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Nier: Automata PC performance thread
- Thread starter JaseC
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Yeah, i think when this all gets fixed and im playing it for reals i'll have it off. Never sure blur ever really improves anything
Apoleptica
Banned
Huge shame that the framerate can't go above 60. Also performance in general is pretty terrible for a game that isn't even that graphically intense. The textures are pretty damn ugly.
The_White_Rose
Member
Got a hard white screen freeze in the intro during the boss battle. The game seemed to run fine for me for the most part other than the cutscenes. Will shelve it for now. Hope they can fix it sooner rather than later.
I think it's the same shitty Platinum engine, but Transformers it's a small linear game.
Bayonetta 2 is their only great looking game, but runs at 720p and certainly not stable 60fps (also linear game).
capylikesgames
Banned
Yeah. And from my experience, the built-in AA hits my 1060 hard. I kind of wish we'd get an FXAA option, at least.
Does the PS4 version use any form of AA?
Chance Hale
Member
Game starts in a window, shows the logos and neat loading screen and just goes black. You can navigate the menus blindly but it crashes soon after and then steam itself crashes too. Crazy and I can't play the game at all.
The very first time I started I saw the menus but not since, and that's with reinstalling and verifying files multiple times.
capylikesgames
Banned
No drops when walking around the open world? I have a 2600 too, and I was thinking it was the CPU, but if yours doesn't give you any issues there, I'm wondering what it could be. I'm running at fullscreen (forced 900p), too. Hm.
Antilurker77
Member
I could deal with the 900p/pop-in but the stuttering cutscenes are a real deal breaker. I hope they patch this soon.
Downsampling 1.5x 1680x1050 on a GTX 1060, almost still managing 60fps lock, but get occasional areas of 45-55fps. With that in mind, I'm happier to stick with this old ass monitor's native 1680x1050 and use 8x MSAA for some sweet IQ.
Will test out other resolutions and maybe 4k for a laugh later when I can be bothered moving to the TV, for now I just want to keep playing. The game is much more fun than I was expecting even though I have no idea what is going on story-wise
Why even bother with 900p when it is utterly trivial to go arbitrary resolution? As far as the cutscenes go, so far for me I haven't actually seen any long enough to call it deal breaking, but I'll have to play some more. Several of the scenes are done in engine, and those are running flawlessly
Will test out other resolutions and maybe 4k for a laugh later when I can be bothered moving to the TV, for now I just want to keep playing. The game is much more fun than I was expecting even though I have no idea what is going on story-wise
Why even bother with 900p when it is utterly trivial to go arbitrary resolution? As far as the cutscenes go, so far for me I haven't actually seen any long enough to call it deal breaking, but I'll have to play some more. Several of the scenes are done in engine, and those are running flawlessly
My toaster specs:
i5- 3450
Radeon HD 7870 2gb with the latest drivers
8gb ram
Win10 - 64bit
and the game is installed on a SSD.
I play with a 1920x 1200 resolution in borderless window at lowest settings and get 40-50 fps.
As far as i am concerned that performance is as good as its going to get with games these days on my toaster.
CertifiedFP
Member
30FPS cutscenes are a matter of saving space.
60FPS prerendered scenes would likely weigh about twice as much, and they already make up a majority of the filesize.
hmm i guess try removing the game settings from C:\Users\Username\Documents\My Games\NieR_Automata to see if you can get your menus back, but yeah not sure what else to recommend, other than maybe try a different steam client (beta or stable), and other things like disabling overlay/etc, sounds like a weird issue.
I made a video showing some of the issues with pop in and such. If i annoy you please feel free to mute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXDhBSkZsn8
Man i REALLY want to play this, but i gotta hope they'll fix these bugs in the next few weeks, and i'd rather wait and buy it/play it properly then.
SomedayTheFire
Member
Yeah I'm getting some 1-3 frames dropping randomly in the open world but kicks back up and sticks at 60 once combat starts oddly enough.
I can just about hit 60 fps at 1080p in the first open world city part, turned off AA and motion blur and AO. Blur alone seemed to lose me about 10 fps when I switched between them. I know a 1060 can do a lot better than this so I'm gonna assume it's the engine losing it's shit when foliage is dense.
