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NHL March |OT| It's Spring, Not Autumn, But The Leafs Are Fallin'
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I have such a hard time retaining info about teams of the east and their fans in this thread. Unless they have a fucking avatar to spell it out for me I usually just guess when their posts have no specific info attached. I'm sure others handle me in the same way, 'Who the fuck is this Sacco prick and why does the space man hate him so much?'
Found this quote from Burke a couple of years ago wheb he came in.
Regarding the rebuild.
Wow has anybody called him out on this shit when he said it?
First he didnt build Anaheim, Anaheims rebuild started with the drafting of Getzlaf and Perry (2003) and Lupul, Smid etc, by guess who Bryan Murray, he also added undrafted pieces like Penner and Kunitz via free agency and already had Bryzgalof. Also traded for Rob Neidermeyer which was the only the reason Neidermeyer came to Anaheim to win with his brother.
The only shit Burke did for that cup team was add Pronger which he lucked out on when Edmonton was handcuffed by him demanding a trade.
/ rant.
Regarding the rebuild.
Wow has anybody called him out on this shit when he said it?
First he didnt build Anaheim, Anaheims rebuild started with the drafting of Getzlaf and Perry (2003) and Lupul, Smid etc, by guess who Bryan Murray, he also added undrafted pieces like Penner and Kunitz via free agency and already had Bryzgalof. Also traded for Rob Neidermeyer which was the only the reason Neidermeyer came to Anaheim to win with his brother.
The only shit Burke did for that cup team was add Pronger which he lucked out on when Edmonton was handcuffed by him demanding a trade.
/ rant.
CrazedArabMan
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At least the beginning 2/3rd of this season was fun. :/
Dr.Guru of Peru
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Yeah, I dont understand why people aren't eager to rehash 5 year old arguments over who really built that Anaheim team.
/soconfused
Really? Who the fuck would spend the money on this?
Why not?
Maybe he knows something?
Really? Who the fuck would spend the money on this?
Are we bringing up that argument again?
You know what. I don't see the same argument being made for Ray Shero. Did he bring in Sidney Crosby? Evgeni Malkin? M-A Fleury? or even Brooks Orpik? Players that were part of the cup winning team. (Note. This is more than Bryan Murray's two drafted players)
But no one makes the argument. Because it's retarded. Both BURKE and SHERO brought in pieces that were essential to the cup winning team. Burke could have chosen not to bring in Scott Niedermayer or Chris Pronger. But he did. Same goes for Shero and the pieces he brought in. He could have chosen not to. But he did.
It's a dumb argument. Except if you use Stan Bowman as an example, I suppose.
You know what. I don't see the same argument being made for Ray Shero. Did he bring in Sidney Crosby? Evgeni Malkin? M-A Fleury? or even Brooks Orpik? Players that were part of the cup winning team. (Note. This is more than Bryan Murray's two drafted players)
But no one makes the argument. Because it's retarded. Both BURKE and SHERO brought in pieces that were essential to the cup winning team. Burke could have chosen not to bring in Scott Niedermayer or Chris Pronger. But he did. Same goes for Shero and the pieces he brought in. He could have chosen not to. But he did.
It's a dumb argument. Except if you use Stan Bowman as an example, I suppose.
The Internet
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Game of the Night is the 30th place Blue Jackets vs. the 29th place Oilers.
I know I'll be watching.
I know I'll be watching.
Zombie James
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Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
How are Seattle and KC even close to Quebec in this case?
Cake Boss only brought it up because Burke was quoted recently saying that he rebuilt Anaheim in two seasons, despite the rebuild already being well under way. 6 of the top 10 scorers for Anaheim in the 06-07 season were there pre-Burke, not to mention JS Giguere (and Bryz) who was probably the main reason why they won the Cup.
Burke does deserve credit for putting the Ducks over the top, but he shouldn't be acting like he did it himself.
Hopefully a 3 point game.
Bettman refuses to believe the reality of the Coyotes franchise.
Would you ever expect him to say anything different? It's all for presentation.
Yeah! Bring 'em to Seattle!
Zombie James
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I honestly don't get his hard-on for Phoenix and I never will.
And you guys get angry whenever the media talks about Toronto. They're only giving you guys what you apparently want.
Toronto Maple Leafs all the time baby!
Does anyone know if TSN2 is going to be showing any playoff games? TSN normally gets the rights to some of the American series, so I wouldn't be surprised if they had simultaneous broadcasts on TSN and TSN2. That'd be awesome.
