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NiGHTS into Dreams HD |OT| Dreaming of snow, sparkles, and nightmares [Control patch]
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Jackle is pretty easy, as I recall. Boost just before the card impacts you, alternating between dodging high and low. Grab him, knock him out of his cloak, then grab him while he's trying to get back to it...
Been a while since I've played though.
I had a Mepian collection in one of the first levels where there was a waterfall with a small cliff overhang. Somehow got some Nightopians in there, and it was the perfect position to shoot an enemy into their midst, where it would ricochet around and hit a whole gaggle of them. Then they would breed. I had so many under there that the game slowed to an f'in crawl everytime I passed that spot.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Is this only available to gold? I get an error when trying to purchase.
NiGHTS is one of those games that, if experienced when it was first released, on it's original platform, it was unbelievable. As one other poster above stated, you "feel" the game. From the music to the story to the sense of flying (against other games of the time) it was a wholly unique, beautiful, and astonishing game. It (along with the PD series) defined the Saturn for me.
As well, the release of Christmas NiGHTS was such an extraordinary gesture for a video game company at the time. I still play that disk EVERY year (except for the next 3 1/2 years as my Saturn is touring with the Smithsonian exhibition). I may have to go purchase another Saturn just for the holidays.....
Oh, and yes. While I will purchase the game on the PS3, the PURITY of playing on the Saturn with the circle pad is just too much to ignore.
As well, the release of Christmas NiGHTS was such an extraordinary gesture for a video game company at the time. I still play that disk EVERY year (except for the next 3 1/2 years as my Saturn is touring with the Smithsonian exhibition). I may have to go purchase another Saturn just for the holidays.....
Oh, and yes. While I will purchase the game on the PS3, the PURITY of playing on the Saturn with the circle pad is just too much to ignore.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
A-ranked every stage except Splash Garden on my first attempt. Still got it after all these years.
The Marketplace listing via the console was fucked up when I tried it. Had to pick it up from Xbox.com.
GrayFoxPL
Member
It's not. Hold the analog stick and very very slowly turn in by millimeter. The real problem is that 8 ways are "sticky" and with quick movements Nights position "snaps" to default 8 ways.
60fps lol. I don't think it's even 30fps. Saturn mode runs smoother and it doesn't really look like real Saturn, it's hi res with smoothed textures. Pretty nice but way less colorful then hd version.
I'd guess the control change was intended as an improvement to help you stay in a straight line. I remember it being difficult to hit all the stars/orbs in extended straight lines at first. Now it's more difficult to adjust for hoops, smooth curves replaced by zigzags. It's a real shame there's no option for original controls.
I figured that out. It's worst trying to adjust up or down slightly when flying horizontally, nothing happens.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Analog controls felt off to me too (didn't seem possible to attain max speed for some reason), but using a digital Saturn pad on this port feels the same as what I remember it being on the Saturn itself, so I'm going to stick with that I think.
GrayFoxPL
Member
Control patch would be nice. Maybe we should complain to sega?
Was the code for controlling Nights on the Saturn so complicated?
This is spot on.
Was the code for controlling Nights on the Saturn so complicated?
GrayFoxPL
Member
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
I keep forgetting that's even possible. Thanks, I'll try that now.
Edit: It worked! Thanks for the help!
Hot Coldman
Banned
I think the benefit of the Saturn's controls is outweighed by the fact that it's the Sega Saturn.
Kasumi1970
my name is Ted
why is this game not up on XBLA?
The most ridiculous thing I have read on the web today.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Joking! It was a joke.
GrayFoxPL
Member
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Hey, that's the third best Sega console you're talking about
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
The fuck?
Hot Coldman
Banned
Phew. Crisis averted. I was about to have an aneurysm. 0_o
I know exactly what you mean about the fluidity in controls being critical to the game.
The XBLA version is the same way I'm afraid.
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
I've never played Nights, but I'll probably just get this without even trying the demo. It sounds sublime.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
Just working on A-Ranks to get Christmas Nights. Why has it to be an unlockable? :/
Well, to be fair, using a Saturn with a modern HDTV is going to produce very poor results and hurt the game more than any control issues with the HD version.
GrayFoxPL
Member
There's nothing like it. Enjoy!
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
The music is so good, GAF...
So good...
Edit: Hrm, yeah you guys are right. The controls feel kinda off.
So good...
Edit: Hrm, yeah you guys are right. The controls feel kinda off.
Strongly disagree there. At least on a decent plasma. On an LCD it can look quite nasty though.
I have a decent plasma and the Saturn looks terrible on it (which is why I only use it on a CRT display).
Seriously, the controls are fucked.
In the Saturn original (which I have here) I can 28-link the whole of Spring Valley loop 1 every single time, as I have for years, with silky precision.
In both versions included with the HD version, it's practically impossible thanks to the locked non-analogue control.
Sad they blew such an opportunity by lazily using the PS2-port gameplay code (right down the same unlock all cheat) which totally screwed the finesse of the original.
In the Saturn original (which I have here) I can 28-link the whole of Spring Valley loop 1 every single time, as I have for years, with silky precision.
In both versions included with the HD version, it's practically impossible thanks to the locked non-analogue control.
Sad they blew such an opportunity by lazily using the PS2-port gameplay code (right down the same unlock all cheat) which totally screwed the finesse of the original.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
How do I attain the Dreamy acrobat rating, GAF?
I'd rather play the Saturn game again in spite of a blurry mess on screen. This snapping into up/down/left/right ruins it. It's playable, but not as good.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
I don't know it patching the controls is entirely possible given they are probably inherited from the PS2 version. I guess it all depends on how the game was ported - how much emulation is used versus being a real port? Is there a reason the controls weren't right in the PS2 version?
The Spoony Hou
Member
I almost bought this blindly... But of course Sega had to fuck it up. I'll wait for a discount.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
After entering the yellow/blue ring press LT then RT, repeat or L2 then R2 on PS3.
It's not fucked up, it's just not perfect. Man it's 10 bucks.
U n i o n 0015
Member
Yeah, gotta say the more I play it the less I enjoy it. It's really frustrating--I try to line the character up to get a row of orbs and I can't make any minute adjustments or else he will completely change trajectory.
In the Saturn version, the fluid nature of the controls made you want to keep playing. This just makes me frustrated!
Wow, it's that bad huh?
I haven't actually tried it, but I didn't realize it was that severe. I'll definitely download the demo and see.
I have actually never played Nights. I tried to buy a Saturn back in the day and won one on eBay but the guy said he tested it and it didn't work before sending it off so I never went through with getting one. I'll probably end up waiting til the Steam sale and buying this for PC later this year. Pretty excited to play it but just too much on my plate right now with FIFA and BL2.
Edit: Shame to hear about the apparent poorish controls but I won't mind as much if I get it for $5.
Edit: Shame to hear about the apparent poorish controls but I won't mind as much if I get it for $5.
The Spoony Hou
Member
"Not perfect" means "not at full price" for me.
UnlovedJew
Member
So is everyone saying that the controls are stiff? Like NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams stiff? Or just a feeling like they are not as tight as the original?
BlazeHedgehog
Member
XBLA version's still downloading for me by in my experience the PS2 version was definitely a little "Journey of Dreams stiff".
Hot Coldman
Banned
Someone will probably mod the PC version to work with those USB Saturn controllers. This game seems to have dedicated enough fans for that to happen.
UnlovedJew
Member
Well, I hope they attempt to patch it or something. Not that I couldn't tolerate JoD, but the controls did take away a bit from the experience as a whole.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
10 is not a full price :> But instead of supporting sega, just give 'em the boots.