Wierd how the in engine cutscenes are still throttled to 30fps though. Even the ones that transition right into gameplay seemlessly jump from 30 to whatever
Wierd how the in engine cutscenes are still throttled to 30fps though. Even the ones that transition right into gameplay seemlessly jump from 30 to whatever
Very small drops, seems to happen only when the game is loading the next area. I think it's an engine issue. That aside, game is running really solid so far.
electroflame
Member
Quoting myself as a followup -- Reshade does indeed work if you install it as Direct3D 10+ (i.e. the dxgi.dll version). I only tested FXAA and SMAA, and they both seem to apply correctly. I didn't play around with the settings to see how far you can go with them, but injectable anti-aliasing absolutely works for those that want slightly less jaggies without the performance hit of MSAA. Might be worth adding to the OP, JaseC?
Also, it looks like you can skip the intro videos (if you really, really want to) by renaming the logo movie files in the data (i.e. data/movie_logo) directory. Renaming them to logo_01old.usm and logo_02old.usm or something similar works. They're pretty quick and not too annoying, though, so it's probably not needed unless you want to save the ~5 seconds it takes to show them.
Ps4pro version definitely has AA, it looks significantly cleaner than on standard ps4. More than what I resolution jump would do.
Dragon1893
Member
Yeah, this game needs some serious patching, what a shame.
Chance Hale
Member
Never just been unable to play a game like this before and with it being so rare I'm just at a complete loss and so frustrated. Could try reinstalling again, does the game save any files anyway even if you delete it? Just have no clue what I can do with the black screen, being unable to navigate to the settings menu to investigate, and then just having it crash.
And as I said all other games work so it's not my hardware......just at a loss and so frustrated.
And as I said all other games work so it's not my hardware......just at a loss and so frustrated.
Philtastic
Member
After 4 hours, I'd say that it's a pretty good port. My only complaints would be that the keyboard & mouse controls suck and the cutscenes are 30 fps. My DS4 controller works well using InputMapper. No noticeable bugs and running at mostly 60 fps with occasional drops at 1440p max details except no MSAA. For context, I've mostly been running around the first open area. I'm currently quite satisfied with this game and can highly recommend it if you have similar specs:
Core i5-4690K 3.5 GHz
GTX 1070
8 GB RAM
Edit: I'm using the latest Nvidia drivers (378.78)
Core i5-4690K 3.5 GHz
GTX 1070
8 GB RAM
Edit: I'm using the latest Nvidia drivers (378.78)
Peterthumpa
Member
Incredible how people with the top 5 fastest single cards on the market are saying that this is a good port because they're able to get 60 FPS @ 1440p with NO AA.
lmao, game is technically a mess, it's a freaking jagged mess even in the PS4 Pro.
lmao, game is technically a mess, it's a freaking jagged mess even in the PS4 Pro.
Cutscenes are super choppy even though my frame monitor says super steady 30fps.
Gameplay fps is solid. 60 fps with no dips on a 1080.
I'm not sure it's playing nice with my 1920x1200 monitor though. I can't render it in 1080 with bars. I wonder if I'm getting stretched.
Edit:
Ah so just the UI is stretched? I guess I can live with that. The cutscene bit is super annoying though.
Gameplay fps is solid. 60 fps with no dips on a 1080.
I'm not sure it's playing nice with my 1920x1200 monitor though. I can't render it in 1080 with bars. I wonder if I'm getting stretched.
Edit:
Ah so just the UI is stretched? I guess I can live with that. The cutscene bit is super annoying though.
Philtastic
Member
MSAA is incredibly expensive. I can't turn it on in ANY game without compromising my framerate. It also looks like there's a form of postprocess AA present since the jaggies aren't horrible.
The PS4 version can barely hold 60, it drops everywhere and is typical platinum games "60FPS"...unless you have a Pro in which case it is considerably more consistent.
FMV cutscenes are 900P as far as I remember since PS4 version is 900P and they didn't bother to do 1080P cutscenes.
