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Nintendo 3DS Japanese Launch Thread

MooMoo

Member
Smision said:
You won't get the full $75 this way. When you want to "renew" your trade-in, you have to start a whole new trade-in-- which means you go to the product page and hit the trade-in button for whatever value they have up. You can't continuously hold on to the old trade in value after it drops. Each one is a separate trade-in...there's no way to renew the one.

unless you know something I don't know about the system, in that case tell me. :)

I knew I worded it sort of weird, so I'll try to reword it a little. Lets say I submit my ticket for trading in my DSi today. The current trade-in price is $75. Amazon gives me one week to fulfill this trade-in before they cancel the ticket/won't accept my DSi. However, lets say tomorrow Amazon drops the DSi trade-in price to $50. By Amazon's policy (I asked their CS reps about this too just to confirm), as long as I mail in my DSi within a week from the day I submitted the initial ticket, they will honor the $75 trade-in value, simply because my ticket was created before the trade-in price dropped. However, once this week is over, then yes, if I were to resubmit a trade-in ticket, then I would be getting back $50 instead of $75. So my intent is every week, after each ticket expires, I'll submit a new ticket for trade-in. My hope is that Amazon keeps the $75 DSi resell value until the May update that allows DSiWare-to-3DS software transferal. However, the moment the trade-in value drops, I'll go ahead and trade-in my DSi because the one week shipping time thingamajig guarantees I'll get $75 back and not a penny lower. Remember, it's the fact that A) Amazon honors the trade-in value that was present on the day you created your ticket and B) Amazon gives you a week to fulfill your trade-in/shipment that makes this work out right. And just to reiterate again, these two facts combined means I can retain the $75 trade-in price for up to one week, regardless of what happens to the pricing during the week. That way, I at least have a chance of retaining my DSiWare instead of straight out trading it in right now and losing it all. Hopefully that made a little more sense haha. Like I said before, it's a bit of a hassle, but I don't mind the trouble =P
 
richisawesome said:
I guarantee after launch, when we are TOTALLY sold out (we're nearing there on preorders alone), people will rush in.

'Have you got any 3DS's in stock? My son desperately wants one!'

'Did you preorder?'

'No.'

'Then good luck finding one. Oh, and I've got one. It's awesome'.

what store do you work at? just curious if major retailers are starting to get close to selling out their pre-order allotment.


MooMoo said:
I knew I worded it sort of weird, so I'll try to reword it a little. Lets say I submit my ticket for trading in my DSi today. The current trade-in price is $75. Amazon gives me one week to fulfill this trade-in before they cancel the ticket/won't accept my DSi. However, lets say tomorrow Amazon drops the DSi trade-in price to $50. By Amazon's policy (I asked their CS reps about this too just to confirm), as long as I mail in my DSi within a week from the day I submitted the initial ticket, they will honor the $75 trade-in value, simply because my ticket was created before the trade-in price dropped. However, once this week is over, then yes, if I were to resubmit a trade-in ticket, then I would be getting back $50 instead of $75. So my intent is every week, after each ticket expires, I'll submit a new ticket for trade-in. My hope is that Amazon keeps the $75 DSi resell value until the May update that allows DSiWare-to-3DS software transferal. However, the moment the trade-in value drops, I'll go ahead and trade-in my DSi because the one week shipping time thingamajig guarantees I'll get $75 back and not a penny lower. Remember, it's the fact that A) Amazon honors the trade-in value that was present on the day you created your ticket and B) Amazon gives you a week to fulfill your trade-in/shipment that makes this work out right. And just to reiterate again, these two facts combined means I can retain the $75 trade-in price for up to one week, regardless of what happens to the pricing during the week. That way, I at least have a chance of retaining my DSiWare instead of straight out trading it in right now and losing it all. Hopefully that made a little more sense haha. Like I said before, it's a bit of a hassle, but I don't mind the trouble =P

ok, i see what you mean now
 

B.K.

Member
The 3DS won't be that hard to find. It's launching in March, not November. There's no reason for Nintendo to hold stock back this time.
 

Rich!

Member
Smision said:
what store do you work at? just curious if major retailers are starting to get close to selling out their pre-order allotment.

It's getting very very close. Especially with the advertising campaign ramping up from Nintendo, I am expecting 80% to 90% of so of the allocation to be out on preorders alone. That's like...not many left, at all. It's obviously quite a large number left BUT - will most customers get them at their local stores, at launch? Not bloody likely.

