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NHL Lockout With Your Cock Out |OT|
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Freyjadour
Member
Bettman addressing the media.
Doesn't sound as negative as the PA is making it out to be. Surprise surprise.
Doesn't sound as negative as the PA is making it out to be. Surprise surprise.
Fuck the NHLPA and the NHL. They both suck. Maybe not equally. But they are both full of fail.
I'm surprised that the NHL shot down today's offer so abruptly. That will only solidify the NHLPA. They should have at least pretended to consider it a bit more.
C'est la vie.
I'm surprised that the NHL shot down today's offer so abruptly. That will only solidify the NHLPA. They should have at least pretended to consider it a bit more.
C'est la vie.
SpectreFire
Member
I hope they players don't get what they want.
They don't deserve that much money.
They don't deserve that much money.
Freyjadour
Member
Was a Flyers fan.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
It's Tabris isn't it.
Not surprised.
Bruce lol.
That's what I was thinking. :lol
Definitely Yankee's wife. She sounded pretty angry during our Halo-Gaf games the other night.
"The numbers are so close!!!! If you remove everything the NHLPA added"
Did the guy start shouting about the plight of the proletariat?
The Providence Bruins of Boston. I like this.
Now what the fuck do we do, Merguson?
Watch... baseball?
CrazedArabMan
Member
:lol at people getting their hopes up again. Same thing every time, just cancel the season this year, just get rid of any hope anyone has left.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
:lol Exactly what I was thinking but didn't think it was worth the effort to type it. That's like saying Republicans are better because if you remove all the crazy shit they say they're actually very reasonable!
Everything? Try one thing.
The league needs to bargain out one thing (the players money can not decrease clause) to make it a fair deal worth working off of and getting something done.
That's the only part of the PA proposal that is in any way, shape, or form out of line and it seems as if the NHL doesn't care. If they did, they'd negotiate off this proposal. They'd say "we'll work off of this without the de-linkage clause".
Fact of the matter is the NHL (and the PA) both have drop dead dates. Nothing is going to get done until the 11th hour on a season and then we'll either see a deal done or both sides will have pissed the other off enough that they'll cut off the nose to spite the face and flush the whole season.
Leafs seasons end way before April.
Way to run the joke into the ground, asshole. NO FUN ALLOWED.
SpectreFire
Member
Cute. The $2.5 mio a year benchwarmer is complaining.
Lol, just fucking lol.
I'm not totally against the players, I just honestly think that's a hilarious tweet. Man.
Oh oh. He'll probably deny it if it's not on camera. Otherwise the other players will HATE him.
It was only a matter of time....
He's saying what the majority thinks I'm sure. The average player isn't making millions and now their careers could be pretty short, losing a season means losing a big % of career earnings they will never recoup.
Freyjadour
Member
The player tweetshitfest started almost immediately after the meeting concluded. Dat PR.
CrazedArabMan
Member
This whole thing is going to collapse sooner or later.
You guys think so? Have there been several similar comments from players that I've missed? I'd guess the majority blames Bettman right now. They see the NHLPA proposal on the surface and they think the NHL didn't give it a fair shake.
let's see:
- NHLPA liability for escrow is eliminated from the side letter.
- The Playoff Pool is increased per the NHLPA proposal
- Walk away eliminated
- A Club may not buy out a player who has a cap hit of less than $3 M
- The Upper Limit may not fall below 67.25 M in any year of the agreement. This is half way between the 11/12 Upper Limit (64.3 M) and the 12/13 UL (70.2 M).
- In years two through five of this Agreement, the players' share in dollars may not be less than it was in the previous year.
ESPECIALLY THE BOTTOM TWO
why, you ask?
let's say the following events occur:
-Coyotes move to Quebec City- increasing revenue about $50-100 million
-Hamilton and Seattle gain expansion franchises - increases revenue about $300 million
-NYI moves to brooklyn (already occurring) $50 million?
-Leafs/Habs/Oilers/Flames/Canucks/Jets make playoffs, MASSIVELY INCREASING PLAYOFF REVENUE $75-100 million?
-Due to franchise moves, merchandise sales rocket $50 million?
-Before this happens, the canadian dollar moves to $1.25
So now with those franchise moves and the canadian dollar shift...
that increases the Canadian share from $1.35 billion to $2.25 billion!
American share increases from $2 billion to $2.1 billion
so now we are looking at $4.35 billion revenue! $2.175 billion to players! (more with make whole but whatever! $72.5 million cap! wowzers!
now roll on next year.
Every canadian hockey team sucks ass like every other year but this time in a special way... they lose almost every game they can! rats. But on top of this, the canadian dollar plummets down to 72 cents... not even a low for the last decade.
Canadian money coming in drops down 25% but because of the drop off from the canadian dollar, the money from canadian teams goes down to $972 million!
American teams see a rise in $100 million from the added playoff success of other teams. So now it's $3.1 billion in revenue with $2.175 billion to players no matter what!
70% of HRR in just one year.
Unlikely scenario, sure. But the fact is there is NO PROTECTION.
cap should be at $51.7 million but now teams are paying $20 million more than they should.
or how about this? NHL revenues drop 30% out of the gate due to a rather high rate of of NHL fans that suicided themselves after hearing the NHLPA continuously dole out nonsensical explanations for their middle school quality offers. $2.3 billion revenue.
but cap must be 67.25 million! that means out of that $2.3 billion, owners get 4 million each... to pay for rent, leases, power bills, whatever, coaches, gms, equipment, player hotels, players pedicures, whatever.
Those two are absolutely the cornerstone of the NHLPA proposal because it GUARANTEES money. it's essentially designed to fuck the NHL just like they 5% growth measure. Same shit in a different shell.
That's why NHL will have a hard time peeling those nitwits away, they'll just re-disguise their bullshit in attempt to win PR points, making it seem like they're actually "negotiating"
what did NHL say before this meeting? Must bring a straight HRR split, must bring a linked proposal. What did the NHLPA bring? Neither.
These are bullshit PR games. NHL started off with their BS but then immediately went to work. NHLPA has done fuck all.
Dastardly Jerks
Banned
Brohams, calm down.
You've been through this many times. Hold back that enthusiasm and hope, save yourselfs.
I hate to see you guys hurt over and over again.
Went to bed with the same train of thought. Woke up with the same train of thought. Launched tsn.ca - justified.
KernelPanic
Member
Well at least the NHLPA has moved to a similar framework and agreed on a few other things... still progress of sorts ....
This will go down to the wire.
This will go down to the wire.
Dastardly Jerks
Banned
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Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Oh lord this is too good.
Dastardly Jerks
Banned
So hey in good news, I pretty much have all of December and January off because of my work contract finishing this month and moving to Melbourne on Feb 9th.
Figured since I'm going to be able to play games during the 'peak hour' for you guys (midday my time usually) then I'll grab some games you guys are playing and join you all.
Halo 4 is looking like a purchase. Despite my apathy towards the franchise, it's still fun to play MP.
Figured since I'm going to be able to play games during the 'peak hour' for you guys (midday my time usually) then I'll grab some games you guys are playing and join you all.
Halo 4 is looking like a purchase. Despite my apathy towards the franchise, it's still fun to play MP.
3rd best purchased you'll be making all year!