poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
But no-one in this thread would be stupid enough to agree to that, right?
Nintendo reserves the right to brick your console following "unauthorised use", in bid to prevent piracy (Sony Too)
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Will this post get 6 pages?From Sony's EULA:
If SIE Inc determines that you have violated this Agreement's terms, SIE Inc may itself or may procure the taking of any action to protect its interests such as disabling access to or use of some or all System Software, disabling use of this PS5 system online or offline, termination of your access to PlayStation™Network, denial of any warranty, repair or other services provided for your PS5 system, implementation of automatic or mandatory updates or devices intended to discontinue unauthorized use, or reliance on any other remedial efforts as reasonably necessary to prevent the use of modified or unpermitted use of System Software.
If your PS5 is disabled even when offline - that sounds like a brick to me
I think this is standard company legalese. I've yet to see Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo actually exercised this power. If they do, definitely grab the pitchforks.
Until then, it seems hypocritical to call out only Nintendo for the same EULA as Sony & MS.
Lets find out
crazyriddler
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Console warriors right nowFrom Sony's EULA:
If SIE Inc determines that you have violated this Agreement's terms, SIE Inc may itself or may procure the taking of any action to protect its interests such as disabling access to or use of some or all System Software, disabling use of this PS5 system online or offline, termination of your access to PlayStation™Network, denial of any warranty, repair or other services provided for your PS5 system, implementation of automatic or mandatory updates or devices intended to discontinue unauthorized use, or reliance on any other remedial efforts as reasonably necessary to prevent the use of modified or unpermitted use of System Software.
If your PS5 is disabled even when offline - that sounds like a brick to me
I think this is standard company legalese. I've yet to see Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo actually exercised this power. If they do, definitely grab the pitchforks.
Until then, it seems hypocritical to call out only Nintendo for the same EULA as Sony & MS.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
well glad i didnt purchase a ps5 then. happily willing to call out Sony in this case as well.From Sony's EULA:
If SIE Inc determines that you have violated this Agreement's terms, SIE Inc may itself or may procure the taking of any action to protect its interests such as disabling access to or use of some or all System Software, disabling use of this PS5 system online or offline, termination of your access to PlayStation™Network, denial of any warranty, repair or other services provided for your PS5 system, implementation of automatic or mandatory updates or devices intended to discontinue unauthorized use, or reliance on any other remedial efforts as reasonably necessary to prevent the use of modified or unpermitted use of System Software.
If your PS5 is disabled even when offline - that sounds like a brick to me
I think this is standard company legalese. I've yet to see Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo actually exercised this power. If they do, definitely grab the pitchforks.
Until then, it seems hypocritical to call out only Nintendo for the same EULA as Sony & MS.
However I'll still keep more of an eye on Nintendo as they are more litigious when it comes to such things
Angry_Megalodon
Member
Let's find out if ONE sonyer defends this bullshit like Pikmins do.
This is disgusting, whatever brand does it.
It's in Sony's End-User License Agreement and yet no Sony fan on this site has ever made a thread about it, and the PS5 has been out for years so logically we have to assume that they are happy with it when Sony does it. Silence is complicity after all.
I prefer Nintendo games although I have owned consoles from all 3 current manufactures and I'll say it's a bullshit thing to do, lets see if any fanboys or warriors will appear to criticize their preferred manufacturer, especially if they posted in this thread earlier, or will they avoid it in shame like cowards?
Edmund
is waiting for Starfield 7
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Defend it? They agreed to it.
awwr999999
Member
If Nintendo was smarter they'd have mesh networking that connects nearby devices (other online Switches, Nintendo devices, etc.) to the internet without the user ever needing to log in or connect to a network.
Every game console would be better off having its own SIM (on the same inexpensive global system Kindles used to use) and silently updating as soon as they get plugged in.
In a device that's user flow involves powering on and off headless firmware could silently update as soon as the battery gets charged to the right level and the user turns it off.
Nobody wants to update firmware and having things update silently outside of the UI/UX would be a massive improvement.
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LordOcidax
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I thought it was a Nintendo exclusive feature…
From Sony's EULA:
If SIE Inc determines that you have violated this Agreement's terms, SIE Inc may itself or may procure the taking of any action to protect its interests such as disabling access to or use of some or all System Software, disabling use of this PS5 system online or offline, termination of your access to PlayStation™Network, denial of any warranty, repair or other services provided for your PS5 system, implementation of automatic or mandatory updates or devices intended to discontinue unauthorized use, or reliance on any other remedial efforts as reasonably necessary to prevent the use of modified or unpermitted use of System Software.
If your PS5 is disabled even when offline - that sounds like a brick to me
I think this is standard company legalese. I've yet to see Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo actually exercised this power. If they do, definitely grab the pitchforks.
Until then, it seems hypocritical to call out only Nintendo for the same EULA as Sony & MS.
