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Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch |OT|

Misterhbk

Member
is there a way to assure that you'll get the hearts after defeating a creature? I really want a certain one but I keep killing them without an opportunity to tame them.
 

Jive Turkey

Unconfirmed Member
is there a way to assure that you'll get the hearts after defeating a creature? I really want a certain one but I keep killing them without an opportunity to tame them.

Nope. There's a merit award which helps get a taming opportunity but it's almost completely useless. It's really just luck and the game deciding not to be a dick to you.
 

buffi

Banned
33 hours? I find that kind of unbelievable.

Well, I guess I can snap a picture of the screen and post it later today, but I don't really have much of reason to lie or anything :)
Not sure why that should be considered anything special.

As mentioned, I did all bounty hunts, and only enough quests to get the last merit badge (the one that costs 8, which of course means all the previous rows as well).

Still, I didn't really rush through the game or anything, so I honestly have no idea why 33hours would be considered weird.

Hmm that is indeed mighty fast. I did all the bounty hunts I was eligible to as well, am nowhere near finishing the game and I am almost at 40 hours lol.

Well, took a pic of the game clear save for proof
http://i.imgur.com/FHVVkP0.jpg (spoiler for last chapter name + count I guess)

No idea why people seem to take 40+ hours to finish the game, unless going for every single quest or something. I did not really rush through the game or anything.
I did however use Dinocerus, and he is just gamebreakingly overpowered.
 

Torraz

Member
Can anyone rank the importance of the final tier of swift solutions upgrades, please? I will not be going for platinum.
 
Well, took a pic of the game clear save for proof
http://i.imgur.com/FHVVkP0.jpg (spoiler for last chapter name + count I guess)

No idea why people seem to take 40+ hours to finish the game, unless going for every single quest or something. I did not really rush through the game or anything.
I did however use Dinocerus, and he is just gamebreakingly overpowered.

I was at 42 hours at that point, however I had got pretty addicted to the casino. Would've been around 38/39 with all quests done at that point. To be fair though I've barely touched anything to do with alchemy, so that's probably saved me time.
 

Toth

Member
How are people getting Dinoceros to be so powerful? Yes he hits quite well but his accuracy is terrible, even with feeding him accuracy pies.
 

Boulayman

Member
Well, took a pic of the game clear save for proof
http://i.imgur.com/FHVVkP0.jpg (spoiler for last chapter name + count I guess)

No idea why people seem to take 40+ hours to finish the game, unless going for every single quest or something. I did not really rush through the game or anything.
I did however use Dinocerus, and he is just gamebreakingly overpowered.

Yah, you sorta breezed through the game. I'll have to find that dinoceros familiar haha

(http://howlongtobeat.com/gamebreakdown.php?gameid=11119)

As you can see the average is 51 hours.

OH and Ricker,
It is only available during combat...switch to it with L2/R2 like you do for defend,Provisions etc and you will see the options there...I think it stays after once you set it there...

I am really not finding that. When I press L2 or R2, it doesn't really do anything except move around my attack options.. To go all attack/all defend I only press square/triangle
 

hertog

Member
Any familiars that you want to get early in the game?


I'm about to
go on a boat
And I mostly use my familiars that I've got in the storyline
 

Boulayman

Member
Out of curiosity, what di dyou think of the shaddar fight ? I was so relieved when in his third form they gave you back full health and mp. I really think they should do that in all jrpgs for all boss fights. That being said, by then I had completely ran out of phonix feathers etc and swaine and eser got wiped out quite early on so I ended up soling the dark djin form for a while. Was fun but in a way not very jrpg like given how his attacks were well area based and avoidable if you knew the pattern. Has anyone else had a similar experience ?
 
How are people getting Dinoceros to be so powerful? Yes he hits quite well but his accuracy is terrible, even with feeding him accuracy pies.

His attack stat is OP, and because most of his tricks are dealing physical damage they deal massive damage ;)

I am really not finding that. When I press L2 or R2, it doesn't really do anything except move around my attack options.. To go all attack/all defend I only press square/triangle

When in control of one of your party members during combat, one of their options is Tactics :)
 

buffi

Banned
How are people getting Dinoceros to be so powerful? Yes he hits quite well but his accuracy is terrible, even with feeding him accuracy pies.

He takes almost no damage, and hits for a ton. Accuracy doesn't really matter tbh.

Both Earsplitter and that Rock throwing thing has 100% hit rate. Between using those, just attack a bit. Even if you miss, you'll still be dealing insane amounts of damage, without taking much of any yourself.
 

nonnocere

Member
Out of curiosity, what di dyou think of the shaddar fight ? I was so relieved when in his third form they gave you back full health and mp. I really think they should do that in all jrpgs for all boss fights. That being said, by then I had completely ran out of phonix feathers etc and swaine and eser got wiped out quite early on so I ended up soling the dark djin form for a while. Was fun but in a way not very jrpg like given how his attacks were well area based and avoidable if you knew the pattern. Has anyone else had a similar experience ?

