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NHL March 2016 |OT| It's not tanking, it's losing with style

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eyeless

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Kuro Madoushi

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A rare Sunday game for the Leafs and that was only our second win on a back to back all season. Now we just need to make sure the Pens get in and then I can cheer for Panthers/Bolts and Sharks/Ducks.
 
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SmackCrackleNPop

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Supposedly Babcock didn't play him much and when Commodore thought of leaving, Babcock convinced him to stay, making promises of playing time but it never changed.
 
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Socreges

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bonesmccoy said:
*checks hockeydb*

Damn, he played less than 20 games for the Red Wings. Lol, that's quite a grudge for a fringe NHLer to harbour for 5 years.
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Well:
"They offered me a one-year deal worth one million. My gut was screaming: “Don't take it, you've got one chance, if it doesn't go well, you're done in the NHL!”
“I told my agent: ‘I don't want to play in Detroit for Mike Babcock, I don't trust him. Call him back and tell him thank you, we'll get back to you.’
"My agent then told me the GM put a 15-minute time limit on the offer. I needed to make up my mind in 15 minutes or he was gonna pull the offer off the table. This was July 1st, free agency had just started 10 minutes prior. I called the GM and told him: ‘Ken, Mike Commodore here, I like you, you're a good guy. Is it you who wants me or the coach?’ Ken Holland said that he wanted me and so did Babcock. So I told him that I would love to play for Ken, and I would love to play for the red wings, but that I didn't trust the coach from previous experience. So I called the coach, by now I had 10 minutes left.
"I called him: ‘Babs, Mike Commodore here. Please be honest with me, do you want me on your hockey team or not?’ He said he did. I wanted to know if I’d get an opportunity. I told him I am not looking for anything special, but that I needed to know if I was gonna get a fair shot and a chance to play. He said ‘I want you on my team. You will get a fair chance. We need someone physical on the back end with a right shot. I want you. You will play.’
“I hung up the phone, five minutes left. My gut screamed ‘Say No!’ This coach screwed me over nine years ago. He buried me in the paper after I had a good camp in Anaheim. He buried me so I would look bad so he could then play his boy from juniors who was an undrafted rookie at camp that year ... Kurt Sauer. Six years later when I finally had a chance to take a shot back at him publicly I did so in the paper when I was in Columbus. But then I started to think about Detroit, a good team, always makes the playoffs, get to play with great players, and about maybe getting the opportunity. So I took Mike Babcock's word and I signed the contract, thirty minutes into free agency. I signed the [expletive] contract faster than when I was a ‘hot commodity’ four years earlier. I was one of the first players gone that year in free agency. Off the board July 1st.
“I went to camp in Detroit, and got scratched out. I did injure my knee a bit so I missed couple of days in camp and the first four games. I got back as if it was nothing major. I came back, and the team won its first five games. I got scratched, but okay, the team was winning. We lost seven in a row, then I wasn’t even close to playing. Scratch, scratch.
“Finally, it was mid-November, Ian White got a puck to the face and was going to miss a week, we went on a road trip. A four-game road trip, and I thought to myself that this was my chance. I played three games, no two games, I think, three minutes a night… The only time I touched the ice was when the fourth line was on, and the faceoff was in the neutral zone. I was opening the doors for Lidström, that’s all I was doing, being a cheerleader.
“Bab then met with me, said he was calling up guys from minors, and scratched me until Christmas. Then the GM forced the coach to play me; I played fifteen games, I fought, I played the best I could with the ice time I was getting. And then I got traded (to Tampa) because Ken Holland felt bad.
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SmackCrackleNPop

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Ugh, now I'm reminded when Babcock coached Anaheim and had a weird fixation with Kurt Sauer. He was overused for what his skills and experience were at the time.
 
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Unhandled Exception

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I mean

I'll say the same shit I said re: Winnipeg locking up Byfuglien long term.

Keeps Babcock away from a team with any potential to win. So yes, we all thank you.

And in the meantime, he can play favorites and build resentment in the locker room!

You know I love most of LeafsGAF
 
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Foggy

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Hopefully Prout gets suspended for the rest of the year for that sucker punch on Kucherov. Anything to force Jarmo to just let him go.
 
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bonesmccoy

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Socreges said:
Well:
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Thanks for digging that up, Soc, I had no idea. That's some highly concentrated Flavacol salt.

Commodore was basically done as an NHLer when be signed with Detroit (as evidenced by his salary and games played for both Tampa and Detroit), yet he seems to think he deserved to play a larger role. Sad!

Guys his of age and ability usually end up with fewer games played and reduced TOI, and often lose their places to prospects. Which itself is as much if not more a GM's decision, yet Commodore seems to find zero fault with Holland. What a dummy!
 
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yyzjohn

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Based on that legendary 13 game post Red Wings career that Commodore had, I can see what a huge mistake Babcock made in not playing that all-star.
 
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Solo

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I was curious with AGally's run how him and Yak stacked up over their career's so far. Clearly AGally has been the better NHLer thusfar.

Yakupov - 241 games played:
- 48 goals (0.20 per game)
- 56 assists (0.23 per game)
- 104 points (0.43 per game)

Galchenyuk - 262 games played:
- 67 goals (0.25 per game)
- 83 assists (0.32 per game)
- 150 points (0.57 per game)

And to not come off as a complete Habs homer, I also looked at probably the best player to come out of the 2012 draft.

Filip Forsberg - 169 games played:
- 55 goals (0.33 per game)
- 66 assists (0.39 per game)
- 121 points (0.72 per game)
 
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Line_HTX

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ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk 30m30 minutes ago

NFL Referees Association speaks out against reduction of Dennis Wideman's suspension to 10 games http://wp.me/p14QSB-a0jH



"We concur completely with the NHLOA’s objection to the reduced suspension," NFLRA executive director Jim Quirk said in a press release. “Regardless of the sport, any time an athlete makes unnecessary physical contact with an official there needs to be swift and certain punishment.

"Cutting the player’s suspension from 20 to 10 games while Linesman Henderson is expected to miss the remainder of the season due to the injury he sustained from the unnecessary hit, sends a horrible message about sportsmanship and the behavior of athletes. The integrity of all sports rests with the conduct of the players and the enforcement of the rules by officials. It’s a sad day when leniency is provided to an athlete who so directly violates this code of conduct and sportsmanship."
 
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imBask

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again not to shit on Galchenyuk but the 2012 draft was bad. Being the best of a terrible draft is not that impressive.

He's doing fine, I hope he can keep it up, I hope Desharnais is gone and I know Therrien won't keep him at #1 center
 
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