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NHL November 2013 |OT| 3rd Degree Assault. 2nd Degree Kidnapping. 1st Degree Racism
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hopefully no GM picks him up and he goes right to the ECHL
Fata1moose
Banned
I thought about the Russian tabloid thing, but didn't know if that was even part of their culture, a lot of countries have more pride in the private lives of celebrities than we do. I could see that though, I was just speculating and as I said I probably shouldn't. Best to wait and see what happens.
CrazedArabMan
Member
Helm back and Erricsson on long time IR, just keep delaying trading anyone I guess.
sazabirules
Unconfirmed Member
Kaleta is awful. It was a smart choice waiving him.
I was starting to believe you were cake boss until i got to the successful attempts at nude pics part.
brucewaynegretzky
Member
Shitty week. Went to bed at 4-0 last night. Thank fucking god I didn't make it through that atrocity.
Pickles the Firecat
Banned
Jesus, that's uncomfortable to watch. Might as charge him with battery. Fucking Emery.
Coldnoodle
Member
Ovie out again tonight.
I thought it was some entertaining hockey fights. It's the refs job to step in there, then disciplinary actions if that doesn't resolve it.
Coming from a Bruins fan. Shocking. Stuff like that is an embarrassment to the league and the sport.
I thought it was some entertaining hockey fights. It's the refs job to step in there, then disciplinary actions if that doesn't resolve it.
Sounds promising. I guess it is worth trying out.
I had to stop watching that emery fight after the second punch.
This kind of stuff is exactly why my parents would never watch hockey. Its definitely a concern for the NHL because if they want to reach a much broader audience taking out fighting has to happen. This also kind of applies to a couple of friends, but they just get really uncomfortable if a fight breaks out.
If you think about its kind of stupid, why do you really need to fight?
Coming from the resident Canadiens troll. Shocking. Go make some more Boston Marathon jokes while you're feeling zesty.
Fighting is still a part of the NHL. We've gone over the topic of removing it. Can't do it. You can try to clean up the game, but that only goes so far. The truth is NHL fans still want this and Bettman knows it. You'll have your morning Soccer Mom's calling in the morning, although that's the price you pay.
I agree. Same logic goes with American Football.
On your comment why they need to fight, because it's a part of the NHL and a part of why it's the most popular brand of hockey in the world.
Are current hockey fans going to stop watching hockey because its gone? I seriously doubt it.
sazabirules
Unconfirmed Member
That wasn't a normal hockey fight.
Is this a joke? Punching in the back of the head is not allowed and extremely dangerous.
Is this a joke? Punching in the back of the head is not allowed and extremely dangerous.
You're correct. If you allow fighting though, this is always going to happen. It's also happens to be the most entertaining aspect of yesterday's game. More exposure, positive and negative.
Should this stuff happen all the time? No.
Should there be suspensions? Oh, yes.
sazabirules
Unconfirmed Member
You're watching hockey for the wrong reasons if you truly think that was the best part of the game.
I never said I approve of punching in the back of the head. I
You're watching the wrong brand of hockey if you truly believe that isn't an aspect of the game. That is the point I'm getting at and still shocked that most people don't seem to get this point.
I'm the troll? :lol you're more full of shit then Byfuglien's toilet after a night at Taco Bell. Where did I say remove fighting? That wasn't a fight, Holtby said no and Emery laid waste to the back of his head. If you don't have an issue with that then you're part of the problem.
This.
equippedwithtowel
Member
What thread are you in?
Unhandled Exception
Member
Pretty sure all MMA fights are consensual, also pretty sure this ain't MMA. I'm understanding more why you and Tabris get along Hunter.
In a thread talking about NHL fighting.
Well, we generally talk about the Broncos and root for them. Anyways I think this NHL thread is too hostile compared to the NFL thread.
Well, you are. I love the Canadiens fans, particularly the ones on here. Posted for years without any problems with them until you showed up recently. You seem to revel in that whole rivalry aspect a bit too much. Comments about the Marathon kind of solidified that fact for me.
Don't really see how I'm part of the problem. It was a fight. There were fights all over the place last night.
First of all, GSP is always fighting a willing opponent. Secondly, I've seen MMA fights get stopped for less than that, that ref is an absolute moron. This doesn't absolve Emery of any blame, he fought a guy who said he didn't want to fight, and did nothing to deserve it.
equippedwithtowel
Member
There are studies on the link between increased viewership from the UFC demographic in the NHL, but don't see the link between his comment and what happened though.
Now you're on point!
KingHenrik30
Member
I love those jerseys, I hope they never get rid of them.
