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NHL Lockout With Your Cock Out |OT|
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Dubbedinenglish
Banned
This year or next decade, believe!
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Yeah, I'm sure hiring the only guy involved with the last work stoppages in any major sport had nothing to do with the fact that we still have a work stoppage in a major sport.
This is what the players are getting fed.
Link to his twitter? I want to see the response that he's getting.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
https://twitter.com/PAParenteau
Here's my favorite response:
"Saying such things in the most critical stage is remarkable. How stupid are most NHL players. You should be working at MCD."
The same guy also has "You are so brainwashed by Fehr, it's remarkable."
I find those replies remarkable.
SuperSonic1305
Member
I believe he can block them on his end from appearing on his feed.
This.
AngmarsKing701
Member
This is the response that should be made. Take care of that, Plinko. For NHL-GAF.
The only question left now is whether we'll get to Lockout OT2 before we have an NHL season.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I would but I'm not on Twitter.
AngmarsKing701
Member
Who will tweet us to victory?
It's too long to tweet.
brucewaynegretzky
Member
So there was no NBA lockout last year? Or NHL lockout last time? I'm sure Fehr was secretly working behind the scenes there too...
Shouldn't you be attending a meeting right about now?
Why? He isn't going to wear a fehr mask so he's pretty safe
brucewaynegretzky
Member
I fail to see how wanting a neutral third party in the room as things get finalized is somehow a ridiculous demand...
Dopey and I can disagree all we want about whether or not the players should be forced to pay for a piece of shit team that will never be profitable (and it's a legitimate disagreement), and there's really no way the other side will see the other as reasonable, but a mediator? I just don't see what's so objectionable.
Dopey and I can disagree all we want about whether or not the players should be forced to pay for a piece of shit team that will never be profitable (and it's a legitimate disagreement), and there's really no way the other side will see the other as reasonable, but a mediator? I just don't see what's so objectionable.
brucewaynegretzky
Member
I'm cool with that.
Blocking the doors as well. Deal reached within hours, easily.
its happening!!!
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
No NHL owners in today's negotiating session with NHLPA. Some have gone home, some still around but "owner-player" train left station.
"No NHL owners", "some still around", WHAT ARE YOU SAYING BOB
No NHL owners in today's negotiating session with NHLPA. Some have gone home, some still around but "owner-player" train left station.
"No NHL owners", "some still around", WHAT ARE YOU SAYING BOB
ZeroGravity
Member
The beginning of the end.
Just send me in there with 4 beers and my conversation hat. We'll have a CBA in no time.
Players have to realize:
1. They lost the PR war.
2. The deal proposed is a lot better than losing a complete season salary. Which is what will happen if this doesn't work. Fuck your principles, be a realist. You are never getting a better deal, not next month, not next summer.
Just try to get one or two more year of contract lenght (6-7 instead of 5) and a CBA of 9 years instead of 10 (with an opt out at year 7). And a few more millions in make-whole money.
1. They lost the PR war.
2. The deal proposed is a lot better than losing a complete season salary. Which is what will happen if this doesn't work. Fuck your principles, be a realist. You are never getting a better deal, not next month, not next summer.
Just try to get one or two more year of contract lenght (6-7 instead of 5) and a CBA of 9 years instead of 10 (with an opt out at year 7). And a few more millions in make-whole money.
So blind, Solo. No hockey till 2014. It's what I've been saying all along.
brucewaynegretzky
Member
I think the point is they CAN'T get that at this point. My guess is they're more pissed about the variance lock than the term length. 7 years with no variance lock probably wouldn't be much of an issue.
Freyjadour
Member
It's a stall tactic?
brucewaynegretzky
Member
Stall for what? It doesn't DO anything. What would he be stalling for? There's no magical date where things get better.
This was over the minute they hired Fehr.
Not really, at first it was the most hated man in hockey against some villain from baseball. Unless you're following baseball since 15+ years or you're a Montreal Expos fan, then Fehr was the devil from the start.
The players sure seem to think otherwise. They think the NHL will break after long enough.
Freyjadour
Member
That hasn't stopped the PA from stalling with its bullshit for months.
What good does waiting for moderated meetings do now when it didn't help before? We're in the endgame here.
LOL...that's sad.
NHL players aren't the brightest crayons in the box......
Listen, I'm a fan of a team that's quite a bit more valuable thanks yours will likely ever be.
But when the finances are completely skewed in the direction of overpaying players... And the NHLPA wants a fucking raise? Sorry. But Econ 101 is to get finances in order. If NHL were paying their players what MLB is... The league would be profitable. If structured like MLB, it would be just as fucking boring.
There's no need for a mediator. They are there. Fehr is trying to stall to make it look like he's doing "everything" he can while he chokes any positivity out of negotiation. It's an attempt to get in the middle but he's just going to fuck over core economics like EVERY SINGLE PROPOSAL HE HAS EVER DONE
What this process needs is psychiatrists, not mediators. Anyone who supports fehr or the NHLPA, especially for very non relevant things like "the coyotes don't make money!" Needs to get their heads checked.
Last I checked, there aren't 18 teams named the Phoenix coyotes and last I checked... Their revenue pit is helping the rest of the league.
So 18 teams even after the gift of a lower salary floor due to teams not reaching revenue mins means what? That they should move? Or maybe there is a more sensible Econ structure which doesn't revolve around players having their balls lathered with wet $100 bills?
I hate the coyotes and other poor earning teams than you ever will. But I still maintain common sense when dealing with core issues. There are causes to these things that I am fully aware of that you constantly feign ignorance to.
That's not an acceptable disagreement.
As someone who has defended the players in the past, if talks break off now for good and they go the decertification route they're firmly to blame. The writing is so incredibly clearly on the wall here. This is the best deal they're going to get. If they wait and lose a season they are rightfully going to get fucked.