Unless they're clever and have preordered. Like moi and my mates. Yesss.
 

Pavaloo

Member
Just pre-ordered me a black system with Pilot Wings and Street Fighter. :D

My body is ready.

edit: Does anyone know the limit stores have for pre-orders? The EB Games/Gamestop I went to said they already had 90 pre-orders and haven't been told to stop yet. I'm just curious what the cap (if there is one) is.
 
I just read that the included 2GB SD card is already inserted into the system when you buy it... maybe you guys are confusing that capacity with the internal memory?

Or do you actually have 4GB available? 2GB SD card and 2GB internal.


Edit: Nevermind. I just read at Wikipedia that in fact, it has 2GB of internal memory plus the 2GB SD card.

Guys, sorry for doubting you. =(
 
Anyone with a Japanese 3DS know how easy it is to transfer contents off the SD card to a new SD card? Can you easily get everything off it or is there going to be some hassle? I'm trying to figure out if I wanna upgrade the SD card now or later.
 

jonezer4

Member
Neuromancer said:
Huh? Green? Does it look different in real life or is this guy crazy?

I just threw some pictures in paint for a scientific analysis. Grabbed pixel color in 3 different areas on the face and averaged.

R: 21
G: 125
B: 152

Blue is the winner.
 
jonezer4 said:
I just threw some pictures in paint for a scientific analysis. Grabbed pixel color in 3 different areas on the face and averaged.

R: 21
G: 125
B: 152

Blue is the winner.
Thank you, and thank science.

Marty Chinn said:
Anyone with a Japanese 3DS know how easy it is to transfer contents off the SD card to a new SD card? Can you easily get everything off it or is there going to be some hassle? I'm trying to figure out if I wanna upgrade the SD card now or later.
I would like to know this as well.
 

angelfly

Member
Marty Chinn said:
Anyone with a Japanese 3DS know how easy it is to transfer contents off the SD card to a new SD card? Can you easily get everything off it or is there going to be some hassle? I'm trying to figure out if I wanna upgrade the SD card now or later.
When I changed SD cards I just copied everything from the old card to my computer and then to the new card. Everything worked fine.
 
B.K. said:
The 3DS won't be that hard to find. It's launching in March, not November. There's no reason for Nintendo to hold stock back this time.
The Wii was hard to find for the entire year after its launch. I could easily see that happening again with this, once they get marketing going and demo's out where people can play with them. Especially with the more complicated manufacturing process, they probably won't be able to crank them out as quickly as past machines.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
B.K. said:
Because Nintendo was holding back stock to make a shortage.

This makes absolutely no sense.
 
Some quick questions about the game saving situation, apologies if already answered:

Games save directly to the SD card, yes? Do you have the option within games to save to internal memory instead? (Or do I have it backwards, it saves to internal and you have the option to save to SD?)

Do you have the ability to transfer all types of data between SD and internal, same as on the Wii, or are they keeping either storage location "pure" of game saves, mp3s etc. for whatever reason?
 
B.K. said:
Because Nintendo was holding back stock to make a shortage.
This quote from Reggie in 2008 makes it seem like that was not the case at all.
Besides being infuriated with leaving over a billion dollars on the table this past holiday season, Nintendo of America is also "passionately upset about the lack of product relative to demand." Those words came straight from Mr. Reggie Fils-Aime himself, who noted that North America was the only Wii-serviced territory where supply and demand were still out of sync. Reportedly, some 40-percent of the 1.8 million Wii consoles manufactured each month are making their way over, but even after 17 months on the market, the average Wii sits around on retail shelves for "just an hour before [it is] purchased."
http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/24/nintendo-passionately-upset-about-wii-shortages-wont-give-ou/
 
I could see them holding stock back around launch to make sure they had what appeared to be a steady supply, so there wouldn't be like a month with no sales because they couldn't manufacture them fast enough, but no sane company would hold back stock to create a shortage. First year sales for a new system are very important, especially for a system with experimental controls that must be tried out personally.
 
Neuromancer said:
That seems like a stupid business maneuver. Why effectively lose money to people scalping systems on eBay for ridiculous prices?

Plinko said:
This makes absolutely no sense.

It may sound stupid but that's because we're thinking too logically (much like the "just lower the price and sell so much more!" opinion we often see of many things).

