capylikesgames
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I personally can't do joystick mouse, and just stuck to a DS4. Sucks, because something tells me this game would feel incredible on a Steam Controller if they took full advantage of it. Too bad that's never happening. :'/
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Nier: Automata PC performance thread
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The Thnikkaman
Neo Member
OK, so reporting in since I finally got home from work to play:
i7 6700k OC to 4.6 GHz
GTX 1080 8GB
16GB DDR4
Running at 2560x1440 Borderless Windowed
All Settings HIGH w/ 2xAA
I'm seeing MOSTLY 60 but I'm getting frequent stutters and random drops (in addition to the pop-in other people have been seeing).
Disabling AA or AO seems to have no effect on the stuttering.
I'm going to drop to 1080p to see if that does anything. I can handle 1080p for a bit (until a patch drops) if it never drops from 60.
If dropping to 1080p doesn't help there's definitely some kind of bug, this PC should easily handle this. PC port seeming like it needs some work unfortunately. We've for sure seen worse but this isn't great on day 1.
i7 6700k OC to 4.6 GHz
GTX 1080 8GB
16GB DDR4
Running at 2560x1440 Borderless Windowed
All Settings HIGH w/ 2xAA
I'm seeing MOSTLY 60 but I'm getting frequent stutters and random drops (in addition to the pop-in other people have been seeing).
Disabling AA or AO seems to have no effect on the stuttering.
I'm going to drop to 1080p to see if that does anything. I can handle 1080p for a bit (until a patch drops) if it never drops from 60.
If dropping to 1080p doesn't help there's definitely some kind of bug, this PC should easily handle this. PC port seeming like it needs some work unfortunately. We've for sure seen worse but this isn't great on day 1.
That's a shame. The mouse-joystick feels practically the same as a mouse for this. Just have to knock the horizontal and vertical sensitivity up 10 notches each (going any further is too sensitive for me). Sometimes mouse-joystick can be slugish in some games requiring a lot of tweaking but this just works with that slight adjustment.
A little bit crap that they didn't think out the mouse controls for the shmup and sidescrolling sections, since those are unplayable with either mouse / mouse-joystick due to the way they only set them up for a stick. Thankfully just double tapping for a mode switch to it sorts that out. So I'm quite happy with it being super simple.
Yeah same. My issue is laziness to go to the lounge and use link to stream to the tv, or simply carry the small machine over to the tv, and my urge to save for a 21:9 display that is pretty high end, along with a better graphics card to support going a bit crazy with it.
Chance Hale
Member
Did that and still having problems, what the fuck. It worked in window at least first launch
texhnolyze
Banned
I'm well aware of that. It's just that if we need the fastest cards to achieve better performance than PS4 version, might as well get that version. It's ridiculous calling this a good port with that condition.
Abilidebob
Member
How do people know that the game isn't running at the correct resolution in fullscreen? Is there a program that shows the rendering resolution of a game?
Man optimization doesn't seem that good.
I first loaded into the game with highish settings. Played a bit but the FPS was around 30fps which wasn't good, backed out and changed the settings, dropped AA off for one. Started the game again, and still only had around 35FPS. Barely changed anything.
At this point I decided to just run through the intro so I didn't have to keep seeing it over and over again while I tweaked settings. Which by the way, it played really awfully at around 35fps, controls felt really sluggish since it seemed to cause some input lag.
I've been messing with the graphical settings again now I'm down onto the world and even if I turn everything off, I'm still only getting 40-45fps at 1440p. Most of the settings don't seem to improve the frame-rate much at all.
I get that a 970GTX isn't that good anymore, but man, it's not like the game looks that amazing anyway. Really disappointing.
(This is using the Borderless Gaming app, by the way, I'm not sure if that's affecting performance any)
I first loaded into the game with highish settings. Played a bit but the FPS was around 30fps which wasn't good, backed out and changed the settings, dropped AA off for one. Started the game again, and still only had around 35FPS. Barely changed anything.
At this point I decided to just run through the intro so I didn't have to keep seeing it over and over again while I tweaked settings. Which by the way, it played really awfully at around 35fps, controls felt really sluggish since it seemed to cause some input lag.
I've been messing with the graphical settings again now I'm down onto the world and even if I turn everything off, I'm still only getting 40-45fps at 1440p. Most of the settings don't seem to improve the frame-rate much at all.
I get that a 970GTX isn't that good anymore, but man, it's not like the game looks that amazing anyway. Really disappointing.