Mr. Smiley
Member
Aight. Getting the refund. The crashing is too ridiculous on my end.
Philtastic
Member
Because I've never seen any notification that they actually released that out of beta nor can I find any relevant settings for it.
thanks guys
Unless there are low spec tweaks I think it's hopeless. What a shame really.
But for REALLY good games, I can wait. Like I STILL AM with ReCore.
arts&crafts
Member
worked for me. I had to update a firmware on the controller but its been a while since I used it.
Finished the tutorial. I get 60 fps locked most of the time, but during some fights it goes to low 50's. I hope framerate doesn't tank too bad when I get to the open world.
i5 4460
gtx 970
8GB
All stock. High present, AA off, 1080p.
Game is fun, only complaint is the choppy cutscenes. Sometimes they are fine, but suddenly they become very choppy for some reason.
i5 4460
gtx 970
8GB
All stock. High present, AA off, 1080p.
Game is fun, only complaint is the choppy cutscenes. Sometimes they are fine, but suddenly they become very choppy for some reason.
Yeah I take back what I said just recently, some of the cutscenes play super choppy for no reason, despite rendering at 30fps. So it is something weird for sure. The game itself is great performance wise for me.
And yeah for 16:9 folks are fine, those going wider get the ui stretched but the game renders correctly, pre-rendered cutscenes have borders I think. On narrower aspect ratios like 16:10 you get it stretch a little vertically on the UI side, but gameplay again is without issue. Those pre-rendered cutscenes are stretched on my 16:10 which is annoying but it isn't too bad since the ratio isn't all that different.
Yeah, identical. I thought it wasn't so bad till one of the scenes randomly got super choppy then back to what I would still consider odd. Then the game is right back up to 60fps.
3770k @ 4.2Ghz
980ti @ 1400Mhz - d
16GB RAM
Played roughly 2 hours. Running maxed out at 1920x1080 on my TV using the Borderless utility in the OP. The game has kept a consistent 60, cutscenes have their moments of serious slowdown, but it's honestly not a dealbreaker for me, as they've been fine 90% of the time.
Tried 4k, as expected it's a slideshow on high. Probably running 25-35 FPS with 4k/low. I'll be switching to my 27" native 1440p Gsync monitor at some point and will report back when I know how that handles it.
I've got a vanilla PS4 and had played that version on a buddies system. So far I'm glad I went with the PC version. Game looks good and has been playing with few issues. Guess we'll see if it keeps it up.
980ti @ 1400Mhz - d
16GB RAM
Played roughly 2 hours. Running maxed out at 1920x1080 on my TV using the Borderless utility in the OP. The game has kept a consistent 60, cutscenes have their moments of serious slowdown, but it's honestly not a dealbreaker for me, as they've been fine 90% of the time.
Tried 4k, as expected it's a slideshow on high. Probably running 25-35 FPS with 4k/low. I'll be switching to my 27" native 1440p Gsync monitor at some point and will report back when I know how that handles it.
I've got a vanilla PS4 and had played that version on a buddies system. So far I'm glad I went with the PC version. Game looks good and has been playing with few issues. Guess we'll see if it keeps it up.
Chance Hale
Member
The only thing I can think of is the first time I started up the game and had menus I went into the settings and changed it to fullscreen and then all the garbage started happening despite uninstalling and so on. Could someone describe the button presses need to get to that option or resolution or the location of an ini with such things? Can't think of any of solution and this is just miserable.
Can't wait to ditch this 16:10 monitor for a 16:9 one just so I know it won't be an issue. ;_;
luckygodzilla
Member
Fortunately aside from incredibly rare cutscenes stuttering, everything has been smooth sailing on my rig maxed out @1440p. I7 2700k and a 1080. Still sucks to hear about all the people struggling with the port, this game certainly deserves better.
Philtastic
Member
For those wondering how this looks without MSAA, here are two foliage-rich screenshots that I took from the first open area.
Apoleptica
Banned
This looks like a Switch game.
Robobandit
Member
it's under documents\my games\NieR Automata
it's called "Graphic.ini" just delete that and it should re-create itself when you launch next time.