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Nier: Automata PC performance thread
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xeroborn55
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Im thinking about picking this up today. Ive got a 970, 6600k, and 16gb ram. Gsync monitor at 1080p. Ill be alright? Do i need to use any of the mods floating around? I dont care to unlock the framerate.
SapphiCine
Member
Yes, you'll want the FAR mod to reduce stuttering and improve performance with the Global Illumination settings.
ThePeoplesBureau
Member
Completed my first runthrough using mods (except for ReShade), and I'm amazed how great the performance has been on my GTX 970. Prior to FAR it was a hitch-fest - and the less said about those cutscene framerates, the better - but bar the occasional minor drop for loading between areas, the mods made the game smooth as butter for me. So thanks to all those involved who helped to bring this great game to where it deserves to be, performance-wise, it really is much appreciated.
Strange, I tried both options and they seemed the same.
Slow inputs move the camera really quickly when aiming, and fast inputs move the camera really slowly.
you'll be able to max it out (except aa - set it at x2 or x4). you'll want to have the FAR fix/mod installed to have a steadily 60 fps experience at 1080p (be sure to set GI at 16 in the fix/mod - 128 is very gpu taxing).
my specs are the same as yours (except maybe cpu. my 6600k is oc'd at 4.5 ghz).
Thanks. This worked, I just needed to crank the deadzone up to almost halfway until it worked.
I'd still try calibrating it or at least check if the drift happens in the Windows control panel. Even though you were able to bypass it with the deadzone increase, that drift seems way too high to be normal so maybe it's defective.
So I finally downloaded FAR today after using borderless windows. Is the screen tearing a problem with anyone else? I'm getting really bad screen tearing even with Vsync on for some reason, also I'm not really noticing to much of a difference with GI low vs ultra at the resistance camp, is having it at low worse down the line? Considering switching from GI low 4k to 1440p GI high if it causes issues.
Yea I did the calibrating and saw the drift there too. It seems defective but at least Nier still seems perfectly playable with this deadzone increase.
Don't set GI to low unless you absolutely can't run the game otherwise. The GI-'setting' is not free performance. It's very much lowering a setting and makes the lighting look wrong in places. Even at medium (32) I've noticed a few wrong spots. I would leave it at high (64) at the very least unless you absolutely can't, considering the lighting and atmosphere genereted by it is one of the games strongest visual aspects. Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if even high did have a few problems still.
paperspace
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GhostTrick
Banned
I seen one next to the Resistance Camp. But yeah, below 64 change the lighting in some places.
The amusement park seems to be affected the most (on low at least).
I've noticed a few wrongly lit patches of grass in the city ruins with medium. Now, that's not a big deal, but it shows that something is still changing and could potentially affect other areas as well.
SapphiCine
Member
In the shadow of the building by the sewer entrance. The bridge to the shopping center and some spots in the shopping center.
Played almost all of route A with GI on low and couldn't notice any difference other than the odd brighter grass in a couple of spots (and even then I only noticed because someone pointed out with screens first). YMMV. I would say it's definitely worth the performance gains.
I tried the framerate unlock and yeah, I'm definitely not playing with that on. It feels really messy. I noticed a few different things that speed up and it makes the gameplay feel abnormal.
Game looks really good in 4k anyways. Only real major issues remaining in my opinion are the shadow mapping problems and stutters on traveling, but don't think there's anything that can be done about those. Would be cool to get an up-res on the light shafts, but it's not a big deal.
Game looks really good in 4k anyways. Only real major issues remaining in my opinion are the shadow mapping problems and stutters on traveling, but don't think there's anything that can be done about those. Would be cool to get an up-res on the light shafts, but it's not a big deal.
are you sure it's just not the AO being crappy? It's pretty low res and flicker in some areas
The AO is pretty weak in general sadly.
Are you using the GI-fix, by chance? If yes, try setting the quality higher, as lower values can break/change lighting in some spots (off is a no go).
Yes, but it ends up being really subtle and occasionally buggy. Maybe I need to find a better profile for it...
I'm currently using 0x00140000 (Lords of the Fallen). It works, it just bleeds (very slightly) through water and fog and sometimes (very rarely) it flickers on and off and don't know why. Also, it's quite weak and hard to tell that it's on, but at least it works.
Note that you'll get some weird behavior in the unit data screen. The depth buffer does not get resized with the unit models, so you'll see the AO around the picture-in-picture window of the unit you're looking at. (This, by the way, serves as a very useful way to tell that HBAO+ is actually working.) This also happens with reshade's MXAO, so it's just a quirk of the engine I think. No way to fix it aside from the devs changing the way the resizing works to include the depth buffer, and why would they care to do that?
Better AO, sure, absolutely. Though the AO algorithm used in the game is really quite good (it's SAO), it's just the resolution letting it down.
That should be easy enough to fix, but I won't have time to do that before mid-April. Maybe someone else will get to it. (In case anyone wants to give it a try: note that a 1-component 32 bit float buffer for depth is involved which is rendered to on each mip level, this one is then sampled in the main DoF pass which targets a RGBA8 buffer, and then there is a horizontal and a vertical depth-dependent blur pass on those. All these buffers are 800x450)
Anyway, I very strongly disagree about the colors. Every scene in the game looks like it's supposed to look in terms of overall lighting and color. I've seen some screenshots with ReShade or something increasing saturation, and I think they lose a lot of the very specifically designed atmosphere.
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Better AO, sure, absolutely. Though the AO algorithm used in the game is really quite good (it's SAO), it's just the resolution letting it down.
