NieR: Automata Spoiler Thread

Is it just me that loves the theme of duality in this game? Devola + Papola, 2B +9S, Robot + Androids, Adam + Eve, ect . I mean the main plot point is that the Androids and Robots need each other to evolve and survive, I just like how the idea of duality is shown throughout the game and it doesn't come off as cheesy.

Yup, this game is just everyone trying really hard to avoid loneliness lol

Thanks for all your help in the OT thread. You and the regulars there have been great. :)

No problem, glad I was able to help.
 
Having just gotten ending E this morning...reading here I think I screwed up. I played a bit of the bullet-hell credits thinking it was just a novelty and quit once it got to Square-Enix.

Was I actually supposed to try and beat the credits for the full ending?
 
Having just gotten ending E this morning...reading here I think I screwed up. I played a bit of the bullet-hell credits thinking it was just a novelty and quit once it got to Square-Enix.

Was I actually supposed to try and beat the credits for the full ending?
Yes you were.
 
Having just gotten ending E this morning...reading here I think I screwed up. I played a bit of the bullet-hell credits thinking it was just a novelty and quit once it got to Square-Enix.

Was I actually supposed to try and beat the credits for the full ending?

You missed a very emotional part of the game:P
Replay it.
 
So, today I gathered the remaining weapons and after spending a fortune for upgrades, I reached the Emil desert boss fight. Man, this was heartbreaking.
 
So, today I gathered the remaining weapons and after spending a fortune for upgrades, I reached the Emil desert boss fight. Man, this was heartbreaking.

I need to get back to that. Left the weapon % at 94. I've seen a friend beat that boss and boy am I not looking forward to hear Emil suffering.
If only papa Nier was around to give a hug.
 
Does anyone have a good handle on the Android chain of command? I saw a thing on TV Tropes that implied there were several factions controlling different parts of the Earth, but was wondering if that could be corroborated.

Also was the Moon Server just created in A2's series time, or merely the myth that there were actual humans there? It seems it'd be weird to claim that humans just suddenly appeared on the Moon some 5000 years after they'd been last seen.
 
I think it was stated that the moon installation was built during the failure of Project Gestalt, with its role in the YoRHa ruse retrofitted after the fact.
 
Does anyone have a good handle on the Android chain of command? I saw a thing on TV Tropes that implied there were several factions controlling different parts of the Earth, but was wondering if that could be corroborated.

Also was the Moon Server just created in A2's series time, or merely the myth that there were actual humans there? It seems it'd be weird to claim that humans just suddenly appeared on the Moon some 5000 years after they'd been last seen.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F7KM18848_HHlQFviGCkJbXV1M-5SKm_HnVBTzzYlDg/edit

Q45. Are there any androids above YoRHa in the chain of command who're responsible for calling the shots in the war against the machine lifeforms?
There aren't any. YoRHA, resistance members, other androids from the orbital bases, as well as the androids fighting in the kingdom of night* are all equal below the council of humanity.
*This is the region of the earth that's permanently night, which includes North and South America.
 
Well I mean, the Council of Humanity is just an automated server right? Or is it a functional AI network?

Either way, people had to institute them right? It seems bizarre that the YoRHa would be solely responsible for the organization that would then destroy them.

Uhh, I forget tbh, but I'm pretty sure it got recently revealed who came up with Project YoRHA.

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No wonder why I link Wretched Weaponry to sadness, it's the song that plays when you find Pascal by his lonesome in the destroyed village...
 
Curious, has Yoko Taro, or the developers themselves, talked more whether there'll be story content in future DLCs? I don't really need any post-E content for the main characters, but I'm interested in the androids and machines trying to make a world for themselves.


BTW, any recommendations for NeiR Expanded Universe stuff I should read first?
 
Well I mean, the Council of Humanity is just an automated server right? Or is it a functional AI network?

Either way, people had to institute them right? It seems bizarre that the YoRHa would be solely responsible for the organization that would then destroy them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nier/comments/69mrzd/niera_supplemental_materials_compilation/

Here's a good compilation of supplemental materials to the lore stuff, but for your question there's a person who setup the YorHa plan who just planned to keep it going, but there's a certain someone who installed the backdoor and created the destruction plan because he hated the fact that him and the other yorha units are made of machine core black boxes, and thus created a plan to sacrifice himself and the rest of yorha to establish a new "god".

Not fully compiled yet because it's only being translated by faithful fans who are putting in a lot of effort, but hopefully they'll get there.
 
I just realized Auguste was the robot you see in the beginning of Route B, where his brother was trying to revive him. :P

Could you spare him I wonder...
 
Memory Thorn got translated, it's a sequel to Memory Cage.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/148fzzBcSJA_loQc9KkReOImbDXNisEJ98mowLvnHkCE/edit

How delightfully twisted

That one passage ("Goodbye, 2B") demonstrates a really simple and effective way they could have shown the effect of 9S remembering his various deaths without doing a direct montage when A2 explicitly states the truth - after every storybook sequence in Route B, they'd show an animation of two figures in hacking space; one stabbing the other in the same way 2B finishes off Eve. As the route progresses; initially it's hard to discern anything's being said at all, or if the figures are even human(oid); at the very last repetition it's clearly 9S and 2B, but the setting would still make it unclear whether they're literal representations of memory or something more metaphorical.
 
Whoops... Lemme try that again.