Mattyp
Not the YouTuber
No they didn't, they just banned them from LIVE. The same situation as Sony and Microsoft now.
Nintendo BRICKING a console would be entirely different matter if they went that route and illegal in a lot of the world.
LordOcidax
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
LordOcidax
Member
You made the OP then the first reply with this? tsk tsk. There's nothing to see here, sorry you're outraged at nothing.
Iced Arcade
Member
You really quoted someone from another thread and made a new one lol
LordOcidax
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LordOcidax
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Bernardougf
Member
Sonytoo#
Deerock71
Very Poor Hoice of Wor
Microsoft, too. It's just so much bullshit to act like Nintendo's the only one.
Bernardougf
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LordOcidax
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LordOcidax
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
From Sony's EULA:
If SIE Inc determines that you have violated this Agreement's terms, SIE Inc may itself or may procure the taking of any action to protect its interests such as disabling access to or use of some or all System Software, disabling use of this PS5 system online or offline, termination of your access to PlayStation™Network, denial of any warranty, repair or other services provided for your PS5 system, implementation of automatic or mandatory updates or devices intended to discontinue unauthorized use, or reliance on any other remedial efforts as reasonably necessary to prevent the use of modified or unpermitted use of System Software.
If your PS5 is disabled even when offline - that sounds like a brick to me
I think this is standard company legalese. I've yet to see Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo actually exercised this power. If they do, definitely grab the pitchforks.
Until then, it seems hypocritical to call out only Nintendo for the same EULA as Sony & MS.
It's due to the piss poor consumer protection laws in North America that companies are allowed to put shit like this in their EULA. Or put those dumbass tamper-proof stickers on products.
Musashipan
Member
Imagine defending this. Imagine thinking it's ok for sony to even have the ability to destroy your property.
LOL
LOL
Topher
Identifies as young
Who said that?
LordOcidax
Member
I don't have any issue with this
BlackTron
Member
I'm trying to read between the lines here. So you're trying to say that Nintendo should create a mesh network and/or SIM card that will automatically connect for updates regardless of user choice to connect to the Internet? And that this would be "smarter" because it would counter attempts to stall updates? Or was there some other reason?
Lambogenie
Member
Oh so now I can't truly own hardware. Fuck these companies, as usual.
Bogroll
Likes moldy games
Well having had a 18 year old Xbox account hacked and losing all my games having done fuck all and then Xbox saying my account was used for selling games. One does think this could be abused by the powers that be.Why would anyone care unless they were planning to pirate games?
KungFucius
King Snowflake
You don't have an issues with a company that sells you a piece of $400 hardware saying they can disable it if they detect, falsely or otherwise, that someone did something that goes against their terms of service on it? They don't need that power.I don't have any issue with this
I could see a weird case where someone finds an exploit that can be used to glitch games for 'cheating' offline and that same glitch could be used for other purposes and Nintendo detects it because your kid was doing it after watching some youtube video and now the Switch2 is bricked just because your kid wanted to mod Mario Kart.
Help, Nintendo keeps bricking my systems because I keep pirating their games!
Well did you ever think to stop pirating their games?
No.
For real though. Lots of weird ass takes in this thread. If you feel entitled to pirating a companies games, do it on PC. If you want to pirate games on their proprietary hardware and you get caught and they brick the system, then maybe don't break the law.
Well did you ever think to stop pirating their games?
No.
For real though. Lots of weird ass takes in this thread. If you feel entitled to pirating a companies games, do it on PC. If you want to pirate games on their proprietary hardware and you get caught and they brick the system, then maybe don't break the law.
IAmRei
Member
piracy is often like two sided coins, it can be used as stunt marketing and popularized the product, or kill the product.Yeah, I know we are reading this as "we reserve the right to beam a kill signal if we detect Princess Zelda costume mod", and maybe that's a thing sure.
But has anyone considered they are just letting you know, that if you do "unauthorized" stuff with your system, they literally have no clue at all if the update necessary to play the latest game will kill your system? Since, you know, they aren't in charge of the firmware you are running and therefore can't be held responsible for the update process?
Keep it off the Internet. Wait for the homebrew boys to update CFW to the latest version. Install it yourself without internet. This is not something for people who want to auto update all their games off of Nintendo's servers off the home screen like they just got a cheat code to cruise for free. lol
edit: not saying that's your friend, but the people in this thread man
Maybe, Nintendo should keep a special eye on CFW internally. And take special care that they don't brick any systems running the latest CFW. Until then, Nintendo can suck my balls.
BlackTron
Member
Sony as well. I bet that will slow the outraged comments down a little.
I hope Gamer79 saved the receipt for his PS4
Cyberpunkd
Member
And probably equally illegal .
Mozza
Member
The sheer horror.
Mozza
Member
Illegal?... That's a sick bird.
LordOcidax
Member
Go ahead, sue then…
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