Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
With how dumb players have sounded during this debacle, i'm not even sure they know the definition of the word "aggressive."
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With how dumb players have sounded during this debacle, i'm not even sure they know the definition of the word "aggressive."
alexthekid
Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V0Fo3yRATY&feature=youtu.be
It might already been posted but pretty funny vid anyway. Might gather some friends here shave our pubes off(in lack of the real thing) and send them a big Christmas present from Sweden. One to the PA's office would be nice to.
It might already been posted but pretty funny vid anyway. Might gather some friends here shave our pubes off(in lack of the real thing) and send them a big Christmas present from Sweden. One to the PA's office would be nice to.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Aggressive probably means they'll actually write the proposal on a piece of paper! Progress!!!
LOL They are already making excuses for nothing happening today.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/20325/letter-sent-by-nhlpa-to-parliament
http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/20325/letter-sent-by-nhlpa-to-parliament
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Oh really? Weren't the players the ones refusing to meet during last season to negotiate? Or am I remembering that wrong?
ZeroGravity
Member
PA might finally be starting to move:
Ok, are they still asking for 57% and for their salaries to be paid for the entire season in a shortened season?
lol
yankeehater
Member
You are right. Fehr needed time to get up to speed so the PA wanted to wait to start negotiations.
ZeroGravity
Member
If they're working off the framework that the owners want, there's at least a path to the deal (eventually). Guess we'll wait and see.
yankeehater
Member
The players are being perfectly reasonable. They are only asking them to basically double their offer, man you guys are uncultured.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
If that's true what delusional world does the NHLPA live in? We may never have hockey again.
Weren't they initially going for something like $600 million?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
This would be a good "meet in the middle" place, although I think the entire Make Whole provision is stupid to begin with.
I think 10am is when they meet again?
ZeroGravity
Member
Well if it's a short meeting one might assume the NHL's response wasn't very positive.
Coldnoodle
Member
Ya'll are just player haters.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
I think the make whole numbers are not that important. If that is the case than NHL would budge. The biggest part is the linkage. If the PA comes with another de-linked proposal or a conditional linkage, then no season.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
‏@jprutherford
Andy McDonald says via text: "We submitted a proposal that addressed the League's concerns and believe it's the basis for an imminent deal."
Let's see how far belief and reality actually is)
Of course you do.
Seriously, though, if they could salvage 60 games out of this season I'd be happy.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Going by "Fehr math" 86 miles of lockout left.‏@jprutherford
Andy McDonald says via text: "We submitted a proposal that addressed the League's concerns and believe it's the basis for an imminent deal."
Let's see how far belief and reality actually is
Yup. 10:00 am in the best coast.
Could also serve to put the blame/pressure on the NHL. As much as it might be a reasonable proposal, it's also propaganda. Same thing the NHL has been doing. So, again, no reason to be optimistic.‏@jprutherford
Andy McDonald says via text: "We submitted a proposal that addressed the League's concerns and believe it's the basis for an imminent deal."
Let's see how far belief and reality actually is
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
I will not be hyped, nope... I can't, nope. Must resist.
Exactly. The only time to get optimistic is when we hear what the other side has to say about any offers.
yankeehater
Member
YES!!! Season back on!
Coldnoodle
Member
Too late!!!
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Brohams, calm down.
You've been through this many times. Hold back that enthusiasm and hope, save yourselfs.
I hate to see you guys hurt over and over again.
Precisely.
The issue will slightly be make whole
That's like 20-25% of salaries in one year
So it's 50/50 for x years
So imagine if steady at 3.3 billion
Year one 2.5 billion
Year two 3.3 billion onwards
Across 5 years = 15.7 billion rev
50/50 is 7.85 billion + $400 million = $8.25 billion
57 is $8.95 billion
That would make this proposal at about 52.5% which is a pretty decent jump from their BS offers
If rev falls, actual % will be higher. If rev goes up then it will get closer to 50/50
It's a decent risk to take imo
That's like 20-25% of salaries in one year
So it's 50/50 for x years
So imagine if steady at 3.3 billion
Year one 2.5 billion
Year two 3.3 billion onwards
Across 5 years = 15.7 billion rev
50/50 is 7.85 billion + $400 million = $8.25 billion
57 is $8.95 billion
That would make this proposal at about 52.5% which is a pretty decent jump from their BS offers
If rev falls, actual % will be higher. If rev goes up then it will get closer to 50/50
It's a decent risk to take imo
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Sweet Jesus if this is true.
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
So, to review, NHLPA is prepared to go to 50-50 immediately, but wants $393M over four years as part of so-called "Make Whole."
This all sounds very reasonable to be honest. The Make Whole to me a fair request since the existing contracts were negotiated in good faith.
If we can actually take this at face-value, that could mean the framework is there. Wonder where they are on contractual issues.
So, to review, NHLPA is prepared to go to 50-50 immediately, but wants $393M over four years as part of so-called "Make Whole."
This all sounds very reasonable to be honest. The Make Whole to me a fair request since the existing contracts were negotiated in good faith.
If we can actually take this at face-value, that could mean the framework is there. Wonder where they are on contractual issues.
I'm liking this...
Crosby and Bieber.
Dig in your heels folks!
Wonder if Mario dropped him off and then picked him up later.
It's a very workable offer if info is correct
This puts nhl and NHLPA difference across the whole term of the CBA less than $200 mil apart
That is pretty huge
Brohams, calm down.
You've been through this many times. Hold back that enthusiasm and hope, save yourselfs.
I hate to see you guys hurt over and over again.
AWESOME back to back posts
They stand to lose so much money if the lockout continues so hopefully this will work.
It really is about a $1.2 million in cap space difference between the two proposals right now
This should lock up economic issues and move right towards contracts