I think they're both gone (Carlyle and Nonis). Tim Leiweke has been in the background and has done nothing with the Leafs so far. I think he'll be looking to "make his mark" and bring in his own guys as GM/coach.
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I think they're both gone (Carlyle and Nonis). Tim Leiweke has been in the background and has done nothing with the Leafs so far. I think he'll be looking to "make his mark" and bring in his own guys as GM/coach.
Highly disagree. Nonis is his guy. Remember the five-year extension?
EDIT: Well, two years added to a current contract.
Well most players would expect it to be cleared the first chance he gets, not hold on to it and stare at imaginary butterflies flying around his head like an idiot. Gee its not as if the blues werent pressuring every player every second of that period. He cant shoot it at the boards and out? And who cares if Kulemin is in the way? Its not like its stopped him from blasting pucks at his own players before. And knowing his aim, he should have aimed for Kulemin, he would have missed and hit the boards.
bonesmccoy
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I hope so, but I'm not so sure. The fans seem to buy into the thoughtless, Friedman-eseque lines about how they just need to acquire Player Type X and get rid of Player Type Y and that will fix everything.
Then you have the 'new' narrative coming from the team and the official media mouthpieces seems to have drifted back to something along the lines of "This is where we expected to be, battling for a playoff spot". Of course, that's complete BS - they didn't make the changes/upgrades in the Summer and expect the team to be sitting 10th and hoping to rely on other team's being as shit as them to make the playoffs.
But yea, I thought Carlyle should have been let go ages ago, and I hope for our sake he is.
PS - I think these 2 paras from Nick Cotsonika are pretty accurate:
Yahoo! Sports said:
And sammich!
I think Merguson was just pointing out how completely lost everyone is out there. No one knows what to do or how to do it on that team. #RandysWay
How could you have let him go "ages ago"? This is his first full 82 game season. His first. He got the team to the playoffs in the shortened season so your'e not going to can him for that. How dysfunctional does the team look to fire a coach before even going through one complete season?
Forgot about that. Maybe Nonis is safe.
Lone_Prodigy
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If the Leafs slump next midseason they'll fire Carlyle.
Burrows in tonight, will probably tape his hand to his stick.
Possible lines:
Burrows-Matthias-Daniel
Higgins-Kesler-Jensen
Booth-Richardson-Kassian
Sestito-Dalpe-Hansen
Schroeder
Burrows in tonight, will probably tape his hand to his stick.
Possible lines:
Burrows-Matthias-Daniel
Higgins-Kesler-Jensen
Booth-Richardson-Kassian
Sestito-Dalpe-Hansen
Schroeder
bonesmccoy
Banned
I've been on the fire Carlyle band wagon from the start.
Who cares if he's had two truncated seasons and 'only' 90% of this one: The team plays worse under him than it did under Wilson.
Listen to what he says about his attempts to get the team to play better - he's either lost the locker room completely or has no idea how to adjust his systems to fir the roster.
It doesn't matter if you've been on the fire bandwagon, he was getting results, they made the playoffs last year and were in a playoff spot all season this year until the last week. Whether it's pretty or ugly the bottom line was wins.
You could say the team was playing better under Wilson, but they didn't get the job done, were the worst PK team in the league years running, and coined the 18-wheeler phrase. Neither coach has gotten the team to play defense, so where's the difference? In the end it comes down to the players and getting the job done.
Kuro Madoushi
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Seems weird they played great defense last season. Might be other teams adjusted.
Carlyle is definitely in 18 wheeler range I'd say.
I think he is a part of it; the problem is that the team and players need to suit each other and I never thought we had the players to win the cup but definitely compete a lot harder than they have been
Wilson doesn't factor into the equation any longer. What you're looking at is a coach who brought the team into the second season, played decently in defeat, and then regressed into the following season.
Regressed is also putting it lightly, as likely he has choked away a decent sized playoff birth. Without the birth, he is likely in the hot seat.
Yeah I don't know why people are bringing up Wilson, the team was horrible under him, sure the talent level of the roster wasn't as good either, and Kessel wasn't as good as he is now, but that's over and done with.
Last year the team's PK was 2nd in the league, this year it's near the bottom, people say it was all goaltending, but it's a combination of factors not just the goalies.
Carlyle is definitely gone after this disaster, I think that much we can agree with.
This is hilarious... however, Matthias has looked competent in every role he's been thrown in thus far. Dude wins faceoffs, checks hard and throws the body all over the ice. Great third line C for 1.75M next year.
FUBAR McDangles
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Canucks typically aren't that great at the Xcel so hopefully the Wild can come out of tonight with a W.
This team man lol. You have to find other interests in life, cause if you take hockey too seriously like some of those callers on Leafs talk, you'll end up killing someone eventually. Leafs treat their fanbase like shit for their entire lives, and then you die.
U wot m8
I'll cut ur fukkn head off bro leafs r best n my hobbies are all leafs related ey
Cunt
Lone_Prodigy
Member
I thought it was just Luongo, but I still hope the Wild light us up. Gotta get that playoff percentage to zero.
April OT Canada's playoff hopes lie with a team from separatist Quebec.
April Reimer OT she's just okay
bonesmccoy
Banned
Well, you'd asked how I could have seen him let go ages ago. Yes, obviously wins matter - but how you are getting those wins is extremely important as well. The analytics (even the traditional stats) have consistently shown that the team was winning despite its poor performance. I think a GM could have looked at that, realized that it wasn't going to last, and employed a bit of foresight.
The Leafs are completely flaming out and I can't even enjoy it because my team is even worse. No justice
I can!
But I don't.
Detroit's going to the SCF, brahs
Why you gotta hate?
To be fair, you guys aren't on a drastically different plateau for the moment.
You're right, over the course of the season there isn't much to separate the teams. This huge losing streak at the worst possible time is so fun to witness though.
When the Leafs are playing well you'd think they were Stanley Cup favourites based on the general reaction of everyone around here, and when things aren't going so well they go just as far in the opposite direction.
I didn't realize they got so decked out in gear, that's crazy and hilarious.....:lol @ "It looks like the North has been lost this day"
They are just a popular location. Much like the Mets are around here in baseball. Ton of passionate fans, hilarious results, self-deprecation everywhere.
bonesmccoy
Banned
#FireTherrien
Montreal and Toronto were pretty much at the same spot in the season the night of that game we came back against Ottawa and ever since then we've gone up, and they've gone downwards.
This. Too bad it looks like at least one of them will make.
On the topic of Leafs fans, I fit that mold for most of my life. Like I always say, it's IMPOSSIBLE for me to be drastically upset at local teams because it just comes across as foolish. Every team I grew up with that had no chance of winning has now won. All I can do is follow the teams and go along for the ride for the time being.
Hab fans are somewhere in that opposite category. You guys are the Yankees of the sport. Even with the drought, no matter what we accomplish, it's always going to pale in the overall comparison.
Hab fans are somewhere in that opposite category. You guys are the Yankees of the sport. Even with the drought, no matter what we accomplish, it's always going to pale in the overall comparison.
This means the Caps would be in, so yes, I heartily agree.
SmackCrackleNPop
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Hoping Anaheim does not lose 7-2 to the Flames again
:lol
Thanks for your support man.
lol
Kuro has yelled at me before because he wants me to be really upset about these teams.
I just can't when I know they aren't even a guaranteed playoff team.
bonesmccoy
Banned
Hey now, they can't shit on Reimer because he didn't play, and they can't shit on Bernier because he's the Ice Jesus (even though he left in 3 awful goals last night).
For some reason they can't shit on Carlyle, because ... ? He might be joining them as an analyst soon?
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