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NHL Off-Season 2014 |OT| - O stands for Overhaul
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He had 3 great seasons and then one meh season, so he is shit according to people in Toronto.
Yea, I'm not trying to take away from what he's doing, it's amazing, but at the same time it's not like he's a 20 year old rookie. There's a lot of guys his age who have already spent multiple seasons in the NHL.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
Heh I like how you didn't mention with us...
Sigh...
Well with all hope Carlyle is done so young players can actually play on the leafs.
Carlyle seemed to prefer Bozak and Kadri over Grabovski thus slotting Grabovski in the 3rd line role where he wouldn't ever put up the points to justify the contract.
This probably would have continued this season as well. I think he was on the outs as soon as Burke left. Supposedly the Leafs were offered a 1st for Grabovski, Nonis wanted to take it, Burke decided the contract was the route to go.
Clearly that was the wrong choice. Leafs end up with nothing.
...this fucking team, man
His cap hit was $5.5M, he could be a good 2nd line center on a lot of teams, but since Kadri played so well in the short season the team Kadri could be 2nd line center for cheaper than Grabovski. Kadri's just about to put up 50 points in his first full 82 game season so they're weren't wrong on that I don't think.
Grabovski is a competitor, he's a bit of a hothead, when he's on his game he can be really good, but then other times you don't notice him. Don't think he was worth that contract, he's probably a great fit in the $4M range if someone can sign him to that.
Too bad Kadri is going to get traded
We will sign Bolland to be out 2nd line centre for 5 million dollars! He's only ever got more then 40 points once, five years ago, so he will be a great fit with David Clarkson!
I had to go look and see if that was correct. It looks like it was actually a 2nd and a prospect. Some thought that could have been turned into a 1st. (Burke claimed he had 1st round picks offers for his players).
Either way, I do remember something about Nonis preferring a trade.
Too bad Kadri is going to get traded
We will sign Bolland to be out 2nd line centre for 5 million dollars! He's only ever got more then 40 points once, five years ago, so he will be a great fit with David Clarkson!
Hope not, the thing with Kadri is he's still young and finding his way. Will turn 24 next season so he still has time to improve his overall game. With Grabovski already 30 and turning 31 next season, you know what he is already. He probably won't suddenly change from a 50 point guy to a 75 point guy. So when it became a choice between Grabovski or Kadri it was fairly simple to go with the younger guy. I hope they don't suddenly turn around and trade Kadri now. First time in a long time Leafs have their own draft pick and develop him into an NHL player.
Bolland is great as a 3rd line center, but he wants the big paycheck, so hopefully Leafs let him walk. They already have enough bad contracts.
Burke says a lot of shit. He claimed he could have gotten first rounders for Reimer, Grabovski etc. He also claimed he could move up in the draft and take Tavares if he really wanted to. I wouldn't trust anything Burke says.
How is Bolland different from Clarkson, they've proved they think 3rd liners are 30million dollar guys, I don't trust them one fucking bit.
I think they were hoping Clarkson would fit on the 2nd line, if he did then he would have been worth $5M.
I don't care what your "designated" position is, if you can't put up more then 40 points your not a second liner. Clarkson would have never been a 2nd liner on this team, and therefore not worth 5.25 million dollars. People shouldn't be getting paid based on where you expect them to play, but their actual skill level.
I got nothing. Despite my avatar i'm not Nonis. :-/
Fata1moose
Banned
Canuck fans, how good/bad is Luongo when coming back from injury? Debating whether to start him tonight, Calgary has been scoring quite a few goals lately too.
Jets just can't be beat when it comes to losing.
Dare to dream, guys.
Not great. Bench him.
Coldnoodle
Member
Dare to dream, guys.
Caps need to lose all their remaining games.
I want that 6th pick.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
What will Edmonton do without a first overall?
Dare to dream, guys.
((Lone_Prodigy
Member
Smh Dallas and Phoenix. Should've eliminated the Canucks already so Henrik won't play Saturday.
Knowing the baffling arrogance of the Islanders organization, they'll probably hold onto their 2014 pick.
And the Devils... they could have given up their 29th overall pick 2 years ago, right? Instead.... yeah.
And lol Sens. They never imagined that pick would end up being so high.
Right. I guess they'd always intended to appeal the decision. Still stupid, though.
Agreed, I'm just assuming they knew in some way that they would keep it. The only explanation for why they held onto it, Lamoriello is one of the smarter guys in hockey, I don't think he's really that dumb.
What will Edmonton do without a first overall?
Take Ekblad at #2 according to all these guys.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=712635
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=712639
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=712697
Coldnoodle
Member
What are you talking about, Mimico kid that can't even put up 40 points? Sounds like 2nd-line material to me!
-cries-
That's absolute best case, and would pretty much make it the worst trade of all-time.
It's been such a shitty year here. Daydreaming about these situations might be the best part of the season.
But then what if they win the lottery next year??
Dare to dream, guys.
I feel bad for the poor soul that gets picked up by Edmonton.
Edit: Maybe I should feel bad for all the the top four picks.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Hmm Bennett/ Ekblad/ Dal Colle (if a team out of the top 3 wins the lottery).
Dare to dream, guys.
Not bad. I've warming to Bennett quite a bit, though he'll likely convert to wing.
bonesmccoy
Banned
Dreger is full of it.
I don't think upper mgmt, like above Nonis, signs on a deal for Bolland.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
Bout this Joshua Ho-Sang kid? Gilmour really talked him up. Maybe we'll pick him if some others are not available? Plays RW/C so that could work for us.
Coldnoodle
Member
He's a boom or bust guy.
Hope the Caps keep losing and get into the top 6, win the lottery and draft Ekblaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
Kadri 2.0
Heard he doesnt play the
I would be down for Ho-Sang. While very highly skilled he still goes to the center of the ice and the net hard. He was in very high regard 2 years ago but fell. He has been having a great year and had a great top prospects game. Hard to tell where he gets picked. Could be anywhere from 12-30.
This is a draft were a 3-4 teams are going to hit jack pots in the middle and late 1st round.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
You know in your heart of hearts that Edmonton will troll everyone and get the #1 again
bonesmccoy
Banned
I think MacTavish will move Edmonton's pick. At some point they have to get 3 or 4 good, experienced NHL players, right?
And for those of us watching IsCarlyleGoneYet?.com with bated breath, here's a 2013 piece on possible replacement H/C's:
http://vansunsportsblogs.com/2013/05/08/20-potential-replacements-if-alain-vigneault-gets-fired/
Some of the names you can rule out since they've been hired elsewhere - but obviously there's a lot of candidates out there.
And for those of us watching IsCarlyleGoneYet?.com with bated breath, here's a 2013 piece on possible replacement H/C's:
http://vansunsportsblogs.com/2013/05/08/20-potential-replacements-if-alain-vigneault-gets-fired/
Some of the names you can rule out since they've been hired elsewhere - but obviously there's a lot of candidates out there.
Saw this kid live, unreal hands, reminds me of Eberle, but is a bit lazy and small.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
Too bad his stock seems to have dropped...read a lot of good stuff, but lazy and small keep popping up.
Kuro look at Virtainen, Barbashev, McCann, Ritchie, Kempe
I wouldn't be disappointed with any of them.
SuperSonic1305
Member
He sounds perfect for the Leafs.
bonesmccoy
Banned
Connor Brown's 128 points is the 64th best all time in the OHL.
Awwwww yeaaaaasaa
Awwwww yeaaaaasaa