover at the very least.

Anime fans are the worst. They'll rationalise anything.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

What's wrong with anime fans? Also, I guess sexiness is a bad thing now? If you played the game and she popped up, would she offend you and stop playing?

 

[Kave_Man]

Trying to fix tanking is impossible. Just mess around with the percentages and move on.

Heck have it more like the NBA where you could have the best percentage to get the top pick but end up picking 4th.

 

[zroid]

Doesnt that kind of defeat the purpose? What about bad teams that are just incapable of winning, they'd never get better.

what teams are those? the 2014-15 Buffalo Sabres are the worst non-expansion team in league history, but they've still won a decent number of games since being eliminated. and Tim Murray probably would've tanked less blatantly if this was the system in place.

Out of curiosity I wonder what the draft order this year would be under this system.

 

[Samyy]

Trying to fix tanking is impossible. Just mess around with the percentages and move on.

Heck have it more like the NBA where you could have the best percentage to get the top pick but end up picking 4th.

That's esaentially what it is next year

 

[Kave_Man]

That's esaentially what it is next year

Then I'm happy.

edit: Until the Leafs have the worst record in the league and pick 6th.

 

[zroid]

In a perfect world, there would be no draft honestly. The draft exists not to make bad teams better but to make young players cheaper. Which is fine, but in a salary cap league it's not really that necessary anymore.

I kind of agree with that, the draft can be entertaining but how is it remotely fair to anyone, especially the kids being drafted? They should get some say in the matter of where they go.

teams shouldn't simply be rewarded for incompetence, but at the same time they should be given the opportunity to dig themselves out of a hole. removing the draft would allow that.

 

[calder]

what teams are those? the 2014-15 Buffalo Sabres are the worst non-expansion team in league history, but they've still won a decent number of games since being eliminated. and Tim Murray probably would've tanked less blatantly if this was the system in place.

Out of curiosity I wonder what the draft order this year would be under this system.

I saw on twitter the other day that under the Gold plan this year #1 would be going to... the Oilers. Abort! Abort!

But it is a great system. And yeah this year is very unusual not because of McDavid but because of McDavid *and* Eichel, that's what makes the usual lottery system much less effective. I still think they could come up with something better though, even if the depths of this years tankapalooza are unlikely to happen again anytime soon.


EDIT: oh yeah, if anyone is interested in an even crazier draft alternative than the Gold Plan, here is The Wheel as explained by Zach Lowe at Grantland. He talking about it for the NBA, but it could in theory work the exact same for hockey.

Grantland obtained a copy of the proposal, which would eliminate the draft lottery and replace it with a system in which each of the 30 teams would pick in a specific first-round draft slot once &#8212; and exactly once &#8212; every 30 years. Each team would simply cycle through the 30 draft slots, year by year, in a predetermined order designed so that teams pick in different areas of the draft each year. Teams would know with 100 percent certainty in which draft slots they would pick every year, up to 30 years out from the start of every 30-year cycle.
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The system is simpler to understand in pictorial form. Below is the wheel that outlines the order in which each team would cycle through the draft slots; the graphic highlights the top six slots in red to show that every team would be guaranteed one top-six pick every five seasons, and at least one top-12 pick in every four-year span:

 

[bonesmccoy]

The 'prevent tank' crisis is reminding me of the 'NHL refs are just horrid' crisis.

These ideas crop up and occupy everyone's attention for 8 months and then largely pass into memory.

 

[Solo]

Drafting order should just be a random lottery with all 30 teams having equal odds. Done.

 

[Smiley90]

Drafting order should just be a random lottery with all 30 teams having equal odds. Done.

You say that now, but what if the Kings win the Cup AND draft McDavid, WHAT THEN

 

[trifelife]

Sven Baertschi has 13 points in 12 games for Utica

Ben Hutton scored in his first game

Hunter Shinkaruk has goals in five straight

After a decade without almost any interesting prospects, it feels pretty good man