EDIT:

Looking up videos for stuff like Operator 21O and Auguste are hilarious because the majority of people just murder them ASAP

It's sad really, one cool thing about it is that it changes the enemy unit data entry for Friedrich saying instead of:
"In the heat of battle, this unit begged for his brother's life to be spared--only to see him cut down without mercy."

You get:
"In the heat of battle, this unit begged for his brother's life to be spared-a requests A2 granted for unknown reasons."
 
It's sad really, one cool thing about it is that it changes the enemy unit data entry for Friedrich saying instead of:
"In the heat of battle, this unit begged for his brother's life to be spared--only to see him cut down without mercy."

You get:
"In the heat of battle, this unit begged for his brother's life to be spared-a requests A2 granted for unknown reasons."

Oh true...

Kind of annoyed I replayed the sequence, because nothing changed. Thought I'd get a new cutscene lol

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Welp, beat the game a 2nd time. Was nice doing all (okay, most, there were 2 I just Youtube'd) of the sidequests, and seeing all the little hints regarding the truth of 2B and 9S's relationship that I missed the first time around. Now to ponder if the DLC is worth it, and if bothering to do the last Emil sidequest is worth it...

I also see that post-credits of Route D, I see someone's sword in what appears to be the Forest Kingdom, as a tomb of sorts. Does that belong to 9S?
 
the game needs a free roam mode where you can use any character in any chapter.

or new game+.

What's the point of these DLC costumes? When you get them there is nothing left in the game to do...
 
What's the point of these DLC costumes? When you get them there is nothing left in the game to do...

Not unless you're willing to help the weak lol


Although even then, most of the scenes are pre-rendered, so the silliness of the costumes also gets neutered in that regard.
 
Going through these quests to 100% is a pain.

But Holy shit at the secret song that plays when you reunite big and little sister.

There's a bunch of "sidequest songs"

The best one is the Emil's Memories one, although that's more tied to the location. Runner up is the one that plays whenever you realize you fucked up by helping that person.
 
speaking of "helping people", that one side quest that you collect chips for that android guy that turns out he's making himself a YoRHa family and after you giving him the chips they all end up killing each other. What happens if you don't give him the chips?
 
speaking of "helping people", that one side quest that you collect chips for that android guy that turns out he's making himself a YoRHa family and after you giving him the chips they all end up killing each other. What happens if you don't give him the chips?

You need to give him the chips to complete the mission. Which sucks cause I didn't want to give him but it's not an option.
 
speaking of "helping people", that one side quest that you collect chips for that android guy that turns out he's making himself a YoRHa family and after you giving him the chips they all end up killing each other. What happens if you don't give him the chips?
If you refuse he just stay in the same place until you give him the chips.
 
There's a bunch of "sidequest songs"

The best one is the Emil's Memories one, although that's more tied to the location. Runner up is the one that plays whenever you realize you fucked up by helping that person.

As someone that got familiar with the original Nier through a crammed 2.5hr YT analysis, can I get specifics on what that particular location meant for the original gang?
 
As someone that got familiar with the original Nier through a crammed 2.5hr YT analysis, can I get specifics on what that particular location meant for the original gang?

It's where Kaine lived in the first game.
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It's her theme that plays there - she was one of the only people Emil grew close to, and the incarnation we see in this game can only vaguely remember she existed until he's on his deathbed. Restoring her house and growing the Lunar Tears around it are an attempt to reconstruct his memory of her (and Nier/Weiss by proxy), but his fragmented consciousness makes it difficult.
 
I don't know if it's right to post it here or not, but there is a full rip of the concert out there.

You can find the link on another big nier community.

I really hope they sell this on blu ray one day.

I gotta say there is a massive chinese community for this game.
 
Just finished the game:

Question, why were the YorHA around only to be killed? To what end?

Did I miss something? It seemed pretty ridiculous... Why create an elaborate time table to eventually kill off the YorHA?

If everyone is gone, who gives a shit?
 
Just finished the game:

Question, why were the YorHA around only to be killed? To what end?

Did I miss something? It seemed pretty ridiculous... Why create an elaborate time table to eventually kill off the YorHA?

If everyone is gone, who gives a shit?
yea looks like you missed quite a bit sir.

I'd offer more but it's 5am here. I'm sure someone will fill you in or slide you a good link to read over.
 
Just finished the game:

Question, why were the YorHA around only to be killed? To what end?

Did I miss something? It seemed pretty ridiculous... Why create an elaborate time table to eventually kill off the YorHA?

If everyone is gone, who gives a shit?

Because there won't be a link that can verify that the council of humanity on the moon is fake all along.

Also the androids don't actually want to end the war, so the backdoor is there so the machines can destroy YorHa if they feel sufficiently threatened.
 
There's a bunch of "sidequest songs"

The best one is the Emil's Memories one, although that's more tied to the location. Runner up is the one that plays whenever you realize you fucked up by helping that person.

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I'd say it's more that it's "meaningful" by human approximation.

It's only meaningless when we extrapolate it out and observe as third parties.

if humanity is the 'god' by which meaning is derived from then the lack of humanity means all effort in the game is meaningless since there are no humans around to give a shit about anything. however since i think we implicitly accept that both androids and to some extent machines are 'alive', then it is meaningful because there are actual entities around whose thoughts and opinions and actions we/inhabitants of the world find meaningful

...i think
 
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