T.M. MacReady
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Well, they cant get decent seats at their own arena thanks to all the suits and tourists, so it makes sense for them to travel.
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Well, they cant get decent seats at their own arena thanks to all the suits and tourists, so it makes sense for them to travel.
While that's certainly not true, we're not even talking about "hockey fans". They'd be bringing in new people who would identify with, or be drawn to, the 'Brooklyn' name.
T.M. MacReady
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You're right, better change to the Bronx Yankees and the New Jersey Jets/Giants while we're at it.
C'mon, man.
Keeping it as New York targets a wider range of people instead of the smaller number that would identify themselves with Brooklyn.
KingHenrik30
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Yet the nets are reaping the benefits of doing so, at least from a merchandise point of view. I can't walk 2 blocks without seeing someone wearing Brooklyn nets gear.
KingHenrik30
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No I think it's more that they're are exponentially more Rangers fans in all parts of NY than Islanders...
Those suits allow for consistent sellouts at one of the highest priced tickets in the league. That might have something to do with it.
T.M. MacReady
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More dislocated Ranger fans who cant get affordable seats at their own arena, yes. Glad we see eye to eye on this issue.
They're the first pro sports team to be based in Brooklyn since the Dodgers and basketball is more popular than hockey.
Yeah but Brooklyn has always considered itself a different entity. Now that it's not a complete shithole Brooklyn pride is at it's highest.
Not to mention that if Brooklyn was it's own city it'd be in the top 5 largest cities in the US
Seriously, the only Rangers fan I know that isn't from NJ and LI is probably KingHenrik
T.M. MacReady
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Basketball is much more popular than the NHL, as much as that makes me sad to say. The market for NBA gear is also way more in line with the "Brooklyn" image, as seen in the ridiculous amount of Jay-Z marketing by the Nets. Jay owns 1/15th of 1% of the team.
Hockey is a more niche sport in this country that has fans who care more about tradition than new merchandise.
Not so sure that 'New York Islanders' had much caché around the state, not to mention that few Islanders fans will stop identifying with the franchise.
What... is this? Those are three of the most popular franchises in all North American sports. The Islanders are... the Islanders.
KingHenrik30
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Again, wears suits = not a fan of hockey?
Only poor white trash are allowed to like hockey?
Is this what Isles fans have to hold onto? Yikes, things are more dire than I thought.
You're looking at this like a Canadian. New York Islanders doesn't have much cache around the state because hockey doesn't have much cache. Hockey in the Tri-State area is passionate but very niche.
KingHenrik30
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Whatever helps you sleep at night
People are jerking off to Brooklyn right now. They are putting it in front of everything now. I'm not saying the ilses should change their name, I'm of the opposite opinion. I'm just saying that putting "Brooklyn" in front of something is going to get it sold all over the country.
And everybody at Knicks courtside seats are diehards too.
That's not to say none of the suits are Rangers fans but as someone who has been lower level for a Devils-Rangers game at MSG they sure don't sound like they give a fuck.
HadesGigas
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The fact that it's true? I bet. Rangers fans are mostly from the burbs.
T.M. MacReady
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Well said. Isles fan base is small, but extremely loyal. if they changed the name, hockey fans would be angry all around the Tri-State area would be pissed.
Well, we hold on to that and the laughable contracts you guys tend to give to overpriced forwards with careers on the decline. Incidentally, is Nash's injury all better yet?
KernelPanic
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Giant facepalm
KingHenrik30
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Coming from a true unbiased source. But whatever, I'm sure it's better than the empty seats at the rock who don't look like they give a fuck.
Rangers fans are mostly from every part of the 5 boroughs, westchester, long island....
Saying people in manhattan arent rangers fans is assinine.
If there is one team that can't bust on the Rangers for giving out bad contracts it's the islanders. Even with the bad contracts we've been more succesful than you over the last 20+ years, and that's not saying much. Nash is fine, bone bruise. He's back playing for Davos.
