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“Trans activists” often think they can say and do what they want, and everyone has to sit back and go along with it or else.
Their intimidation tactics aren't surprising.
They’re degenerates.
“Trans activists” often think they can say and do what they want, and everyone has to sit back and go along with it or else.
Their intimidation tactics aren't surprising.
what if a giant cock is the ultimate final destination?
Honk Honk!Letting the loonies that give trans folks a bad name control the narrative by filling every possible avenue with propaganda? No ta.
If you give people a power to create anything they want, they will make porn, and dongs, a lot of dongs.
There were also many, many penis stages
Because Nintendo allowed it to happen by adding a Stage Builder - especially with no security nor censorship.I think the bigger question here is 'why are Smash players putting Trans propaganda in a videogame for children?'
Pickle Rick is awesome.Tt reminded me of this when it comes to muricans just throwing politics and social commentary everywhere:
I assume it's cherry-picked and overblown but still leave a sour taste in mouth.
PS. PickleRick is right.
This is actually a pretty good alternative as well.OK, here's come an unpopular opinion, but: I don't like any type of censorship, it's harmful for all.
Are there people which buy Smash, and they can only think in talking about political trash? Go ahead.
Are there people which buy Smash, and only wants to slam dicks in their faces, or in Palutenas crotch? Go ahead too, dude!
The only thing Nintendo needs to do is to give us, the community, ways to block, silence, dodge... What we don't want to see in our feeds.
If someone buy a game to spread some political agenda, is because they feel so oppressed in their victimismo that need to push it to the rest of the world. Let them be, and we will find them bored of it.
OK, here's come an unpopular opinion, but: I don't like any type of censorship, it's harmful for all.
Are there people which buy Smash, and they can only think in talking about political trash? Go ahead.
Are there people which buy Smash, and only wants to slam dicks in their faces, or in Palutenas crotch? Go ahead too, dude!
The only thing Nintendo needs to do is to give us, the community, ways to block, silence, dodge... What we don't want to see in our feeds.
If someone buy a game to spread some political agenda, is because they feel so oppressed in their victimismo that need to push it to the rest of the world. Let them be, and we will find them bored of it.
Anything goes huh? A game played mostly by children. Let's allow political agenda pushing, pornographic imaging, Nazi or KKK hate speech, messaging glorifying suicide for children/young teens.
Down with all censorship. Even that done from anonymous people with bad intentions.
Nintendo is deleting what it deems inappropriate Super Smash Bros. Ultimate stages
As row over removal of a trans rights level intensifies.
As expected, Nintendo is moving to delete what it deems inappropriate user-generated Super Smash Bros. Ultimate levels after the stage creator feature went live earlier this week.
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Most of the content currently being hauled offline is as you'd expect - soon after the stage creator feature went live, many stages featuring Swastikas and other racist and offensive imagery were uploaded.
There were also many, many penis stages, some of which ended up on the front page of the official Nintendo Switch app, as Eurogamer reported.
For that story, Eurogamer social media whizz Paul Watson commandeered the Nintendo Switch belonging to Gamer Network tech supremo Thomas Marchant to create a stage inspired by the "Double Dick Dude" from reddit.
Now, Marchant has seen the level pulled from the game, and he received a strongly-worded email from Nintendo warning against the use of "obscene and/or sexual expressions".
But some of Nintendo's moderation decisions have courted a good deal of controversy. It appears stages either titled "Trans Rights" or featuring the trans flag run the risk of deletion - and in some cases their creators were issued short-term bans.
Twitter user Warm Safflina received an email from Nintendo notifying her that her trans rights stage had been pulled offline for "inappropriate and/or harmful content".
She said a Nintendo customer support rep later explained the level was removed because it was considered a "political statement", and revealed her account was suspended for nine hours.
Nintendo has come under fire for this takedown, with many pointing out the "trans rights" message should not be considered a political statement, although based on the company's stubborn protectiveness of its family-friendly brand, perhaps this takedown shouldn't come as much of a surprise.
But Nintendo's moderation policy appears to be scattershot at best. While Warm Safflina's stage was deleted, many other stages featuring the trans flag remain available to download and play. Marchant has had a look at Super Smash Bros. Ultimate this morning, and reports a search for "trans" returns between 70 and 80 trans rights stages still online.
Meanwhile, Nintendo's cleanup of the created stages available to download for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate may be a battle it can never win.
"I searched 'dick' and there are some but it looks like they've been removing them," Marchant added, "but I could still see the one tied to my account and was able to re-download it. Didn't find any for Nazi/Swastika type stuff. There was one of two people having sex on the main screen. I went back to the home screen and found a Ugandan Knuckles and Pepe as well. There's more appearing all the time it seems, and they're not all new or anything."
