StereoVsn
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What partnership? Genki didn't have an NDA (according to them), took a few guesses and maybe insider info and 3D printed the console. And as to the name, yeah, that was tough to guess for sure…
Nintendo is suing the accessory manufacturer that showed off Switch 2 early
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kevboard
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there is no partnership.
the Switch 2's entire design schematics leaked, Genki used them to demonstrate their peripherals.
at the time Genki showed their stuff the entire system was basically already public knowledge.
hell we knew the exact SoC since 2023.
the first factory prototype images leaked 8 months ago and were all 100% on point.
these here are 8 months old:
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Generic
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Wait, MK World has no adventure mode? What's the purpose of the open-world then? Why is the game even $80?
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reinking
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I might not be playing with them this generation.
Power Pro
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Sebastian1295
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I'm almost positive that all you can do in that giant open world is take photos with friends and complete easy challenges that are insanely simple to beat. They showed off some of it in that mario kart world direct and it looked insanely easy and insanely boring and besides doing those 2 things there's absolutely nothing in the open world. There's no story mode/adventure mode at all like diddy kong racing.
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Majukun
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well of course they were, but they also signed no nda according to them, so no idea what legal ground they might have
NDAs are limited in scope, otherwise nintendo or any other company would just make you sign a perpetual one and never had to do it again
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Robb
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Unless Nintendo did some major screw up with their NDA's (which Genki say they never signed anyway iirc) this is definitely on Genki.
If they didn't get the info from Nintendo and signed a NDA, they've got it from somewhere else.
Of course revealing another company's secrets will get you into legal trouble. Anyone thinking Sony/MS wouldn't be doing the same if Genki revealed every design feature of the Ps6 and NextBox at public trade shows before any official reveal are kidding themselves.
If they didn't get the info from Nintendo and signed a NDA, they've got it from somewhere else.
Of course revealing another company's secrets will get you into legal trouble. Anyone thinking Sony/MS wouldn't be doing the same if Genki revealed every design feature of the Ps6 and NextBox at public trade shows before any official reveal are kidding themselves.
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BlackTron
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If Nintendo doesn't send their lawyers to fix Donkey Kong I'm going to be pissed...
And there it is.
"We are just a little company being bullied."
"Please support us as we fight the man!"
"Give us money!!"
Completely done on purpose to ride the backlash and garner support from reactionary internet morons. Once it worked for Palworld others were obviously going to try it.
Mozza
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Why do we always seem to focus on the reasons why Nintendo should not sue people/companies. Rather than suggesting that those said people/companies would not be getting into trouble in the first place if they did not seek attention. This seems like a stupid move from Genki to be honest.
Topher
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What are you quoting? They never asked for money. That is as about a standard a twitter response as you are going to ever see.
Topher
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Worse than that for them, they didn't leak anything, they made up false information while using Nintendo's branding.
TheInfamousKira
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Wiiu...Nintendo getting Nintendo-Ultra-Instinct this gen.
lakitu1982
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Genki decided to push on Nintendo, they knew there would likely be repucussions but chose to try to get an advantage over their competitors. Honestly I think it does harm Nintendo. A little bit. It's Nintendo's right to protect their products. Couldn't see Valve doing this though.
Tams
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Valve would have to actually create something substantially popular and new for a start...
Topher
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According to Nintendo
Topher
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Musashipan
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Good
Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
They took advantage of it. I think Nintendo is probably gonna win. Maybe there would be no lawsuit if Genki had not taken advantage.there is no partnership.
the Switch 2's entire design schematics leaked, Genki used them to demonstrate their peripherals.
at the time Genki showed their stuff the entire system was basically already public knowledge.
hell we knew the exact SoC since 2023.
the first factory prototype images leaked 8 months ago and were all 100% on point.
these here are 8 months old:
Topher
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Nobody will win. It will be settled.
kevboard
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taking advantage of case dimensions to build stuff that clips onto these dimensions is not violating anything. this is a frivolous lawsuit that Nintendo tries to win by brute force aka. expensive lawyers.
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Kataploom
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I don't get the "they deserve it because they took too long to reveal" comments, like why would they accommodate to people's anxiety and not follow their own schedule? Lol.
Now remember this is not against individuals posting fanarts bases on the leaked mockup, but a company, a Nintendo partner, trying to take advantage of an illegally gotten model for early marketing their products, one could say they could be that stupid but they were lol
Now remember this is not against individuals posting fanarts bases on the leaked mockup, but a company, a Nintendo partner, trying to take advantage of an illegally gotten model for early marketing their products, one could say they could be that stupid but they were lol
StereoVsn
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What illegally gotten model? Specs and dimensions leaked and looks like Genki 3D printed some stuff.
They didn't have an NDA, they didn't reveal anything that wasn't leaked all over either. This is Nintendo flexing on a small business to scare the rest.
What's the Chinese idiom, "Kill the chicken to scare the monkey"? That's all Nintendo is doing here and all the corporate bootlicking in the thread is kind of surprising.
Tams
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"Shortly after this, Genki CEO Edawrd Tsai "personally showed off the 3D-printed mockups and stated to different reporters that Genki had or had access to an authentic "Switch 2," on which Genki based the mockups, renderings, and 3D-printed mockups," according to the suit."
Try reading the article next time.
Topher
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Nothing there says it was "illegally gotten"
StereoVsn
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Yeah and if you think Genki had access to actual Switch 2, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell to you.
Topher
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And we can't take any of this at face value. These are claims being put forth by Nintendo's lawyers. This is not objective truth, by any stretch.
Kataploom
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These are corporate assets being stolen and used without authorization, that's like saying emulators developed with stolen official devkits should be legal, or the recently stopped Wii homebrew channel lol.
I mean, one thing is to do a couple memes or fanarts and post it on the internet and other completely different is using leaked model to have illegitimate advantage over competition even sabotaging marketing campaign, they just fucked around themselves like they can't fake being surprised.
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Stefan.North
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Nintendo will sue the whole planet, it seems.
Hyet
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I don't think Nintendo would take this. They want to make an example of the and go under. They'll drag genki for years. They can.
IAmRei
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brainwashed what? every works own their rules, and genki break the rules. it's normal, very normal to sue someone who broke the law they signed together. it's normal to do
BlackTron
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I had forgotten what happened with the leaked files, 3D print, and total lack of any relationship or NDA. Thread was basically broken without the refresher course added.
On the one hand, they never signed an NDA. On the other hand, they were never given anything to begin with, using leaked files, and making an entire plastic 3D copy from the schematics and physically transporting it to an event is an extreme degree of premeditated intent to reveal the leaked, stolen, unrevealed data through substantial effort...that might not fly as well, than if they had just posted an oopsie photo or email...
On the one hand, they never signed an NDA. On the other hand, they were never given anything to begin with, using leaked files, and making an entire plastic 3D copy from the schematics and physically transporting it to an event is an extreme degree of premeditated intent to reveal the leaked, stolen, unrevealed data through substantial effort...that might not fly as well, than if they had just posted an oopsie photo or email...
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