I'm not sure how you're providing any new information here. Does that contradict what I'm saying?
This sounds like KingHenrik and his 'YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND NEW YORK' rant.
So the extremely loyal fans would.... stop following the team? Huh?
Fuck Fehr.
What? Don't you mean Bill Gates?
Oh come on.
I'm saying the name is nowhere near the issue
Fuck this gay earth.
TemplaerDude
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Fucking Fehr is probably one of the dumbest mother fuckers I have ever seen.
Uhh... don't I remember that the deal they eventually accepted was worse than what was originally offered? "Worse" being relative considering how much more the players have made since then...
edit: in either case, fuck Fehr, cancel the season, let me move on in peace.
T.M. MacReady
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Hey, hey! That DiPietro contract has plenty of years left for him to redeem himself!
/sarcasm
but at least its a minor cap hit for the length of it, unlike the shitty Yashin deal. It can be argued that we learned a lot from our mistakes since Wang forced Snow to give DP that contract though. Good, fair deals in place for Tavares, Moulson, Grabner, Hamonic, and Streit.
And of course I'm just trolling you for fun, also.
No, they'd be angry and want the team to stay true to its roots. How angry would you be if the Canucks moved to a new arena over in the New Westminster area and chose to alter the teams name and/or logo to sell merch to new prospective fans in the area? You don't give Ny hockey fans or the Islanders franchise enough credit.
I'm not saying it's an issue. I was just saying that changing it to Brooklyn plus cool name/logo would be significant in attracting new fans and improving merchandise sales. I'm surprised that they didn't take the opportunity, but I can totally understand (and agree with) the sentiment of retaining the name/logo because of the history/intangibles.
You're not even replying to what I'm saying, dude.
If only the players were smart enough to realize how full of shit Fehr is....
T.M. MacReady
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Ah, makes a lot more sense having read your post that came right after mine, nvm.
Yeah, wasn't meaning to insult the Islanders or their fans. It's peace time.
The best way to go about it would be keeping the name and logo. The Nets are moving to Brooklyn as the bastard child of New York-area sports. They were in New Jersey for 35 years with a minute amount of success which dissipated into new ownership and a plan to move. They're also giving a city (Most Brooklyn born people I know consider Brooklyn it's own city) it's first franchise since 1957. Yet, there's nothing glorious about the history of the New Jersey Nets.
The Islanders on the other hand have as many Stanley cups since 1972 as the Rangers have had since 1926. Despite Nassau Coliseum being a complete shithole whenever I went there I loved seeing all the banners hung up from their past.
Dubbedinenglish
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Let them know in 20 years they'll get the best deal imaginable. Fire the entire PA and bring in scabs. They ae so damn close but Fehr wants to hold out indefinitely. Fuck them all.
I can see it now
Winter 2013 - a small group of players and Fehr are locked in a room with a phone on the table, now looking tired and unkempt.
Fehr: We almost have them where we want them fellas! I can feel them breaking!
(Iginla antsy, starts to reach for the phone- Fehr slaps him away as crosby begins to tear up.
Fehr: Don't you see our great victory is almost at hand! We'll have everything EVERYTHING!" (laughs maniacally as the players huddle and slowly move away form Fehr and his now obvious erection)
Iginila begins to remember a conversation he had with a former MLB player.
MLB player: If you're looking for a new PA man don't be looking for that Donald Fehr o'er there. The person you hire ain't the person you get.
Iginla: but you think he'll come out of retirement?
MLB player: dammit Iginla! sometimes, retirement is better
YAY MORE GOOD NEWS
BigJonsson
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This is all cause HBO was going to do a show on the Leafs 
T.M. MacReady
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Possibly the post before that?
Acid!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There's a gif with that exact statement used on gaf. I'm sure he was referring to that.
There's a gif with that exact statement used on gaf. I'm sure he was referring to that.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I wonder if the Isles will get the Jay-Z makeover ala the Nets:
Already confirmed not to happen, thankfully.
Those logos (and the Nets new logo) are awful.