Perhaps Nintendo is struggling to keep up with the mammoth moderation task it faces with the hugely popular Super Smash Bros. Ultimate? Or, perhaps Nintendo hasn't yet issued its moderators a clear policy on trans rights levels, so we're getting decisions that seem out of place.
For now, what we do know is uploading Super Smash Bros. Ultimate stages with obviously offensive content could get you in trouble with Nintendo. You have been warned.
Source: Eurogamer
Because Nintendo allowed it to happen by adding a Stage Builder - especially with no security nor censorship.
A lot of people in here want to be like "oh please think of the children", yet they are praising Nintendo for dealing with a problem that shouldn't have occurred in the first place.
I was checking maps earlier today. I found shitposts as literal as lucario’s asshole, a map that just says nigger, a swastika, some more dumb hentai crap and even a burning Notre Dame.Code of Conduct? Check... Users barred from posting content which could be discomforting to others(what does discomfort means in this case? Bah...)? Check...
I wonder how Sony is managing to censor games they do not even own...
I was checking maps earlier today. I found shitposts as literal as lucario’s asshole, a map that just says nigger, a swastika, some more dumb hentai crap and even a burning Notre Dame.
This isn’t Nintendo silencing their fans voices, this is just taking out the trash a la reporting emblems in CoD games.
Huge difference between Sony censoring sexual things in M/T rated games and Nintendo removing levels for saying nigger, having hentai or nazi imagery in a fucking KIDS GAME. How much of a Sony fanboy do you have to be to act like this shit is even remotely the same? Fuck Sony and their censorship. Owned PS1, 3, PRO, PSP and will not buy a PS5.One could argue that Sony is doing the same and user generated content is not much different than developers generated content and the platform holder preferring not to opt on optional filters and have to bear the blunt of the blame for people not being protected, etc... “think of the children and all that”... Nintendo is censoring their fans creation...
Do they have the rights? If you believe so, you may need to rethink your stance on Sony’s alleged “shift”... if you disagree with Sony then you may have to concede to parallels here... the third choice of sticking your finger in the ears and shouting “lalalaalala” is also valid and believe me understandable from a cognitive dissonance point of view (which can happen to anyone), no offence meant really.
Edit: I am not sure it is impossible to find people that would find a burning Notre Dame more offensive than some of the imaginary that Sony is supposed to have censored... (not that I agree, but that is not the point).
Actually there is a difference, developers typically try to take a neutral stance to not offend either party to maximize profits. As for things like this or CoD’s Emblem creator: As long anonymity exists, people will abuse creator content.One could argue that Sony is doing the same and user generated content is not much different than developers generated content and the platform holder preferring not to opt on optional filters and have to bear the blunt of the blame for people not being protected, etc... “think of the children and all that”... Nintendo is censoring their fans creation...
Do they have the rights? If you believe so, you may need to rethink your stance on Sony’s alleged “shift”... if you disagree with Sony then you may have to concede to parallels here... the third choice of sticking your finger in the ears and shouting “lalalaalala” is also valid and believe me understandable from a cognitive dissonance point of view (which can happen to anyone), no offence meant really.
Edit: I am not sure it is impossible to find people that would find a burning Notre Dame more offensive than some of the imaginary that Sony is supposed to have censored... (not that I agree, but that is not the point).
Actually there is a difference, developers typically try to take a neutral stance to not offend either party to maximize profits. As for things like this or CoD’s Emblem creator: As long anonymity exists, people will abuse creator content.
I’ll bitch at Sony for unneccesary censorship of things that other platform holders don’t (like the initial launch of DMC5) which, btw is a night day difference when compared to Nintendo censoring a map that’s offensive just for the sake of it (like the nigger map) but it’s not like I won’t chew out Nintendo for the same shit. I’ve said multiple times I bitched at Nintendo and Bandai for replacing swords with sticks in dragon ball fusions.
Huge difference between Sony censoring sexual things in M/T rated games and Nintendo removing levels for saying nigger, having hentai or nazi imagery in a fucking KIDS GAME. How much of a Sony fanboy do you have to be to act like this shit is even remotely the same? Fuck Sony and their censorship. Owned PS1, 3, PRO, PSP and will not buy a PS5.
I was checking maps earlier today. I found shitposts as literal as lucario’s asshole, a map that just says nigger, a swastika, some more dumb hentai crap and even a burning Notre Dame.
This isn’t Nintendo silencing their fans voices or even unneccesary censorship. this is just taking out the trash a la reporting emblems in CoD games.
OK, here's come an unpopular opinion, but: I don't like any type of censorship, it's harmful for all.
Are there people which buy Smash, and they can only think in talking about political trash? Go ahead.
Are there people which buy Smash, and only wants to slam dicks in their faces, or in Palutenas crotch? Go ahead too, dude!
The only thing Nintendo needs to do is to give us, the community, ways to block, silence, dodge... What we don't want to see in our feeds.
