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[Solo]

Here's some positivity for Red: I'm beyond excited to see AGally and Drouin hopefully on the same line and both on the first PP unit.

But (here comes the pessimism), I can picture Clod putting them on different lines and PP units to try to "spread" the offense. But that would be a mistake. Put 27 and 92 together and watch the magic.

 

[DopeyFish]

Feel like this is the Leafs' Luke Glendening contract, although Hymen is probably the better player. I'm always uncomfortable when these bottom 6 players, especially wingers, are given 4 or 5 year long contracts.

the big reason they are doing this is expectations he will outperform expectations eventually

we need to suppress contracts so we need them to be as long as possible

 

[Coldnoodle]

Zach Hyman Leafs captain has a good ring to it.

 

[Quick]

Hyman: rill gud pro, rill gud human bein.

 

[DopeyFish]

the more i look at the stats... why hasn't anyone signed jagr yet?

his advanced stats are absolutely ridiculous

>7.4% in CFrel and FFrel at 5v5 close?! WTF

> 14% in CFrel and FFrel in all situations?! HOW

and this:

@WheatNOil

Top TOI w/ Jagr

Corsi WITH Jagr / AWAY from Jagr
Barkov: 57% / 41%
Yandle: 53.6% / 48.8%
Ekblad: 56.7% / 49.3%
Huberdeau: 55.6% / 47.1%

 

[Red_Man]

Here's some positivity for Red: I'm beyond excited to see AGally and Drouin hopefully on the same line and both on the first PP unit.

But (here comes the pessimism), I can picture Clod putting them on different lines and PP units to try to "spread" the offense. But that would be a mistake. Put 27 and 92 together and watch the magic.

I assume they'll be split up as well, but I trust whatever line changes Julien decides to make.

the more i look at the stats... why hasn't anyone signed jagr yet?

his advanced stats are absolutely ridiculous

>7.4% in CFrel and FFrel at 5v5 close?! WTF

> 14% in CFrel and FFrel in all situations?! HOW

Its almost like those stats don't tell the whole picture 🤔

 

[DopeyFish]

I assume they'll be split up as well, but I trust whatever line changes Julien decides to make.

Its almost like those stats don't tell the whole picture ��

.917 oisv%

he isn't a defensive disaster... about average. see marchessault with his shiny 889 oisv oof

good oish%

firmly in the top 5 of the panthers in p60

high TOI

not too skewed zone starts

SA60 RelTM is near top of team

CF/FF leading, trailing... near tops


also the only source for QoC numbers I have doesn't have this seasons data... but last season he was playing the 3rd hardest matchups on the team (4th relqoc)

like... i haven't seen much that takes away from him yet


Maybe you should sign jagr?

Radulov at 5v5 last year: 8 goals and 23 assists in 1113 minutes.

Jagr at 5v5 last year: 8 goals and 25 assists in 1129 minutes.

 

[Samyy]

I think some of this complaining is getting a little unreasonable, Marleau contract isn't great but it's only 3 years, Hyman is getting paid essentially around what he deserves.

 

[Cake Boss]

.917 oisv%

he isn't a defensive disaster... about average. see marchessault with his shiny 889 oisv oof

good oish%

firmly in the top 5 of the panthers in p60

high TOI

not too skewed zone starts

SA60 RelTM is near top of team

CF/FF leading, trailing... near tops


also the only source for QoC numbers I have doesn't have this seasons data... but last season he was playing the 3rd hardest matchups on the team (4th relqoc)

like... i haven't seen much that takes away from him yet


Maybe you should sign jagr?

Radulov at 5v5 last year: 8 goals and 23 assists in 1113 minutes.

Jagr at 5v5 last year: 8 goals and 25 assists in 1129 minutes.

 

[Quick]

Is there such a statistic that's just way too narrow and specific to truly count?

Not shitting on Dopey's assessment of Jagr, but I'm legit curious of any stat being tracked that falls into that category.

I may be getting this wrong, but there was that stat that says Marincin is "good" or "decent" because he's not the focus of highlight videos where a goal is scored against him. That probably falls into that.

Also, can someone explain what Dopey just posted.

 

[MultiJhonny]

Is there such a statistic that's just way too narrow and specific to truly count?

Not shitting on Dopey's assessment of Jagr, but I'm legit curious of any stat being tracked that falls into that category.

I may be getting this wrong, but there was that stat that says Marincin is "good" or "decent" because he's not the focus of highlight videos where a goal is scored against him. That probably falls into that.

Also, can someone explain what Dopey just posted.

I need a chart or else I can't explain it.