That should be easy enough to fix, but I won't have time to do that before mid-April. Maybe someone else will get to it. (In case anyone wants to give it a try: note that a 1-component 32 bit float buffer for depth is involved which is rendered to on each mip level, this one is then sampled in the main DoF pass which targets a RGBA8 buffer, and then there is a horizontal and a vertical depth-dependent blur pass on those)
Anyway, I very strongly disagree about the colors. Every scene in the game looks like it's supposed to look in terms of overall lighting and color. I've seen some screenshots with ReShade or something increasing saturation, and I think they lose a lot of the very specifically designed atmosphere.
Pfft
Yeah, I agree. The muted colors are perfect for the atmosphere the game is trying to convey. We don't need everything to be super colorful.
But hey, the beauty about PC gaming is that if you want everything to be colorful, you can do just that.
Indeed. Let's just say the textures are the weakest link in the presentation.
Yeah, I've been using ReShade to sharpen textures just a little, but no way I'm touching the colors for this game.Better AO, sure, absolutely. Though the AO algorithm used in the game is really quite good (it's SAO), it's just the resolution letting it down.
That should be easy enough to fix, but I won't have time to do that before mid-April. Maybe someone else will get to it. (In case anyone wants to give it a try: note that a 1-component 32 bit float buffer for depth is involved which is rendered to on each mip level, this one is then sampled in the main DoF pass which targets a RGBA8 buffer, and then there is a horizontal and a vertical depth-dependent blur pass on those. All these buffers are 800x450)
Anyway, I very strongly disagree about the colors. Every scene in the game looks like it's supposed to look in terms of overall lighting and color. I've seen some screenshots with ReShade or something increasing saturation, and I think they lose a lot of the very specifically designed atmosphere.
Pfft
NeoRaider
Member
I didn't say that it has to be "super colorful". But more vibrant.
I agree. Most of the textures are very low res.
I agree. Most of the textures are very low res.
Fair enough, but you can easily solve that with Reshade.
Sure. I'm saying no way. It's not supposed to be vibrant. (Outside of very specific effects and scenes, which would lose some impact if everything was more vibrant)
As heringer says, it's a PC game and everyone can play it exactly how they like, I just disagree that it should be more vibrant
DarkChronic
Member
Er, forgive my "noob"-ness, but is Kaldaien's fix mod really that easy to install? Amazing.
Thanks for all your hard work, those that helped mod this. Great, great stuff.
Thanks for all your hard work, those that helped mod this. Great, great stuff.
Yes, Just go here :
http://steamcommunity.com/app/524220/discussions/0/135512104777399045/
get the automated installer, and follow instructions.
charlequin
Banned
I'm just so happy at how much more pleasant this is to play with FAR in place. I was pretty concerned before launch about how it would run on my old 770 and on day one I was starting to wonder if buying on PC was a mistake. Now I definitely do not feel that way.
Yeah, this is one of those games where the visual style is very much intentional and I wouldn't deign to think I could improve it with wanton tweakery.
Yeah, this is one of those games where the visual style is very much intentional and I wouldn't deign to think I could improve it with wanton tweakery.
With a 970 it'll be better to leave AA off, using just the post processing AA that is included in the AO option.
I'm finding manually setting it to 48 on FAR.ini to be a good middle ground between quality and performance, though I've only reached the resistance camp, so no idea about possible side-effects afterwards.
icecold1983
Member
GhostTrick
Banned
They should've disabled the FAR framelimiter for AMD hardware. It gave me trouble and it seems to run perfectly in term of frametimes without it.
KainXVIII
Member
~55 fps on gtx 970 😔
Damnit. Bought this today. Also on a GTX780. Runs "decent" enough. However about 30 or so minutes into the game my screen just freezes. Happened twice now around the same spot. Around the time you see some birds and green for the first time. I'm guessing that's where the game opens up and you can finally save for the first time shortly after. But I couldn't. Sorely disappointed. Anything I can do?
StormBrute
Member
The FAR mod's been working great, but I'm having trouble updating it. It launches the updater when I open the game from Steam, but when I go to update the game always opens before it finishes and closes both itself and the updater.
Is there any way to manually update FAR or trigger the updater outside of launching the game?
Is there any way to manually update FAR or trigger the updater outside of launching the game?
Use specialK to uninstall it and then reinstall
Need some help guys. What are the best tweaks to achieve a 60 FPS presentation? I have tried lowering anti-aliasing and such and while I do hit 56-60 FPS, I still suffer massive drops down to 45 in certain areas or in combat. I do have ambient occlusion on and motion blur, but in my mind I should have the horsepower to run this game at 60 FPS with the eye candy. Is it poor optimization at fault? Being a Platinum game I want the smoothest frame rate. Should I try botderless full screen?
Here are my specs
3440x1440 (21:9)
Intel 4990K
32 GB RAM
GTX 1080
I have the game installed to an SSD. I have FAR patch installed too.
Here are my specs
3440x1440 (21:9)
Intel 4990K
32 GB RAM
GTX 1080
I have the game installed to an SSD. I have FAR patch installed too.
LelouchZero
Member
Did you reduce the Global Illumination setting? You can access the FAR settings with CTRL SHIFT and Backspace. Try and reduce it to 64, 32 or 16. As a result of reducing this you may see a decrease in the quality of the GI lighting.
I'll give it a try and report back.
Yeah, if that's an option, for sure.
Though if you're planning on upgrading the GPU soon, the rest of your PC is fantastic, and would easily give you a better experience.