Yes when
the third form was revealed, I was relieved to have full health again. Overall the battle wasn't that bad for me, in the upper 40's with Oliver, if memory serves.
 

Boulayman

Member
His attack stat is OP, and because most of his tricks are dealing physical damage they deal massive damage ;)



When in control of one of your party members during combat, one of their options is Tactics :)

Haha thanks man, I have been playing with oliver way too much I guess so I never really noticed :S
 

barrin87

Member
Does anyone know if the Miasma Marshes is accessible after you finish the story events in that area? I can't get past the guy that is standing in front of the entrance.
 

Boulayman

Member
Does anyone know if the Miasma Marshes is accessible after you finish the story events in that area? I can't get past the guy that is standing in front of the entrance.

Funnily, I just asked myself the same questions a few minutes ago. I tried to go back in there and that guy was telling me that the miasma became a beautiful lake. Lies. I flew over and it was still pink stuff...

And man do being able to change tactics make fighting against mobs FAR easier lol.

Btw, I am currently fighting

the cowlipha and he asks me to use a spell to give her weight. I had the same issue when fighting that snake boss before. I keep using Burden but it keeps missing -,-
 

Yuterald

Member
Just got the boat. 21 hours logged. I'm enjoying the game more now than I did initially. I'm still more in the crowd that enjoys the game more so for its visuals/production values/classiness than for the actual game itself. The book is really fucking cool though. I've just started to read more of the entries and it's like attention to details to the max. Using the book to solve puzzles and finding words for solutions is neat too. That's definitely a side of the game that feels pretty special.

I still don't care for the battle system much. I don't think the monster raising/capturing element is very interesting in this game. I certainly dislike how you capture monsters. It still blows my mind that a game centered around monster capturing, which is 95% of your combative arsenal, is tied to luck/chance percentages. Jesus Christ, has Level-5 never played any other monster raising game? Pokemon, Nocturne, Jade Cocoon, even? It's just a weird design decision/oversight, whatever the fuck you want to call it.

The AI is still questionable too. I also think it's pretty lame that options (like Tactics) are locked away until certain points in the game. Some of the older Tales games used to pull this shit (like not getting the Manual AI option right away) and it's not a very good idea. As far as the difficulty goes I think the game feels fairly balanced. I'm never completely crushing bosses yet and I've found myself dead a few times when I wasn't paying attention.

I think there's a lot of missed opportunities with the everyday spells too. Will I ever create bridges again or use fire to ignite things? They should have had backtrack-able spots (other than the treasure chests, which is very cool) to use those tool-like spells. The first forest dungeon in the game could have had a path that you couldn't cross unless you used the bridge spell, I don't know, shit like that. Go all the way, Wild ARMs style, if you're going to do stuff like this. The kind of shit that you can do with this spells has been done before, but it's all cool stuff still. Like using a spell to talk to animals, it's been done in a few RPGs to my knowledge (again, like in Wild ARMs, only it was a wand) so it's nothing I personally haven't seen before. Still, this sort of shit is highly appreciated and goes a long way with me.

I hope this Shadar shit picks up soon too. That council stuff is cool and everything, but I feel like they haven't done anything yet. I keep hearing about Shadar breaking people's hearts, but I guess it happened already? The volcano boss test was cool, but I'm waiting for "those" kinds of moments, you know what I mean? I'm guessing the game will "get there", but it's taking its sweet as time, so far! =D
 
Just finished the game.

Took me a bit below 33 hours, which makes me wonder why everyone is claiming that this game is 40-50h, if not going for full completion.

I did most (but not all) sidequests, and all bounty hunts, which gave me enough merit badges to get the last reward (
the +100hp/mp one
).

No way in hell that I'm going to spend the time to collect all of the pokemon though, so I'm not sure if I'll touch much of the post game content. I'll probably do the bounty hunts or something.

That's a pretty fast time and atypical of the average play through. Took me 38hrs and change on my first play through, and I usually clock in on the lower end of the spectrum when comparing my times to GAF when it comes to jRPGs. On my second play through knowing what to do and skipping every single cutscene and doing almost every single side quest I could (were two I didn't finish till post game), I was at the final battle at 24:13. I have two trophies left (250 familiars, 120 recipes), and I'm at 55:28 right now. I expect it will be around 60-65 hours when I finally have every trophy.

I did not use Dinoceros at all in either play through until post game. Even then I got him as a reward rather than capturing him.

levels? If you mean evolutions the answer is 3.

