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NHL Lockout With Your Cock Out |OT|
- Thread starter Marvie_3
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...with-horses-and-bayonets-quip/article4630429/
Watch for yourself, and don't believe everything your mom prattles at you.
Arab's mom is Sean Hannity?
at this point I hope he helps them mediate their fists up their own asses.
KernelPanic
Member
Coldnoodle
Member
I believe in Fehrness.
If they want to bring in a mediator, they'll first fight for 1 month about WHO would be the mediator...
Reminds me of FUBAR
My solution:
All current contracts get an "on-paper" rollback for cap calculations only. Not a single dollar of any of the current contracts should be given up. The owners offered those contracts and they should honor them.
CBA changes so that HRR is split "50/50" and this year's cap is reduced to $59.9 million accordingly. Current contracts fit into the cap through an artificial reduction of their cap hits but all future contracts will have to comply with the new cap. It technically won't be a real 50/50 split until today's longest contract expires (Weber?), but all new contracts will be cheaper as they'll have to fit in the new reduced cap.
-3-year ELCs
-8 years of service or 28 years old to be a free agent
-Contract length, don't care, so long as salary fluctuations are minimized from year-to-year and cap hit stays on books no matter when the player retires.
-Everything else, who cares.
All current contracts get an "on-paper" rollback for cap calculations only. Not a single dollar of any of the current contracts should be given up. The owners offered those contracts and they should honor them.
CBA changes so that HRR is split "50/50" and this year's cap is reduced to $59.9 million accordingly. Current contracts fit into the cap through an artificial reduction of their cap hits but all future contracts will have to comply with the new cap. It technically won't be a real 50/50 split until today's longest contract expires (Weber?), but all new contracts will be cheaper as they'll have to fit in the new reduced cap.
-3-year ELCs
-8 years of service or 28 years old to be a free agent
-Contract length, don't care, so long as salary fluctuations are minimized from year-to-year and cap hit stays on books no matter when the player retires.
-Everything else, who cares.
brucewaynegretzky
Member
This will likely cost the owners more... the cap hit goes down then and that means rich teams will have more to spend and drive up the market.
They won't have more to spend if the overall salary cap also goes down. And especially if front-loaded contracts become eliminated.
CrazedArabMan
Member
Actually I should have worded that better, I thought his post was off of the posts I had read in the poligaf thread of bayonets not being used anymore (I mostly browsed through the thread and saw a few of those), thus I gave an example that they are still used. So I may have not interpreted it right. Also I have my own opinions sir based off of what I believe, so sorry to disappoint you that I'm not the super far-right wing stereotypical radical that GAF seems to make most conservatives out to be.
I don't particularly care for Hannity at all or Beck.
Eh, now I have said way too much politically, I can't stand politics these days or political talk, ugh I'm done...
This, I think it is pretty much a forgone conclusion that we are not going to have a season, just put it out of its misery already.
SpectreFire
Member
Passittobullis chornicles the European adventures of Canuck's favourite All-Star club-creeper Dale Weise.
http://vansunsportsblogs.com/2012/1...eo/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
http://vansunsportsblogs.com/2012/1...eo/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
Once I saw hockey and beer, I immediately went to go see if there was leafs beefs videos on the lockout
Then I realized that was the leafs beefs video on the lockout
(I do recommend to watch those leafs beefs - they crack me up)
Dastardly Jerks
Banned
Souray took Fowler to Texas to learn how to beastmode. Good on him.
Yep.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Same and you know what? Both sides are not even that far apart. Bettman and the owners blinked submitted their "doable" deal. Fehr could've come back with counter near it and hammered a deal. Fehr could still do his victory cryp-walk and this shit would be over. Naw both sides must have the larger peen or no season.
SpectreFire
Member
So basically the Flames would see no change in talent.
KingHenrik30
Member
Can somebody give me a heads up on how to do an online fantasy draft in NHL 13?
Unfortunately you can't You can choose to randomize the rosters or keep them current.
The Leafs will still find a way to miss it.
Dastardly Jerks
Banned
THEY'RE (Owners + NHLPA) HAVING A MEETING TOMORROW
Fucking get it done you pack of losers.
Fucking get it done you pack of losers.
Link?
And since tomorrow for you is next Monday in the normal part of the world, that would mean the 82-game schedule is lost.
AngmarsKing701
Member
I do think the proposals that came from both sides showed some willingness to give from previous proposals. I think the owners gave a little more or the players still want to retain a little more... either way, there's at least enough there that I think they should be able to pound something out.
Even if they pound it out over the next 2-3 weeks, they could shorten the season to 65 games or so.
But for God's sakes, get it done already. Losing an entire season to this bullshit, after doing so just eight years ago, is beyond reprehensible.
Dastardly Jerks
Banned
Link?
And since tomorrow for you is next Monday in the normal part of the world, that would mean the 82-game schedule is lost.
I'm from the future, and here there is nothing but barren wastelands and zero hockey.
This is also why my Mondays suck, you guys are still sundaying and there's no chance of news.
KernelPanic
Member
John Shannon ‏@JSportsnet
The NHLPA has informed the media they will meet the League at any time,with NO pre-conditions...and they have told the NHL the same.
Renaud P Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS
Bill Daly:"they suggested they were willing to meet. But they also told us they weren't interested in the proposal made last Tuesday and that they weren't prepared to make their own proposal. Not sure what we would be meeting about ?"
Doesn't look good at all
The NHLPA has informed the media they will meet the League at any time,with NO pre-conditions...and they have told the NHL the same.
Renaud P Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS
Bill Daly:"they suggested they were willing to meet. But they also told us they weren't interested in the proposal made last Tuesday and that they weren't prepared to make their own proposal. Not sure what we would be meeting about ?"
Doesn't look good at all
So... there isn't going to be a meeting tomorrow? Why would you toy with us like that?
Also, I don't get the quote from Daly. He's saying that there'd be nothing to meet about if the NHLPA isn't going to give another proposal?
[edit] just saw Kernel's post.
So neither is willing to budge. Awesome.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
This has to be the worst run union in pro-sports, ever. How the fuck do you not have an offer of your own or want to use the most recent as a framework? How? I can't believe how incompetent they are.
The NHLPA probably feels that it's the owners' turn to table a proposal.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
If those tweets are correct, I wouldn't say either... If NHLPA keeps rejecting AND won't make counter proposals there's not much you can do besides argue with yourself.
but... weren't the owners the ones that initiated the last round? You can't be like "we made up 3 counter proposals in 5minutes that we didn't run the numbers for, now it's their turn again!" wat.
Tell that to Fehr.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
The PA thinks this is like a shootout.. Even if you trip over the puck in center ice, it still counts.
This has got to be one of the best analogies of this whole debacle so far.
KingHenrik30
Member
Yeah found that out unfortunately. Seems like a giant ball drop to me.
We will stand here in solemn solidarity behind our Dear Leader, Donald Fehr.
NFLPA is the worst. No security for the average player.
KernelPanic
Member
Fehr is going for a record see how many times you can present the same offer before anyone notices.
As a bonus he will come up with a new proposal in the elevator on the way to the meeting but say he "hasn't run the numbers yet"
Fehr is like Goodenow.
"They'll crack any minute now !"
A year passes.
"I can feel it ! We're so close I can feel Bettman is about to crack"