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NHL March |OT| It's Spring, Not Autumn, But The Leafs Are Fallin'

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SCHUEY F1

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Frankly, that place scares me. I scroll down a page and see nothing but Manics and Forza. Its like walking down a dark alley and being cornered by two massive, horny cock-cravers who force-roofie you and do double anal on you.

:lol
 

Acid08

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Frankly, that place scares me. I scroll down a page and see nothing but Manics and Forza. Its like walking down a dark alley and being cornered by two massive, horny cock-cravers who force-roofie you and do double anal on you.

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I did read it. Then I said it was stupid. Maybe YOU should pay attention. You're not using the right frame of reference. Shanahan did that LAST YEAR. The standard for this year has been for the most part consistent and almost exclusively dealt in minor suspensions. If you don't like it, maybe it will change NEXT season, but comparing the standard between two different seasons isn't really relevant. What is important is that everyone is on the same playing field at the same time, which seems to be the case here.

Not I don't think that. But I do think it was pretty clear that series was getting out of hand and a signal needed to be sent there. Signals actually WORK in those situations because both teams are still in the same series together. It's a delicate balance and Shanahan probably got it wrong there. But it's STILL not relevant here.
For whatever reason, you're acting like Brendan Shanahan in July 2011 and Brendan Shanahan in September 2011 are two different people. They're not. Shanahan suspended 6 different players in the preseason alone, including this one:

James Wisniewski suspended for 10 games
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=590022

And here's an article on "THIS YEAR" Shanahan's suspensions:

Shanahan has proven he is more than capable of handling the seriousness of his position, as he handed out five suspensions in the first eight days of the preseason – including four that extend into the regular season.
And here's a fun exerpt from the end of that article:

Time will tell if Shanahan will continue to hit as hard with suspensions as players are on the ice. If he keeps it up, the NHL may become the first league to really eliminate head shots and Shanahan would be a Hall-of-Famer for more than his play on the ice.
And again, this is all playing under your point of view that Shanahan from the Stanley Cup Finals doesn't count under some god forsaken logic. His longest suspension ever given in the Stanley Cup finals most certainly does.
 

Stet

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This Maple Leafs / Coke Zero ad is such a ripoff of the Budweiser Superbowl spot.

And done terribly, I might add.
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
FYI, the Pens haven't lost in regulation since February 19th. That's insane. They've gone 13-0-1 since then.

FYI Canucks had a 13-game-no-regulation-loss streak in January/February too, not THAT insane.

EDIT: They went 10-0-3 though, so pens streak is definitely better. But just saying it's not THAT insane.
 
For whatever reason, you're acting like Brendan Shanahan in July 2011 and Brendan Shanahan in September 2011 are two different people. They're not. Shanahan suspended 6 different players in the preseason alone, including this one:

James Wisniewski suspended for 10 games
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=590022

And here's an article on "THIS YEAR" Shanahan's suspensions:


And here's a fun exerpt from the end of that article:


And again, this is all playing under your point of view that Shanahan from the Stanley Cup Finals doesn't count under some god forsaken logic. His longest suspension ever given in the Stanley Cup finals most certainly does.

No I'm saying that what MATTERS is how people have been suspended in competitive games this year. That is the relevant sample. No, Brendan Shanahan didn't change but suspension lengths from LAST year don't affect this year. All the previous suspensions from competitive games THIS season have an affect on the standings, and ultimately the playoffs. You're comparing things that have no competitive affect on one another.

So yes, Shanahan did things differently in the past, but they have no effect on the standings this year. Therefore, the only RELEVANT comparisons are regular season suspensions from THIS year. You're cherry picking. That's the bottom line.
 

Heretic

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Frankly, that place scares me. I scroll down a page and see nothing but Manics and Forza. Its like walking down a dark alley and being cornered by two massive, horny cock-cravers who force-roofie you and do double anal on you.
They're just skittles. Trust me!
 

El Tigre

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No I'm saying that what MATTERS is how people have been suspended in competitive games this year. That is the relevant sample. No, Brendan Shanahan didn't change but suspension lengths from LAST year don't affect this year. All the previous suspensions from competitive games THIS season have an affect on the standings, and ultimately the playoffs. You're comparing things that have no competitive affect on one another.

So yes, Shanahan did things differently in the past, but they have no effect on the standings this year. Therefore, the only RELEVANT comparisons are regular season suspensions from THIS year. You're cherry picking. That's the bottom line.

Save your fingers. There's no point.
 
No I'm saying that what MATTERS is how people have been suspended in competitive games this year. That is the relevant sample. No, Brendan Shanahan didn't change but suspension lengths from LAST year don't affect this year. All the previous suspensions from competitive games THIS season have an affect on the standings, and ultimately the playoffs. You're comparing things that have no competitive affect on one another.

So yes, Shanahan did things differently in the past, but they have no effect on the standings this year. Therefore, the only RELEVANT comparisons are regular season suspensions from THIS year. You're cherry picking. That's the bottom line.
So now only regular season suspensions count? And I'm cherry picking? Good God.
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
Save your fingers. There's no point.

There really isn't... Let's just wait until every team loses their star player to a dirty hit and the perpetrator only gets 3/5 games, THEN hopefully Shanahan will live up his "we want to give out scary bans so players will stop laying dirty hits". Because 5 games isn't scaring anyone, that's all we're saying.
 