This deliberate shortage makes sense for two reasons, one would be if a company is pleased with their performance and wants to hold off on sales for the next quarter (or year or whatever other goal they have). Second is two fold; first you create a ton of buzz and chaos around your product and company where people don't stop talking and thinking of your product and second you stretch the hype to last much longer than it would have if everyone who wanted one could go in, buy one and go home happy. You don't get tons of coverage from that; that is not a story. It's nice to keep people talking (or begging) in this world of social media and stockholders.

edit 1:
Neuromancer said:
This quote from Reggie in 2008 makes it seem like that was not the case at all.


http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/24/nintendo-passionately-upset-about-wii-shortages-wont-give-ou/

Would we expect anyone in Nintendo to say, "Yeah it was deliberate. Sometimes we have to be mean and put marketing before the customers. Sorry!"? I don't know (or care) if they did but there's no way to know.

edit 2:
I wasn't commenting on it being true or not, just if people didn't understand why any company would want to not sell their product. It does sound crazy.
 
jonnybryce said:
It may sound stupid but that's because we're thinking too logically (much like the "just lower the price and sell so much more!" opinion we often see of many things).

This deliberate shortage makes sense for two reasons, one would be if a company is pleased with their performance and wants to hold off on sales for the next quarter (or year or whatever other goal they have). Second is two fold; first you create a ton of buzz and chaos around your product and company where people don't stop talking and thinking of your product and second you stretch the hype to last much longer than it would have if everyone who wanted one could go in, buy one and go home happy. You don't get tons of coverage from that; that is not a story. It's nice to keep people talking (or begging) in this world of social media and stockholders.
Well it's one thing to suggest such a thing as an interesting conspiracy theory (we do it all the time here); it's another thing to present it as fact with nothing to back it up.
 
poweld said:
Guys, there's also a truly limited supply of diamonds out there. DeBeers said so.
This is the same argument as "well of course we've contacted aliens, you'd expect the government to say we haven't in order to protect us."

"Of course there's an abundance of oil for the foreseeable future, you'd expect the middle east to say we're running out so they can increase the price."

"Of course the world is fine, you'd expect scientists to make up global warming for more funding."
 
Nintendo has been accused of creating "artificial shortages to increase hype/demand" since the N64 days and perhaps well before. I still remember the story about it in some UK gaming magazine when the N64 had just launched in Japan/USA. I don't believe any of it was ever remotely proven though, probably just people typically hating on Nintendo.

Naked Snake said:
What exactly are the SSFIV figures? Are they 3D polygonal character models that you can look at in a sort of a gallery (like Super Smash Bros.)?

Can anyone answer the above for me please? And if there any screenshots of what they look like (I tried google, all I got were action figure toys). Thanks!
 

blu

Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Neuromancer said:
Huh? Green? Does it look different in real life or is this guy crazy?
I think the term is color-blind.

But the 3DS color everybody keeps calling '(aqua) blue' is actually turquoise.
 

GDGF

Soothsayer
Naked Snake said:
Nintendo has been accused of creating "artificial shortages to increase hype/demand" since the N64 days and perhaps well before.

Well before is right! I remember seeing a documentary about the NES phenomenon on 20/20 where they accused Nintendo of the same thing. This was back in 1988 I believe.


Oh, and you can see some figures in the debut trailer. Starts about 0.58 I believe...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpVK5iJlNQs
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
The green/blue thing is a Japan thing - they have different "versions" on what is blue and what is green to them.
 
The Lamonster said:
Think Amazon will eventually offer release-day delivery in the US?

Not on Sundays... at least they should deliver the 3DS on Saturday (one day earlier). The system is going to be released on Sunday... that means we are going to get the 3DS until Tuesday, at minimum.
 
Fernando Rocker said:
Not on Sundays... at least they should deliver the 3DS on Saturday (one day earlier). The system is going to be released on Sunday... that means we are going to get the 3DS until Tuesday, at minimum.
What kind of shipping are you guys doing?
 
Fernando Rocker said:
Not on Sundays... at least they should deliver the 3DS on Saturday (one day earlier). The system is going to be released on Sunday... that means we are going to get the 3DS until Tuesday, at minimum.

I'm surprised, yet not, and sad that they can't ship it out on Friday for a Monday arrival. I keep wondering if I should pay the $25 premium to get it on Sunday, but my brain tells me that's almost another game.

malingenie said:
Today I splooged and spent 4$ for 1 day (prime).

Ya, but if you get games too, that would be $4 per game, otherwise you have to wait till Wednesday for those.
 
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