You feel like posting these jokes I made or you going to keep making up bullshit? That's why you're part of the problem, as long as fans are indifferent to shit like that Emery beat down then nothing is going to change. You continue to show your complete ignorance for the safety of the players and the image of the sport. But as long as you get to see someone's face smashed in you're all good right?
Those are great. I think the only Rangers sweater I recall hating was the one with the Statue of Liberty.
KingHenrik30
Member
People love those for some reason but I was never a fan either
Fighting has been placed on too high a pedestal in hockey to take it out. It's like a band aid that you'd have to rip out a some point.
Personally, I'd still watch the game without it. But the idea of players policing themselves or using it as a tactical advantage has become too commonplace that it would take time for the league to adjust without it. It could take years, as you begin to see enforcers retire or be repurposed as third/fourth liners, and you'd have younger players entering the league, educated in playing the game without fighting as part of it.
You'd probably see plenty of players throw the rulebook out and fight anyway, then just take the eventual suspension that comes with fighting. I can see the league do 10 games for fighting, and bump up the suspensions even higher at 20 at some point to send a clear message. All hypothetical right now.
Personally, I'd still watch the game without it. But the idea of players policing themselves or using it as a tactical advantage has become too commonplace that it would take time for the league to adjust without it. It could take years, as you begin to see enforcers retire or be repurposed as third/fourth liners, and you'd have younger players entering the league, educated in playing the game without fighting as part of it.
You'd probably see plenty of players throw the rulebook out and fight anyway, then just take the eventual suspension that comes with fighting. I can see the league do 10 games for fighting, and bump up the suspensions even higher at 20 at some point to send a clear message. All hypothetical right now.
I wonder if the ref was scared to stop it as they are pretty big men, and he would of had to tackle one alone to stop it. It was a pretty out of control situation.
Pickles the Firecat
Banned
I'm anti-fighting in hockey for a variety of reasons, none of which have anything to do with Emery wailing on a defenseless Holtby who clearly wanted no part of a fight, actively tried to back down while he was still able, and crumpled midway through being pummeled mercilessly. Dude seriously went to town on the back of a defenseless man's head repeatedly.
Two separate arguments.
GSP fights willing combatants bruh.
So, you would like to change the entire brand of the NHL. You can't be on both sides of the fence. The NHL is doing what they can to regulate cheap shots to promote a safer brand of hockey. They have kept fighting down to a much lesser degree than ever before. That is about as much as they can do without killing their audience. Really isn't many alternative options available.
I'm honestly not diving back into the time machine. You jumped on me for a comment I made and for caring about hockey more than victims or some nonsense while I was in lockdown mode. I'm the part of no problem, just stop being a jerk, engage in some good dialog during our games and it should all be fine.
How many second chances has the guy had? Continuously makes stupid, dangerous plays. The Richards hit was just 21 games before his most recent suspension.
He could be a decent player if he could control himself, but he hasn't yet.
It's really not two separate arguments though.
You're anti-fighting in hockey, which means you're not a fan of the NHL brand. I'm not going to be huffy-puffy and tell you to stop watching or any nonsense, but that's just how the NHL is and likely forever will be.
On the back of the head aspect, it was a bit excessive. However, shots to the back of the head isn't a new taboo offense. Due to the movement most players make during fights, it happens all the time. Point is here that Holtby wasn't able to defend himself any longer. Emery stopped as soon as the referee got in there...which for some reason he didn't do. My opinion? Both goalies should be suspended probably a game, Emery likely a couple more, and that referee should have a disciplinary hearing.
Unhandled Exception
Member
Besides, even some MMA fighters have more class than Emery. In fact I'm sure a lot of them do.
Emery would've pulled his ass up and kept hammering away on him.
Emery would've pulled his ass up and kept hammering away on him.
I remember, there were a couple occasions and involved him as well. Smiley too. Difference here is you don't have a continuous habit other than regular good natured shit.
Yeah, this is where the discussion starts going all over the place from that UFC comment. Only thing I can take away is every NHL player is different. There are a ton who respect the game and how fighting is initiated and done on this level.
Unhandled Exception
Member
NOBODY SHUTS OUT THE GOON SQUAD, SUSPEND THAT PIECE OF SHIT
I don't think fighting will ever be fully removed from hockey, but changes need to be made to make it safer, and the NHL isn't doing nearly enough right now. Guys like Scott have no place in this league, and not punishing a guy for detroying another player who was unwilling to fight just further promotes this kind of behavior. I don't know how you look at that fight and just say meh.
I also questioned his posting but I never made a joke about the actual incident.
That's just me. I usually believe any altercations from the goaltenders regardless of intent should be issued a lone game. Doesn't really matter though. It's like suspending a pitcher for 5 games in MLB.