Ironman_Bad
Member
This is absolutely disgusting...hackers have breached Sony and Microsoft online before, if Nintendo can brick your system best believe a hacker can too imagine the potential disaster brewing
Nintendo reserves the right to brick your console following "unauthorised use", in bid to prevent piracy (Sony Too)
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xrnzaaas
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I understand the idea of protecting hardware against modding (mainly for piracy reasons), but I always wonder how many people end up having their consoles bricked by mistake. Like for example if the system encounters an issue with the storage expansion and considers it an illegal mod. Or if you buy a faulty / hacked Game Card without any knowledge of that.
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Topher
Identifies as young
A "case" that will cost far more than the price of a new Switch.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
And that "case" is actually arbitration anyways through Nintendo friendly 3rd party. At least in US, even if Nintendo bricked thousands of consoles, it wouldn't go into proper legal channels.
Deerock71
Very Poor Hoice of Wor
Until it happens, it's just sitting around sniffing your own farts.
Topher
Identifies as young
Leave the billion dollar corporation alone, in other words
BlackTron
Member
I think the title's wording is fueling extra outrage.
Nintendo's verbiage is "render inoperable". But in this very thread, people conflate bricks with bans. "This happened to me already. MS banned my Xbox". Is that a brick now? What is "render inoperable", exactly? In modding, we usually refer to bricking as your system is dead and cannot be serviced, modded, or saved in any way beyond that point. I'm extremely skeptical that Nintendo is planning death beams to do this. They already do console/account bans, and inadvertently brick your system because you tried applying a real update to a CFW. So I wouldn't grab pitchforks quite yet.
Nintendo's verbiage is "render inoperable". But in this very thread, people conflate bricks with bans. "This happened to me already. MS banned my Xbox". Is that a brick now? What is "render inoperable", exactly? In modding, we usually refer to bricking as your system is dead and cannot be serviced, modded, or saved in any way beyond that point. I'm extremely skeptical that Nintendo is planning death beams to do this. They already do console/account bans, and inadvertently brick your system because you tried applying a real update to a CFW. So I wouldn't grab pitchforks quite yet.
Deerock71
Very Poor Hoice of Wor
Do whatever you want.
calistan
Member
Yeah, it's a wide-ranging term to legally cover circumstances that are currently unforseeable.
BlackTron
Member
so Nintendo is evil and coming to take your first born confirmed pretty much
calistan
Member
My guess would be that 'render inoperable' covers things like broad changes to the legal definition of 'inoperable'.
For example, if somebody's account is banned and a future legal action decides that by doing this Nintendo has made his console inoperable, they're covered.
keefged4
Member
I am in no way defending or advocating for this shitty behaviour, however it does bring into question what people expect when they buy into closed source console ecosystems. Bricking consoles totally is a bridge too far, but it's expected Nintendo behaviour at this point and if anyone expected otherwise then that's on them. If you don't want to deal with all the bullshittery of terms like this, get a PC.
That being said, Fuck Nintendo and I hope the Switch 2 gets hacked in record time.
That being said, Fuck Nintendo and I hope the Switch 2 gets hacked in record time.
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BlackTron
Member
I got you, I'm being sarcastic
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
Welcome to the perpetually connected, all-digital dystopia.
awwr999999
Member
Switch has design flaws (like its reliance on large games) that led to Nintendo to use SD cards and the sd card slot's going to be tricky for Nintendo to police.
Gambit2483
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The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
According to Sonys Eula, they are doing the exactly same:
From Sony's EULA:
If SIE Inc determines that you have violated this Agreement's terms, SIE Inc may itself or may procure the taking of any action to protect its interests such as disabling access to or use of some or all System Software, disabling use of this PS5 system online or offline, termination of your access to PlayStation™Network, denial of any warranty, repair or other services provided for your PS5 system, implementation of automatic or mandatory updates or devices intended to discontinue unauthorized use, or reliance on any other remedial efforts as reasonably necessary to prevent the use of modified or unpermitted use of System Software.
This isn't a Nintendo problem, but modern console problem in general.
From Sony's EULA:
If SIE Inc determines that you have violated this Agreement's terms, SIE Inc may itself or may procure the taking of any action to protect its interests such as disabling access to or use of some or all System Software, disabling use of this PS5 system online or offline, termination of your access to PlayStation™Network, denial of any warranty, repair or other services provided for your PS5 system, implementation of automatic or mandatory updates or devices intended to discontinue unauthorized use, or reliance on any other remedial efforts as reasonably necessary to prevent the use of modified or unpermitted use of System Software.
This isn't a Nintendo problem, but modern console problem in general.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
Nintendo can disable your Switch 2 for piracy in the U.S., but not in Europe, as confirmed by its EULA
The significant legal differences between the United States and Europe cause Nintendo to punish piracy differently depending on the territory.
en.as.com
Bring it on Nintendo, ban my bananas and let me sue you to Oblivion Remaster!
Well, I won't pirate any Switch 2 games, but I like the feelings of aggression in the air.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
What happens if trolls start to claim their consoles are bricked when they really are not? We could have thousands of fake bricks online and Nintendo might have to start responding to news with actual numbers of true bricks.
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