 

[Parch]

UFAs get paid. Usually overpaid.
I've always thought a lot of RFAs get overpaid as well but arbitration awards have gotten very generous as well.
If a player has proven production then that's fine, but potential production get some pretty sweet contracts. When they fail to deliver then those become the bad, cap killing contracts.
There should be more bargain contracts with RFAs in the NHL. They prove themselves then they'll get paid when they reach UFA.

 

[zroid]

i won't believe that Jagr hasn't gotten offers (despite his self deprecating tweets), he must just be really picky about where he wants to go. Probably holding out for one of those few teams, and if they never call him he'll just go wherever.

he's still doing everything you could want from a middle six forward, drives play and scores quite a bit.

personally i'm surprised he hasn't already signed with Vegas, they seem like a perfect match?

 

[imBask]

Is there such a statistic that's just way too narrow and specific to truly count?

Not shitting on Dopey's assessment of Jagr, but I'm legit curious of any stat being tracked that falls into that category.

I may be getting this wrong, but there was that stat that says Marincin is "good" or "decent" because he's not the focus of highlight videos where a goal is scored against him. That probably falls into that.

Also, can someone explain what Dopey just posted.

i'm pretty sure his post is just a cryptic code that is part of the No Man's Sky ARG

 

[Parch]

How much does Jagr want? If he's happy with a couple mil then there's probably a few teams interested. At least those with some extra cap. If he's expecting 5 again he might as well hang 'em up.

The HF dopes are convinced that the Oilers are shopping for a vet winger so they mention Jagr or Iginla. I highly doubt that is going to happen.

 

[Cactus]

My guess is that he's hoping for an Eastern Conference playoff team

 

[Marvie_3]

Is there such a statistic that's just way too narrow and specific to truly count?

Not shitting on Dopey's assessment of Jagr, but I'm legit curious of any stat being tracked that falls into that category.

I may be getting this wrong, but there was that stat that says Marincin is "good" or "decent" because he's not the focus of highlight videos where a goal is scored against him. That probably falls into that.

Also, can someone explain what Dopey just posted.

Why bother?

 

[Socreges]

dubbed tells me he's signing with the Panthers and everyone knows this and that's why he hasn't signed with anyone yet.

 

[yyzjohn]

I think some of this complaining is getting a little unreasonable, Marleau contract isn't great but it's only 3 years, Hyman is getting paid essentially around what he deserves.

Read a Mirtle article yesterday where he posted what some dude projected for Hyman and Brown and it was 2.14 and 2.78. So the Hyman contract is pretty much in line there considering they bought 2 UFA years.

 

[zroid]

Upon further reflection, I can live with the contract. there's always the chance that Hyman actually starts cashing in on those chances. Just look at Grabner. sh% is volatile and we only have a year and a bit of data on Hyman so maybe he isn't as useless as he looked last season. maybe

i suppose it's preferable to bet on that upside than to not, considering the cap hit isn't going to kill you either way

 

[zroid]

The Handmaid's Tale is rill dang gud. I might have to read the book now.

 

[ElephantShell]

2.25 million is really not a lot of money these days.

Hyman is worth that imo.

 

[Smiley90]

.917 oisv%

he isn't a defensive disaster... about average. see marchessault with his shiny 889 oisv oof

good oish%

firmly in the top 5 of the panthers in p60

high TOI

not too skewed zone starts

SA60 RelTM is near top of team

CF/FF leading, trailing... near tops


also the only source for QoC numbers I have doesn't have this seasons data... but last season he was playing the 3rd hardest matchups on the team (4th relqoc)

like... i haven't seen much that takes away from him yet


Maybe you should sign jagr?

Radulov at 5v5 last year: 8 goals and 23 assists in 1113 minutes.

Jagr at 5v5 last year: 8 goals and 25 assists in 1129 minutes.

-rubs eyes-

 

[Merguson]

My concern about the Hyman signing is whether its pushing good players out of the lineup.

Hell, Matt Martin is already doing that.

I don't see a single spot for Leivo or Kapanen in the lineup (with a signed Connor Brown presumably) except for injuries. To me, that's not optimal. If Komarov was on his way out to make room for Kapanen/Leivo that would be better but somehow I doubt this.

 

[Heretic]

Habs resign Galchenyuk to 3 years 4.9 aav per Lavoie

Ducks can cover this!



Also, $12.5 mil to lose to the Ducks hehehe. He's done nothing and already making bank.

#jellycauseimpoor

 

[MultiJhonny]

Ducks can cover this!



Also, $12.5 mil to lose to the Ducks hehehe. He's done nothing and already making bank.

#jellycauseimpoor

You're admitting that you are poor and are a Ducks fan?! Idk how well that will go over in the OC

 

[Quick]

Ducks can cover this!



Also, $12.5 mil to lose to the Ducks hehehe. He's done nothing and already making bank.

#jellycauseimpoor

This is what happens when you have a one-Xbone-a-week habit.