Edit: Technically each base Familiar can be evolved twice and has four forms (first two you always get, then you pick from two choices for the final form).
However, there is one that has three evolutions in linear fashion, culminating with a unique fourth form.
 

Finalow

Member
Technically each Familiar has two evolutions and four forms.
However, there is one that has three evolutions and a fourth form.
it's 3 evolutions if you count the 2 final forms as 2 evolutions, if not it's just 2. :p

who's the one with 4?
 

nonnocere

Member
hi,

can someone help me about the boutny hunts. How come some are not showing on the map?

If you go to the world map in the Wizard's Compendium, there are red stars over the locations. That might help you zero in on the right zone. In the zone, they're blinking blue dots and optional fights.
 
it's 3 evolutions if you count the 2 final forms as 2 evolutions, if not it's just 2. :p

who's the one with 4?

Yea, that's right. For any one base Familiar, you can evolve it twice, but it can have 4 unique forms in total due to the branch after you evolve it past its second form.

Mandragorer. It evolves after like 2-3 levels into Pendragorer. After 2-3 levels, it evolves into Mendragorer. Finally, after another 2-3 levels, it evolves into Thundragorer. Leveling it up takes more experience than usual like Dinoceros. It's like 10-15K exp for one level at Level 1.
 

barrin87

Member
the last remaining remaining ingredients are annoying, kaleidostones and scrolls of truth... -.-

Definitely agree! I started going for them just today and it sucks already. I luckily already had 2 kaleidostones but I still need at least one just to create one item. I checked and I already have 3 recipes that each require 5 of them. I haven't even started trying for the scrolls.
 

x3r0123

Member
well i got plat, 78hours total :S

Definitely agree! I started going for them just today and it sucks already. I luckily already had 2 kaleidostones but I still need at least one just to create one item. I checked and I already have 3 recipes that each require 5 of them. I haven't even started trying for the scrolls.

well luckily i didnt have to get them now. ended up making 121/134 of the items but if you want to get the best items for esther/swaine then i recommend farming the conductor quest
 

Ruuppa

Member
I've just got to Hamlin, but I'm getting my ass kicked by normal mobs. What's a good team to go out and grind a little?
Something melee, something magey, something melee. As long as the melee guys have 3 or more stars in movement and attack speed, you should be fine. Go grind on Swan Islands(the three islands NE from Ding Dong Dell) for a bit, Tokos spawn there and they give 2000 XP. They're somewhat prone to running away though. Not sure if they spawn on all the islands, or only on the south-eastern one.
 

Torraz

Member
Something melee, something magey, something melee. As long as the melee guys have 3 or more stars in movement and attack speed, you should be fine. Go grind on Swan Islands(the three islands NE from Ding Dong Dell) for a bit, Tokos spawn there and they give 2000 XP. They're somewhat prone to running away though. Not sure if they spawn on all the islands, or only on the south-eastern one.

Tokos only spawn on the ugly duck island, I think.
 

Boulayman

Member
Quick question as I think I'm about to finish the game. Is there some sort of post game mode I can use to platinum or should I do everything first ,
 

Necrovex

Member
I started to make my way through this game again after a slight break. I am about seven hours in, and
I am on my way to the cove to get a boat.
Could anyone let me know how far in the game I am?
 

SxP

Member
I started to make my way through this game again after a slight break. I am about seven hours in, and
I am on my way to the cove to get a boat.
Could anyone let me know how far in the game I am?

Save your game before you get there. Trust me.
 

Finalow

Member
Yea, that's right. For any one base Familiar, you can evolve it twice, but it can have 4 unique forms in total due to the branch after you evolve it past its second form.

Mandragorer. It evolves after like 2-3 levels into Pendragorer. After 2-3 levels, it evolves into Mendragorer. Finally, after another 2-3 levels, it evolves into Thundragorer. Leveling it up takes more experience than usual like Dinoceros. It's like 10-15K exp for one level at Level 1.
oh he's one of those special monsters, I read how you get him.
thanks.


btw I'm before the final dungeon and only those fucking annoying Derwin quests remain but the report says just 80% task completion, do I get that 20% in the post-game? How many? Also is that the same for the bounties?
 

Raw64life

Member
the last remaining remaining ingredients are annoying, kaleidostones and scrolls of truth... -.-

Yep. It's my last remaining sidequest before I go beat the
post-game boss
and call it a game. I never cared for alchemy in the Dragon Quest series and I don't care for it in this either. I already had no intention of going for a platinum since I don't care about trophies to begin with but I wanted to at least complete every sidequest and fill up the stamp cards. Tie between this and the 2nd to last Derwin sidequest for most annoying thing in the game.
 
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