Everyone loves a good Burke story. Dude knows drama.
Nah.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I think it's just Bettman's ego. He doesn't want this team to fail on his watch.
He saved Pittsburgh (by rigging the draft lottery, am I right Pens fans?) and thinks he can do it with Phoenix.
The problem is that the Phoenix franchise has no history, let alone about 100 other problems that can be listed.
I'm OK with this, but I guess it sucks for those overseas wanting to see a NHL game in-person.
Lactose_Intolerant
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Coyotes just need to get past the 1st round. I hope they don't play the wings this year and/or actually make the playoffs.
That's cool with me, since I haven't really had much interest in it, other than the first couple of years since it started. Safe move for the league with the CBA expiring.
lol @ everyone believing Bettman. He said the same shit about Atlanta last year. Seattle and KC are only mentioned to keep the price of the Coyotes high for the sale to QC. Neither of those cities are even close to QC when it comes to ability in taking a team in a hurry.
Glendale built the team a new arena less than 10 years ago. It doesn't help other teams with their stadium negotiations if the NHL bails so soon after getting a new arena no matter what problems the team is having.
Too bad he hasn't acted like he did it himself.
Again. Burke has given Murray credit.
Leave the dead horse alone.
EDIT: Plus Giguere was on the Ducks long before Burke or Murray. That doesn't really mean shit.
Gauthier acquired Giguere, Bryzgalov, Pahlsson and McDonald. Why don't we engrave his name on the cup while we're at it?
They have in previous years, IIRC.
Henrik just called Raymond a "borderline first liner" on most teams. I guess he's trying to build up the guy's confidence, but Jesus.
My bad. The quote that Cake Boss included reads a lot differently on its own.
[edit] HAH, those quotes are from 2007 after Burke won the Cup.... and Cake's quote is from 2010: "I'm not interested ... in a five-year rebuild like some of these teams have done," said Burke. "Maybe because of my age, maybe just because I know it doesn't have to be five years because it wasn't in Anaheim."
So Burke does sound quite stupid there, as if he doesn't realize how Anaheim had major pieces in place that Toronto didn't.
[edit] HAH, those quotes are from 2007 after Burke won the Cup.... and Cake's quote is from 2010: "I'm not interested ... in a five-year rebuild like some of these teams have done," said Burke. "Maybe because of my age, maybe just because I know it doesn't have to be five years because it wasn't in Anaheim."
So Burke does sound quite stupid there, as if he doesn't realize how Anaheim had major pieces in place that Toronto didn't.
I'd rather have Raymond on a 1st line than guys like Stalberg and Brunette.
He's got speed and can change direction really quickly when playing along the boards, but he doesn't create anything offensively and is often the death of transition opportunities. Maybe you need to see more of him..... but I also didn't realize that Stalberg and Brunette were getting time on the first line. I guess just because of Toews' injury.
Mike Works
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Hahaha, yeah those were some really tough decisions.
Neidermayer fell into his lap because he inherited a team that had his brother on the roster, and Pronger became available for lesser assets because his wife wanted to move somewhere sunny.
All hail the glorious Burke. Fantastic job he's done with the Leafs so far too, hope he keeps it up.
Yes. Making a trade is completely easy. You should go become a NHL GM.
EDIT: You guys want to argue. Fine. Just don't bring back five year old arguments.
I don't care who acquired them. Point is they were already there.Merguson said:
10/10 gif useThey've been getting 1st line time all year.......
Girlfriend gave birth? No way Tim Thomas could condone that on his team.
Dastardly Jerks
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Can you guys stop talking about when the Ducks were winners? It's now a sore spot.
Yet somehow I can make a thread about a Perianal Haematoma, gross a whole bunch of people out and not get banned.
Therefore I propose we flood OT with Medical Science threads.
Yet somehow I can make a thread about a Perianal Haematoma, gross a whole bunch of people out and not get banned.
Therefore I propose we flood OT with Medical Science threads.
(for the love of god; This is in JEST)
KernelPanic
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And I could say the same about Burke/Nonis and Mike Gillis. But I'm not going to bother. Because you could argue against it, and if I'm assuming correctly, I could easily use the same points as well.
So, as I said again, it's a retarded argument and I don't put any value in it. You could argue the same for most teams in the league but no one does because it's faulty.
brucewaynegretzky
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NHL-Gaf really does need some communal protest. I'd suggest "Free Solo" avatars.
Dastardly Jerks
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I always figured he was too soft to score.
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