Get some help, Hrtc.

 

[Marvie_3]

This is what happens when you have a one-Xbone-a-week habit.

Get some help, Hrtc.

Its all those scorpios hes saving up for. Hrtc gonna have that 444K setup.

 

[zroid]

My concern about the Hyman signing is whether its pushing good players out of the lineup.

Hell, Matt Martin is already doing that.

I don't see a single spot for Leivo or Kapanen in the lineup (with a signed Connor Brown presumably) except for injuries. To me, that's not optimal. If Komarov was on his way out to make room for Kapanen/Leivo that would be better but somehow I doubt this.

i will never say that i'm hoping for Martin to get injured

but i won't say i'm not hoping for it either

 

[Heretic]

Microsoft loves me.



Edit: dammit, zroid, now my post just looks weird...

 

[lupinko]

Microsoft loves me.



Edit: dammit, zroid, now my post just looks weird...

https://frinkiac.com/video/S08E02/dV8NroQFBFd6DegjfCZ0j9Rr8uU=.gif

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

With the McDavid contract, how much do you think Tavares signs for? Under $10M would be a huge win.

The Karlsson contract in 2019 will be a doozy.

The 2018 UFA class is pretty mediocre, but the 2019 one looks fun. Doughty, Bob, Couture, Duchene, Pavelski, Seguin.

 

[Unhandled Exception]

This one's for TUSR

 

[Line_HTX]

-rubs eyes-

I can't read that either. Sorry.

 

[excelsiorlef]

With the McDavid contract, how much do you think Tavares signs for? Under $10M would be a huge win.

The Karlsson contract in 2019 will be a doozy.

The 2018 UFA class is pretty mediocre, but the 2019 one looks fun. Doughty, Bob, Couture, Duchene, Pavelski, Seguin.

Tavares is an 8 million per max

 

[Red_Man]

Tavares is an 8 million per max

Lol wut

 

[excelsiorlef]

Lol wut

66 points...

Under 30 goals

I wouldn't give him 10+

Maybe maybe I'd go 9

28th in the league in scoring, tied with freaking Jeff Carter

I mean he'll get it but he doesn't strike me as 10 million.

 

[astroturfing]

never in the history of the NHL will a Nylander score 100 points.

mark my words.

 

[lupinko]

66 points...

Under 30 goals

I wouldn't give him 10+

Maybe maybe I'd go 9

28th in the league in scoring, tied with freaking Jeff Carter

I mean he'll get it but he doesn't strike me as 10 million.

...

Just return when the playoffs start.

 

[excelsiorlef]

...

Just return when the playoffs start.

Why does he get a bonus based on his golf score?

 

[CreeperBlocks]

never in the history of the NHL will a Nylander score 100 points.

mark my words.

I believe that

 

[zroid]

never in the history of the NHL will a Nylander score 100 points.

mark my words.

Kapanen tho

 

[imBask]

Have a feeling Paul Byron is gonna wait to see how well he plays next season.

With how badly he destroyed the worlds, he could be hitting 100 points next season

 

[lupinko]

Kapanen tho

Dat Marleau doe.

 

[Solo]

I assume they'll be split up as well, but I trust whatever line changes Julien decides to make.

These aren't the lines I'd choose, but based on last year this is how I see Julien lining the team up to start the season:

Pacioretty-Danault-Drouin
Lehkonen-Galchenyuk-Gallagher
Byron-Plekanec-Hemsky
Hudon-Mitchell-Shaw

PP1 (should be pretty damn good):

Pacioretty-Galchenyuk-Drouin
Weber-Petry

PP2:

Lehkonen-Plekanec-Gallagher
Alzner-Jerabek

 

[yyzjohn]

never in the history of the NHL will a Nylander score 100 points.

mark my words.

Now you've done it. After Dopey wakes up he'll come on here with a post about HG%, ASP% and HIFG% and nobody will know what the fuck he's talking about.

 

[CreeperBlocks]

These aren't the lines I'd choose, but based on last year this is how I see Julien lining the team up to start the season:

Pacioretty-Danault-Drouin
Lehkonen-Galchenyuk-Gallagher
Byron-Plekanec-Hemsky
Hudon-Mitchell-Shaw

PP1 (should be pretty damn good):

Pacioretty-Galchenyuk-Drouin
Weber-Petry

PP2:

Lehkonen-Plekanec-Gallagher
Alzner-Jerabek

Oooooooo that power play

Fuck

 

[imBask]

Lekhonen on a 2nd line is the sign of a team that is struggling hard

sorry Creepster

 

[Cake Boss]

Stop being negative.

 

[Yawnier]

Lekhonen on a 2nd line is the sign of a team that is struggling hard

sorry Creepster

Just put Lord Byron on the second line then