So now only regular season suspensions count? And I'm cherry picking? Good God.

They're the only thing that affects the standings this year... so yes. You're picking ONE instance to compare to that is favorable to you. So yes, you're the one cherrypicking. I'm giving you an entire season to compare to. You're comparing apples and oranges. During this playoffs this year's regular season suspensions will be relevant.

Is this really that difficult to understand? Hint: Games played in different seasons don't affect the outcomes of future seasons.

There really isn't... Let's just wait until every team loses their star player to a dirty hit and the perpetrator only gets 3/5 games, THEN hopefully Shanahan will live up his "we want to give out scary bans so players will stop laying dirty hits". Because 5 games isn't scaring anyone, that's all we're saying.

Do you REALLY think I'm gonna be complaining about suspensions? I was the first one in line saying the Kronwall hit on Voracek didn't require a suspension. I'll argue penalty calls LONG before I argue a suspension. At least they affect what happens in the Flyers' games as opposed to some amorphous concept of "deterrence" that no one seems confident even seems confident is accomplished by these suspensions.
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
They're the only thing that affects the standings this year... so yes. You're picking ONE instance to compare to that is favorable to you. So yes, you're the one cherrypicking. I'm giving you an entire season to compare to. You're comparing apples and oranges. During this playoffs this year's regular season suspensions will be relevant.

Is this really that difficult to understand? Hint: Games played in different seasons don't affect the outcomes of future seasons.



Do you REALLY think I'm gonna be complaining about suspensions? I was the first one in line saying the Kronwall hit on Voracek didn't require a suspension. I'll argue penalty calls LONG before I argue a suspension. At least they affect what happens in the Flyers' games as opposed to some amorphous concept of "deterrence" that no one seems confident even seems confident is accomplished by these suspensions.

That's because they're generally, league-wide not long enough to be deterring, that's the whole point of the discussion.
 
They're the only thing that affects the standings this year... so yes. You're picking ONE instance to compare to that is favorable to you. So yes, you're the one cherrypicking. I'm giving you an entire season to compare to. You're comparing apples and oranges. During this playoffs this year's regular season suspensions will be relevant.

Is this really that difficult to understand? Hint: Games played in different seasons don't affect the outcomes of future seasons.
My argument is that Shanahan and the NHL have fucked up in deviating from the standard they set in the SCF last season and the beginning of this season. You asking me to find examples of suspensions compared to the standard Shanahan set in the first two months of his tenure is fucking idiotic because I'm agreeing that there aren't any and that's the problem.
 

Cake Boss

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Soon as I put the game away and start watching porn they start scoring.

I am going to stop watching for the next two weeks.

Edit oh hey look they overturned a goal, fuck this.
 
That's because they're not long enough to be deterring, that's the whole point of the discussion.

First, I call bullshit on that. How long does it have to be then? Second, FUCK long suspensions. The last thing I want to see is tons of players sitting out a bunch of games because the NHL wants to look tough. It ruins the game to take the players out. On top of all that the players don't even WANT those kinds of suspensions for other players the majority of the time. All the player polls show these things. The players are far tougher than most of the media gives them credit for.
 
My argument is that Shanahan and the NHL have fucked up in deviating from the standard they set in the SCF last season and the beginning of this season. You asking me to find examples of suspensions compared to the standard Shanahan set in the first two months of his tenure is fucking idiotic because I'm agreeing that there aren't any and that's the problem.

Except his first two months of tenure were in relatively unique settings, the SCF and preseason. Both of which are not normal conditions like a long regular season. So again, still, you're comparing apples and oranges. And by oranges I mean games that have no affect whatsoever on this year's standings.
 

Red_Man

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
If they win this game, randy will have a .500 record with the club. He's definitely left his mark, I hope he finds a coaching job somewhere else next year.
 
First, I call bullshit on that. How long does it have to be then? Second, FUCK long suspensions. The last thing I want to see is tons of players sitting out a bunch of games because the NHL wants to look tough. It ruins the game to take the players out. On top of all that the players don't even WANT those kinds of suspensions for other players the majority of the time. All the player polls show these things. The players are far tougher than most of the media gives them credit for.
Are you a joke character, or just the most ironic person in the world?
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
First, I call bullshit on that. How long does it have to be then? Second, FUCK long suspensions. The last thing I want to see is tons of players sitting out a bunch of games because the NHL wants to look tough. It ruins the game to take the players out. On top of all that the players don't even WANT those kinds of suspensions for other players the majority of the time. All the player polls show these things. The players are far tougher than most of the media gives them credit for.

Then maybe those players should STOP throwing illegal elbows to the head. It's not the NHL ruining the game with "looking tough", it's the players who throw those elbows. Are you saying that we should just let them do it and they'll learn? No, they won't. I don't want to see long suspensions as much as you, but not handing out suspensions is the wrong way, forcing them to stop throwing those kinds of illegal hits by having deterring suspension in place is the only way.
 
Then maybe those players should STOP throwing illegal elbows to the head. It's not the NHL ruining the game with "looking tough", it's the players who throw those elbows. Are you saying that we should just let them do it and they'll learn? No, they won't. I don't want to see long suspensions as much as you, but not handing out suspensions is the wrong way, forcing them to stop throwing those kinds of illegal hits by having deterring suspension in place is the only way.

Still waiting for that Sedin suspension announcement.
 
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