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[DopeyFish]

Fuck that.

In theory this allows poor teams to prospect hog

It will allow the 50% threshold to be met too

The one thing I don't get how it will work

If compliance buyouts take off player share, but not cap

What happens when cap exceeds player share?

If every team were to buy out a $7 mil contract, that could be 10% over player share- do they escrow it all back if teams re-sign up to the cap?

That part is so confusing

 

[Smiley90]

How would that work?

"We'll give you Player X, who would already take 1.5 million off our books, for 3 million in cap space"?

Getting closer to the soccer model of being able to buy players.

Imagine being Phoenix: "well, we have no players who wanna play here anyway... so we'll play under the cap anyway... we'll trade 5 mio in cap space to Vancouver for their 1st round pick, and 10 mio to Detroit for Nyquist"

 

[KernelPanic]

I hope there's a limit on how many times you can trade cap space (ie. once).

If Holmgren and Sather get a hold of more cap space .... ugh.

 

[Marvie_3]

Trading cap space is the worst idea ever.

Bigger nets is the worst.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

I hope there's a limit on how many times you can trade cap space (ie. once).

If Holmgren and Sather get a hold of more cap space .... ugh.

It should be a set limit like 5 mil can be traded/ acquired.

Also:
-only for current season,
-can only be traded pre season.

 

[Kuro Madoushi]

Don't worry, theres still a chance we will give other teams another Scott niedermeyer, Roberto luongo or Tyler seguin

Fucking leafs 1st rounders :-(

That's why I hate trading for luongo



Fucking trading Kenny Jonsson and luongo for a retirement run of Clark and mathieu schneider

Wtf leafs

Seguin is a fresh wound, but as for the other stuff....well, Toronto wasn't building through the draft those years, and we have some lousy scouts.

Edit: why the fuck Burke didn't make it conditional first is beyond me....

 

[Curufinwe]

Right now prongers contract is being paid off by insurance, not the team

So buying out pronger would be bad for both pronger and team

This Pronger talk is depressing. He's only 38 while Lidstrom played at a high level till he was 42.

 

[Kuro Madoushi]

This Pronger talk is depressing. He's only 38 while Lidstrom played at a high level till he was 42.

They play completely different styles of game...

 

[Curufinwe]

I don't know about completely different, and the point is that Pronger's career was ended by an unlucky stick to the eye, not from anything age-related.

 

[KernelPanic]

Pronger made a career out of injuring other players and giving them concussions.

His career ending due to a concussion is poetic justice.

 

[Plinko]

Bigger nets is the worst.

Ha--I originally had "Even worse than bigger nets" in my post but deleted it. Should have gone ahead.

As for the cap space idea, I can't wait for the loophole to be found and overused for years until the next CBA!

 

[yankeehater]

If the only way for hockey to come back is with teams being allowed to trade cap space, then I hope it doesnt come back.

 

[Smiley90]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-p...ll-hockey-league-shocking-145022576--nhl.html

not sure this was posted. Crosby dressed up as a ball hockey goalie and played a few amateur games, without taking off his mask and telling people who he was. Fun times.

 

[DopeyFish]

I don't know about completely different, and the point is that Pronger's career was ended by an unlucky stick to the eye, not from anything age-related.

Such a fluke incident

His eye though is fine, no? It's just the follow through gave him a bad concussion

 

[kassatsu]

I have hope in TEAM NOPE

 

[DopeyFish]

NHL and NHLPA holding conf call tomorrow (prob setting agenda) and intend to meet on sunday

 

[KernelPanic]

NHL and NHLPA holding conf call tomorrow (prob setting agenda) and intend to meet on sunday

Bettman will see the NHLPA counteroffer, get all pissed and storm out. He'll make a better offer 3 weeks later.

This is beyond silly now.

 

[DopeyFish]

Bettman will see the NHLPA counteroffer, get all pissed and storm out. He'll make a better offer 3 weeks later.

This is beyond silly now.

All NHLPA offers have been jokes so far

When you look at it from a distance, it looked fine... Until you looked closer and it's like "WTF are they trying to pull"

 

[Quick]

The NHL and the PA should be at each side of the same room, with podiums. Anytime one side says anything, the other interjects. Media stays in the middle.

 

[Freyjadour]

Bettman will see the NHLPA counteroffer, get all pissed and storm out. He'll make a better offer 3 weeks later.

This is beyond silly now.

In less than 3 weeks this will all be over one way or another.

Still, "better" is relative considering that starting in late December or late January makes little difference to the league as long as it gets 48 games in. It's the players who hurt in that scenario with two missed pay periods. But at least they get some portion of the scraps that were so important to them.

 

[KingHenrik30]

I hope there's a limit on how many times you can trade cap space (ie. once).

If Holmgren and Sather get a hold of more cap space .... ugh.

Yeah god forbid Sather has more cap space to make more awesome trades....

 

[Cake Boss]

Talk within NHL of flipping Winnipeg and Columbus for this year only pending future realignment...

Non-playoff team for non-playoff team if CBJ and Jets switch conferences for this season.

Hahah Howsen get ready to watch Nash fuck up your team 4 times a season.

 

[Quick]

Hahah Howsen get ready to watch Nash fuck up your team 4 times a season.

sup howsn

nash pls

 

[Socreges]

Hahah Howsen get ready to watch Nash fuck up your team 4 times a season.