(This is using the Borderless Gaming app, by the way, I'm not sure if that's affecting performance any)
Base PS4 is 900p no AA 40-60fps. The reports in here don't sound anywhere near as bad as that on a 970.
BoosterDuck
Banned
If you turn on the steam overlay then the text and your cursor look blurry, and the games menus look blurry
dr_rus
Member
Possibly. I've tried it on my monitor so I can't really tell the difference between 900p and 1080p videos. Only that they are videos.
Game is most certainly NOT a mess technically. But there are some minor issues which will hopefully be patched soon.
The Thnikkaman
Neo Member
EDIT: Are images supposed to stretch the screen when in IMG tags or is it a problem on my end?
So I dropped it to 1080p windowed fullscreen after 1440p was seeing alot of drops.
Was actually running decently w/ 8xAA. Was getting some microstutters, but running better than 1440.
But then this happened:
If it's having trouble streaming textures in, would installing to my SSD help perhaps?
So I dropped it to 1080p windowed fullscreen after 1440p was seeing alot of drops.
Was actually running decently w/ 8xAA. Was getting some microstutters, but running better than 1440.
But then this happened:
dr_rus
Member
First ten minutes on my 6850K/1080: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCY0ruf-9v0 (should be 1440p60 but YouTube is slow at processing).
lmimmfn
Member
tried that with the xbox one controller and it does nothing. this is really annoying
Thanks man, reboot after firmware worked
I made a short video of me just sprinting through one of the early stages, the pop in is nowhere near this level on PS4 (I've seen/played both PC and PS4).
This is honestly the port's biggest issue and it's a huge step down from the console version. Unfortunately, my worry is that the PC version is going to remain unpatched while the console one gets attention. They already reduced the stuttering on console from when it released in Japan to the American release.
This is honestly the port's biggest issue and it's a huge step down from the console version. Unfortunately, my worry is that the PC version is going to remain unpatched while the console one gets attention. They already reduced the stuttering on console from when it released in Japan to the American release.
Yeah this has to be a bug, it's really atrocious.
HerroRygar
Member
WOW. That is not good.
Welp. I was looking for a game to buy for next weekend when my wife was out of town, and I had strongly leaned towards it being this one. Guess not, unless they get a miracle patch out in the next week. Now I'll pick up Horizon and wait on this to get patched or be on sale.
bro there was nothing mentioned about the PC version until an hour before it released. we aren't going to hear anything from them. just hope a patch comes soon
AA off, AO off - https://abload.de/img/aaoffaoofffmlgo.png
AA off, AO on - https://abload.de/img/aaoffaoon9mlxt.png
AA 8x, AO on - https://abload.de/img/aa8aoon2obwh.png
Post processing AA seems to be tied to the ambient occlusion option for some reason.
And also AA 8x seems to make jaggies worse in some parts.
AA off, AO on - https://abload.de/img/aaoffaoon9mlxt.png
AA 8x, AO on - https://abload.de/img/aa8aoon2obwh.png
Post processing AA seems to be tied to the ambient occlusion option for some reason.
And also AA 8x seems to make jaggies worse in some parts.
Avenger54321
Member
So I'm guessing this port is currently not worth it, and best to wait til they fix the issues? Sad to hear, because I really wanted to see how well it would run on my PC compared to the PS4 version. Anyone with a similar setup can tell me how well it works on their PC?
i5-6500
8GB of RAM
RX480 8GB
i5-6500
8GB of RAM
RX480 8GB
Peterthumpa
Member
Then explain why it is running at 1080p on a PS4 Pro.
dr_rus
Member
The engine may be not very good but it doesn't mean that it's a mess. So far I'm seeing issues which are likely to be mostly driver related (current NV driver don't even have a profile for the game; btw, forcing "prefer max performance" in the driver may help with performance in case of NV users) and one somewhat strange issue with framerate which seems to be unable to stay locked at display refresh rate - I'm seeing constant fluctuations around 59-60 instead.
With 770 being the minimum officially it's no wonder that you actually need a good GPU to make the game run at 60.
People are too fast at declaring games "a mess" and "bad ports" these days. I for one still remember how a bad port looks like (hint: DMC3 PC).
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Well played the game at 1440p 4x MSAA at 60 on an i7 7700K, GTX 1080, and 16GBs of RAM used Borderless Windowed with Borderless Gaming for about 6-7 hours.
