So the city of Detroit may be no more
I wonder if the red wings will be forced to change their names...
You're saying everyone's finally moved away?
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NHL Lockout With Your Cock Out |OT|
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You're saying everyone's finally moved away?
wsoxfan1214
Banned
So the city of Detroit may be no more
I wonder if the red wings will be forced to change their names...
...what?
So the city of Detroit may be no more
I wonder if the red wings will be forced to change their names...
hrtc pls
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
I think what you mean is Detroit's city limits will shrink to account for the loss of population.
Eww that makes me believe that a part of former Detroit would become a part of Canada. Nobody wants that.
That could be it! Not sure where I saw the headline though...
CrazedArabMan
Member
So the city of Detroit may be no more
I wonder if the red wings will be forced to change their names...
Heretic, you are high...
This is the correct response, but this news happened back in 2010-2011 I believe. The city is a mess, but still exists.
hrtc pls
There are other things out there?
AngmarsKing701
Member
Awfully quiet this week. Have they been talking at all or are we just in the final lull before "Fuck it, season's cancelled."
CrazedArabMan
Member
Season's already cancelled for a while, some just don't know it yet.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
It should be. The mediators have to be brought up to speed on the proposals and get a look at the economics, then they begin the mediated negotiations.
Yup. Can't wait for it.
KernelPanic
Member
As long as both sides insist on "my way or the highway" no mediator in the world can resolve this.
Mediator can put pressure on either side through media relations. I hope they're able to be vocal about the discussions and tell the true story about who's doing what.
I was close about the whole Detroit thing though! Stupid sensationalist headlines...
KernelPanic
Member
Matthew Sekeres ‏@mattsekeres
LOL if true.
Modern day Scrooge.
LOL if true.
Modern day Scrooge.
Was just about to post this! Insane!!!
Probably not him... Obama tax and all.
Wow.
When do other owners band together and say: "Hey, fuck these cheap ass hardliners." ?
I'm looking at you Dolan. Pegula's got enough dough and enough desire for hockey too...
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
That's insane. Good for the players for stepping up.
T.M. MacReady
NO ONE DENIES MEMBER
And this is exactly why the information was leaked now whereas no one had bothered for months. So people could make some awkward connection with the lockout.
Sigh.. more stupididty from the PRO NHLPA crowd:
From Hfboards Bruind thread:
"You do realize that the Feds and the State of MA have gift tax laws that set a max amount a gift can be and anything over that is taxed at a higher rate than the normal 5.25%.
Jacobs didn't force them to pay it, the State and Feds did.
Don't be so quick to villify a man who was following the law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_ta..._United_States
500 rings * 7,000 per in taxes equates to 3.5 million"
If he had paid each of them (so they could pay their own taxes), each employee would have to use after tax dollars so it would cost him more like $10,000 per employee for them to get $7000 in post-tax income. So more like $5 mill from his side, and thats on top of buying the rings for everyone in the first place.
Post from Gatormike from HFboards:
"I live in Massachusetts.
I won an iPad at work. HR made me sign a form indicating that the value of the iPad was $525.
Following week, $232.63 was missing from my pay check. Yup, that's an effective tax rate on "gifts" in Massachusetts of 44.5%."
From Hfboards Bruind thread:
"You do realize that the Feds and the State of MA have gift tax laws that set a max amount a gift can be and anything over that is taxed at a higher rate than the normal 5.25%.
Jacobs didn't force them to pay it, the State and Feds did.
Don't be so quick to villify a man who was following the law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_ta..._United_States
500 rings * 7,000 per in taxes equates to 3.5 million"
If he had paid each of them (so they could pay their own taxes), each employee would have to use after tax dollars so it would cost him more like $10,000 per employee for them to get $7000 in post-tax income. So more like $5 mill from his side, and thats on top of buying the rings for everyone in the first place.
Post from Gatormike from HFboards:
"I live in Massachusetts.
I won an iPad at work. HR made me sign a form indicating that the value of the iPad was $525.
Following week, $232.63 was missing from my pay check. Yup, that's an effective tax rate on "gifts" in Massachusetts of 44.5%."
What a piece of shit. It's like when Gautheir told Cammalleri, Gill and Spacek if they wanted their jerseys they had to pay for them. Disgusting pieces of shit.
Edit : Just saw the above post, Gauthier is still a piece of shit ghost, enjoy him Marvie
I don't think anyone is tying the two together.
Never mind. I did just now. Dude is cheap that's why he's spearheading the lockout!
He's worth $2.7 billion
$5 million is 0.19% of his worth. To put that into perspective, to Joe Schmo worth $500,000 that's $950.
Essentially, to Jacobs, in terms of percentage of his wealth it's the cost of a nice TV.
The post I quoted.
But that means what, exactly? He can't cover other people's taxes. He can't lie about the value of the rings
Christmas Bonus? Or, you know, "thank you for keeping everything running smoothly so we could win the Cup" Bonus?
They probably did get their money for that- don't forget they are likely under contracts
But just like players there's probably rules involved around gifts outside agreed pay due to competitive environment
Players aren't allowed any "gifts" outside of their salary, or else they will be breaching strict rules
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
The mediators walked out.
KernelPanic
Member
Wow after 2 days it's all over, NBA went 3 days and football went 17 days with mediation.
Probably went back with something linked and the NHLPA cried
THAT MEANS THE LOCKOUT IS OVER!!! WOOHOO!!!
I edited.
KernelPanic
Member
They only did this so they could decertify.
"Hey your Honor we tried everything ! Even mediation !"
I really wanna see arbitration happen, because I honestly wonder what the outcome would be. I think players would get screwed over financially even more than the league is offering right now.
Too bad arbitration will never happen.
Too bad arbitration will never happen.
Their loss!
NHL will become hilarious when those clowns decertify
They think its in their favor? There is no upside to decertification.
KingHenrik30
Member
Yeah that'll do it I think. Fuck em both.
:lol
Yes, get Fehr out of the picture. Maybe then sth's gonna get done.
Thats the best news I heard all month.
If I were Fehr I wouldn't accept the idea. Based on the stupid comments and reactions by the players in this whole thing, I wouldn't let a bunch of high school graduates discuss the CBA and be in a room alone with a bunch of millionaire/billionaire business owners, not to mention the players are more emotionally invested in this since its their lively hood and their income at stake, so there is a potential of players accepting an idea by the owners based on emotion and quickly getting to playing.
If I were Fehr I wouldn't accept the idea. Based on the stupid comments and reactions by the players in this whole thing, I wouldn't let a bunch of high school graduates discuss the CBA and be in a room alone with a bunch of millionaire/billionaire business owners, not to mention the players are more emotionally invested in this since its their lively hood and their income at stake, so there is a potential of players accepting an idea by the owners based on emotion and quickly getting to playing.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Players vs owners dance-off for the CBA!
Obviously you guys don't appreciate just how strongly guys like Toews and Crosby carry Fehr's ambitions and message. Fehr's absence won't make much difference. Might make the players more defensive, if anything. Also gives the PA an opportunity to take some blame away from Fehr if he's not present and negotiations still fail.