Already debunked

lol twitter. You Hopers must just be a jumble of emotions every day.

 

[Heretic]

Already debunked

lol twitter. You Hopers must just be a jumble of emotions every day.

Nothing but HOPE, baby!!!

Search your feelings, Socreges. You're there standing right next to me!

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

I wonder if including all non-playoff teams in the draft lottery will encourage tanking. Would an underachieving team want to scrape into the playoffs on the last day of the season only to meet the President's Trophy winner in the first round, or just lose and have a chance (albeit a slim one) at a top-5 pick?

 

[BigJonsson]

I wonder if including all non-playoff teams in the draft lottery will encourage tanking. Would an underachieving team want to scrape into the playoffs on the last day of the season only to meet the President's Trophy winner in the first round, or just lose and have a chance (albeit a slim one) at a top-5 pick?

Depends on the market, fan loyalty would be huge

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

Hahah Howsen get ready to watch Nash fuck up your team 4 times a season.

Wait does that mean C-bus would be in the SE division? Stupid choice, Nashville and WPG make the most sense for that.

 

[Socreges]

Search your feelings, Socreges. You're there standing right next to me!

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

At the Jobing.com arena?

 

[Solo]

Again?

 

[Heretic]

Don't lie!

 

[CrazedArabMan]

Nothing but HOPE, baby!!!

Search your feelings, Socreges. You're there standing right next to me!

I hate your hope

 

[Fei]

Rochester is playing in Buffalo tonight. Sold out. I should have gone. :\

And is a Florida fan allowed to make fun of other franchises for a lack of fan support?

Edit: If there's any doubt Sabres fans will come crawling back the minute the lockout ends, here's the scene tonight:

 

[Red_Man]

"@CraigCustance: Interesting part of NHL offer (obtained by @Real_ESPNLeBrun) is draft lottery in which all non-playoff teams have crack at No. 1 pick."


:OOOO

I LIKE DIS!!

I like this a lot fuck teams like Edmonton.

Why do Flyer fans think they'll use the Amnesty on Bryz? Then what? Going to use Leighton? :lol that or hope Bryz re-signs for less which why the fuck would he do that.

 

[BigJonsson]

I doubt you can sign players you amnesty, just like you can't sign players after you regular buy them out

 

[yankeehater]

I like this a lot fuck teams like Edmonton.

Why do Flyer fans think they'll use the Amnesty on Bryz? Then what? Going to use Leighton? :lol that or hope Bryz re-signs for less which why the fuck would he do that.

No way would they amnesty Bryz. They have no other option.

 

[KernelPanic]

Rob Rossi ‏@RobRossi_Trib
Sense from some conversations: #NHL folks really believe new offer basis for a deal. #NHLPA players not sold on many parts of proposal.

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle
General consensus from players on PA call: League's movement wasn't all that much. It's enough to restart talks, however.

LOL Nope Strikes again.

 

[Socreges]

Don't lie!

It's all part of the plan. It's obvious they're taking this to the last minute.

 

[Red_Man]

It's all part of the plan. It's obvious they're taking this to the last minute.

 

[Cake Boss]

Dreger joined Team Hope, Nope is fucked.

 

[Red_Man]

PK Subban just said Rielly has been Canada's best D in the WJ, don't cross the streams Subban! (Glad we're on the same page)

 

[KingHenrik30]

And is a Florida fan allowed to make fun of other franchises for a lack of fan support?

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Oh my lord no

 

[Quick]

PK Subban just said Rielly has been Canada's best D in the WJ, don't cross the streams Subban! (Glad we're on the same page)

Next thing you know, Habs and Leafs fans are hanging out together, then gay marriage, then adoption by same-sex couples.

Spoiler

PK is cool.

 

[Solo]

Next thing you know, Habs and Leafs fans are hanging out together, then gay marriage, then adoption by same-sex couples.

Spoiler

PK is cool.

So......Forza cube and Manics, you mean?

 

[Row]

Rob Rossi ‏@RobRossi_Trib
Sense from some conversations: #NHL folks really believe new offer basis for a deal. #NHLPA players not sold on many parts of proposal.

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle
General consensus from players on PA call: League's movement wasn't all that much. It's enough to restart talks, however.

LOL Nope Strikes again.

Of course, all the PA really cares about is getting their ~55%+

 

[Quick]

Speaking of Cube, did the mods finally realize he's an alt, or was he just trolling hard again?

 

[MutFox]

Hope is looking good!
Except to pessimists...

 

[Red_Man]

Under the circumstances, some truly amazing ratings for CAN-GER game on TSN on Boxing Day (Dec. 26)

The most incredible, IMO,was an average of 372,000 viewers for the live 4:30 am ET start, peaking at 575,000. Middle of the night across CAB

We've had some NHL games on TSN that average in the same vicinity as what we had for the CAN-GER game.

Not surprising at all, every hockey fan I know has been up for all of Canada's games thus far.

God the Bulldogs blow, blew a 2-0 lead last weekend, and just blew a 3-0 lead tonight. Tinordi looks quite good though.

 

[Socreges]

Speaking of Cube, did the mods finally realize he's an alt, or was he just trolling hard again?

I think only bish would know and I doubt he'd care. "cube" hasn't done anything wrong. He's the most disciplined alt yet.