Had some drops when I had it on 8x MSAA but I was streaming at the same time so that might have eaten some resources and ran smoothly at 4x. I'd like the LOD stuff to be togglable to be a bit higher and patched so the pre-rendered cutscenes run smoother since they hitched a bit for me in a few of them. Otherwise, I've been perfectly happy with the port
Had some drops when I had it on 8x MSAA but I was streaming at the same time so that might have eaten some resources and ran smoothly at 4x. I'd like the LOD stuff to be togglable to be a bit higher and patched so the pre-rendered cutscenes run smoother since they hitched a bit for me in a few of them. Otherwise, I've been perfectly happy with the port
Peterthumpa
Member
Agreed, but I'm not saying Nier is a bad port - maybe you said it right - the engine is definitely not optimized, but even for the target platform (PS4). And the graphics are not that good, 60 FPS or not.
HoopzBarkley
Member
That sucks to see the game is having optimization problems. Not home yet and was excited to play this tonight.
MattPeters
Member
Dropped it to 2xMSAA, and now im getting a smooth 60 on my R9-390.
Game is so good.
Game is so good.
What's the motivation of playing this game in particular in Borderless Window? (Other than the general benefits of borderless window)
Here's a 1920x1200 screen from borderless window, and one from fullscreen. Saved as a steam png (the uncompressed or whatever) and uploaded to imgur with the high quality option checked.
Here's a 1920x1200 screen from borderless window, and one from fullscreen. Saved as a steam png (the uncompressed or whatever) and uploaded to imgur with the high quality option checked.
When the game is ran in exclusive fullscreen, it's rendered at a resolution below the one you selected and upscaled (so it looks worse). This issue doesn't exist in windowed.
For several people fullscreen mode is broken (game displays at a lower resolution than the one selected, while windowed mode works fine), so borderless mode is a must for those of us with this issue.
But I'm not seeming to get that issue?
The Thnikkaman
Neo Member
The game doesn't run at the selected resolution when fullscreen is selected.
I.E. you'll select 1440p and the game will render at, what was it, 900p?
Seems to be a common problem, I thought it was universal
for me it seems to be a scaling thing, the resolution is correct but it scales awkwardly and made it blurry on the display, but as long as I select a desktop resolution over 1920x1080 it'll look fine, screenshots came out fine too, not sure about everyone else.
Ah okay. Maybe the screenshots can't accurately reflect the issue for whatever reason.
Borderless window mode is better anyways so I'll keep running the game that way and know for sure I'm getting the correct resolution.
I have a really similar setup (6700k at 4.3) and this sounds about the same as me so yea, I guess you gotta be rocking sli or a 1080ti/Titan for a better chance at 4k60. Glad to see my performance is similar to yours though.
TheSpoiler
Member
Man the cutscenes being choppy is killing me. Everything else runs at 60 with only a few things on low.
The Thnikkaman
Neo Member
My 1080 isn't running that quick but I'm having trouble at 1440 with the same CPU. Stuttering and very quick drops to 45-55 are common in the first non-tutorial areas. You seeing any of that?
TheChocolateWar
Member
Is anyone else getting massive input lag, or is that supposed to be how it is? Like a 2 second input lag between button and action.
The Thnikkaman
Neo Member
Agreed, that issue is super bizarre.
I wonder if it's a bad render or if it's the decoder or something? Has anyone been able to run any kind of analysis on the cutscenes?
Maybe DF will put up a video.
AceFlame
Neo Member
I have a really similar setup (6700k at 4.3) and this sounds about the same as me so yea, I guess you gotta be rocking sli or a 1080ti/Titan for a better chance at 4k60. Glad to see my performance is similar to yours though.[/QUOTE]
Think i'll wait on the GTX 1180 or whyatever they're gonna call it lol
EDIT: Im at newb at neogaf lol cant even quote right
Think i'll wait on the GTX 1180 or whyatever they're gonna call it lol
EDIT: Im at newb at neogaf lol cant even quote right
The Thnikkaman
Neo Member
Hmm, Borderless windowed I presume?
Then again my 1080 is only running at 1860MHz. I wish I knew a little more so I could push it but I don't know how to stabilize an OC for shit.
AceFlame
Neo Member
The Thnikkaman
Neo Member
Robobandit
Member
In the first area after the tutorial, I get 48 fps @ 4k w/ AA turned off on my Titan XP.. w/ a 6700k @ 4.5Ghz and 16GB of ram. might be possible to hit 60 if I turned some things down, but for the time being I'm playing in 1440p w/ 8x AA and it's locked to 60.
TheSpoiler
Member
I hope they get around to fixing it soon. Everything else runs perfect on my toaster rig that I'm surprised it's holding up.
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