If someone buy a game to spread some political agenda, is because they feel so oppressed in their victimismo that need to push it to the rest of the world. Let them be, and we will find them bored of it.
I would not call this censorship. I know it's difficult to draw the line between censorship and "not complying to the rules of the creation tool" but it needs to be clarified so we don't mix up two different topics.
If you create a game for which you want a certain mood and target audience you cannot allow content that opposes to that. If we were talking about this tool on a GTA game, that would be different. It would be censorship in that case, because on a place where adult topics are permitted they would be banning particular ones that don't match with their personal vision or ideology. But we are talking about Smash, a game which target is : family, kids, hardcore Nintendo fans. Sexual or political content is absolutely pointless in this environment.
It's like going dressed to a nude beach. They are not censoring you, it's just that you have to respect the minimum rules of participation.
What if you have an online store and a platform where you want to limit the extreme content your target audience is exposed to? What if that extreme content for you is anything you deem extremely sexual and/or potentially objectifying?
Once you agree with that then it is really either committing to using only standard bodies like ESRB and/or CERO or risking that with time as the people inside these companies change (MS will change too in a few years as the new policies announced by Nadella will shape hiring practices, promotions, and genera career development: https://qz.com/work/1595743/microsoft-is-overhauling-how-it-investigates-hr-investigations/).
I think the complaints with Sony are too broad and overblown, but essentially you are reacting not to the policing itself but how it is done... that is the tricky and slippery slope part of it which does rob people who complain of the moral superiority standing point a bit IMHO.
Where were you when Nintendo HAD to censor a feather pixel from Mr. Game and Watch and a revealing attire from a character in this game because the usual suspects threw a fit?
? I am not saying I would agree with them, but see Nintendo “had to censors” vs “SJW nutter Sony censors...”.
Yes, had because Nintendo had both the outfit and the feather pixel in the game for release and then patched them out because some snowflaked complained.
What if you have an online store and a platform where you want to limit the extreme content your target audience is exposed to? What if that extreme content for you is anything you deem extremely sexual and/or potentially objectifying?
Once you agree with that then it is really either committing to using only standard bodies like ESRB and/or CERO or risking that with time as the people inside these companies change (MS will change too in a few years as the new policies announced by Nadella will shape hiring practices, promotions, and genera career development: https://qz.com/work/1595743/microsoft-is-overhauling-how-it-investigates-hr-investigations/).
I think the complaints with Sony are too broad and overblown, but essentially you are reacting not to the policing itself but how it is done... that is the tricky and slippery slope part of it which does rob people who complain of the moral superiority standing point a bit IMHO.
I'm curious though where Nintendo draws the line. I mean, a poster mentioned Splatoon 2, but even further back with Splatoon 1 I swear like 70-80% of players in the lobby had the phrase "the only thing better than Splatoon is Communism" above them. " Sure, it's a meme/joke, but if Nntendo's got a zero tolerance policy towards politics why was that seemingly ignored? I mean, maybe there were responding to it but it didn't seem to be doing much good from what I saw.
I agree the complaints with Sony are exaggerated by the fact of being Sony and they don't take into account something that is crucial: Sony is the one console manufacturer with more unique / diversed japanese games, games you only see on PC, sexual or not. So, what these harsh critics on Sony don't say is that neither Nintendo nor Microsoft are getting a ton of japanese games that Sony does and in a way that is censorship too, far worse than putting some rays on a chick's ass.
Anyway, censorship has to do with political movements in the western countries so it's not a Sony thing either. If people had not given that much power to some groups now we wouldnt be discussing censorship on games, mangas, animes, etc. But thats a bigger discussion than this about Smash or Sony.
Replying to your question: Yes, I think that if you have an online store where you let EVERY DEVELOPER sell their games, you are censoring if you remove some of the games based on ideological or political reasons. However, it's not the same if you create a game (that is YOUR vision) and then some users within the community fuck up the purpose of the game. You are entitled to defend not only your product but the other users that want to enjoy the game as it was intended.
I could totally see someone like Kotaku’s Laura Kate Dale creating one of these, reporting it to Nintendo, then writing an outrage-bait article about it when it gets taken down.Wouldn't even be shocked if youtubers made these stages just to make outrage video's about it and cash in on it.
I get why having silly levels is funny - in theory. HAHA dicks and stuff, I get why its funny.
It's not funny when you have children playing. Stop ruining everything that is good in the world, there are other places to spread negative energy.
Sony is unto that in Dreams, but it's easy because with created content, there must be moderation....It's easy because people will easily report what they think and know to be offensive.......They should ban people making this shitty stuff on a family-friendly platform. it's pretty disgusting, actually. On the other hand, it's depressing how many idiots are in the world.
I hope Dreams is not widely hampered by this kind of stuff.