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[AJUMP23]

Sure.

 

[Bojji]

Often here in GAF people compare the sales of the switch 1 (portable) vs PS2 (console) now we can´t compare the switch 2 vs the PS5 or Xbox?

I think comparing sales of handhelds vs. stationary consoles is wrong.

 

[balls of snow]

I'm a fan of the OLED screens. Switch OLED is beautiful compared to the trash LCD screen. Steam OLED is also beautiful. Switch 2 at that price point, with shitty hardware and no Zelda is an easy pass for me. I'd still get if it had an LCD screen and launched with a new Zelda though, it's not necessarily a deciding factor. But it compounds the issues I have with this launch that's for sure.

Yeah its clear Ninty is baiting us for the double dip witholding an oled edition at launch. Hell, I would pay a premium for it.
Oh well, good things come to those who wait.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Prioritizing their Japanese fanbase and the Yen exchange rate. They're sick of Americans touring Japan and buying everything cheap.

Rather than that, I think it is due to chinese scalpers.

 

[CloudShiner]

is the mario kart bundle a physical or digital copy?

They confirmed digital copy in the direct.

 

[segasonic]

how does this not have OLED? Nintendo am fail

 

[Sorcerer]

Might as well wait for the inevitable OLED version in year or two with a terabyte of storage most likely in a year or two for $500, unless you only care about docked mode of course, but I think that's a small contingent anyway.

 

[Leopold]

Day one.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Do the new joycons with bigger sticks get the fabled Hall Effect?

 

[Generic]

LMAO no fucking chance I'm getting this until huge a huge price drop.

And what's this about $80 games?

There won't be a price drop. $450 until the end of time.

 

[Sorcerer]

how does this not have OLED? Nintendo am fail

Hardware refresh when sales slip a little, higher price. It's all in the plan.

 

[Bojji]

Bojji you're such a hater.

You know that it's overpriced because it is 330 dollars in Japan and 450 dollars in the US. The global pricing on this is hilarious and the device is essentially a Switch Pro, but with exclusive games.

When Sony drops the price of the PS5 and PS5 Pro post-GTA6, the Switch 2 is going to struggle to find a market in the west.

If this is Switch Pro then you are getting a LOT for your money vs. PS5 Pro:

PS5 Pro - 50% more GPU power, same CPU, almost the same memory (but faster) for 2x more money.
Switch 2 - 4x or more powerful GPU, much more powerful CPU (I don't know about exact numbers), 3x or more RAM for 40% more money.

 

[Fabieter]

Im willing to pay $450 for the system... but $80 for a game??? Nintendo can eat my dirty butthole

Yea that's also me kind of. I think console pricing is on the upper end but it's fine but fuck those game prices.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Right now Nintendo is competing with Steam/Windows handhelds and not MS/Sony stationary consoles.

And unless you are a hardcore Nintendo fan this is a lost battle - Refurbished SD is approx. 330€, add to that no paid online and CD keys that can be gotten for pennies (I got Yakuza 0 sub-10€, Hogwarts was just on sale for 14.99€). So while in the past you had to buy Switch if you wanted to play Nintendo games AND/OR play the games portably, now only the first part still holds.

 

[Guardian Monkey]

The hardware it self seems fine. The games are what was needed to sell this. 1st party was lacking greatly, it seems like Covid really set them back. Now DK could be great but there needs to be more. I'll pick one up at launch or around launch. I'm not going to stress getting this at release.

 

[Ristifer]

Lol over $600 in Canada before taxes. I mean, I want to play MP4, but I'm also not a sucker.

 

[Exentryk]

Day 1 for Bravely Default HD Remaster.

Will get the basic bundle and physical Mario Kart World.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Switch 2 - 4x or more powerful GPU, much more powerful CPU (I don't know about exact numbers), 3x or more RAM for 40% more money.

And it is already chugging with 3rd party games during its reveal.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Does anyone know if the Switch 1 Pro controller will be compatible with the Switch 2 and Switch 2 software?

 

[NicolasBai]

Suddenly PS5 looks cheap.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

If this is Switch Pro then you are getting a LOT for your money vs. PS5 Pro:

PS5 Pro - 50% more GPU power, same CPU, almost the same memory (but faster) for 2x more money.
Switch 2 - 4x or more powerful GPU, much more powerful CPU (I don't know about exact numbers), 3x or more RAM for 40% more money.

Your premise is faulty because it assumes that the Switch itself wasn't overpriced in this day and age, which it absolutely is.

Also PS5 Pro has 10% faster CPU capacity, you're also ignoring the additional 1TB of storage and upscaling.

Switch 2's price also has to account for the increase in game prices, increase in accessory prices, increase in storage prices...

Just stop this now. I'm asking you.

 

[Fake]

The question people should ask is, if Lego Horizon will have Nintendo Switch 2 support 4K/HDR

 

[Astray]

We will talk about that when Sony portable console arrives. THEN we can compare which one is more overpriced.

Goalpost moving roflmao.

I don't even get why people are comparing PS5 and Switch 2, those consoles are not competing directly. Right now Nintendo is competing with Steam/Windows handhelds and not MS/Sony stationary consoles. We know that MS and Sony will launch handhelds in the future.

Because:

A) All these consoles, streaming services, platform and handhelds etc are competing for your money and time.

B) Nintendo chose to merge their handheld and console lines into one, and thus the comparisons must happen to both of its addressable markets. Not just the one it's essentially monopolizing.

C) Nintendo is the only one that's upcharging massively on all their hardware offerings. The other players are taking losses or breaking even. Even with that, they're now charging the highest prices of all platform holders on 1P titles too! Massive ripoff.

 

[Chairman Yang]

i will show my willy to people with the camera

Pre order confirmed.

 

[Bojji]

And it is already chugging with 3rd party games during its reveal.

It's powerful for a portable device but not vs. 200+ Watt stationary machines.

Your premise is faulty because it assumes that the Switch itself wasn't overpriced in this day and age, which it absolutely is.

Also PS5 Pro has 10% faster CPU capacity, you're also ignoring the additional 1TB of storage and upscaling.

Switch 2's price also has to account for the increase in game prices, increase in accessory prices, increase in storage prices...

Just stop this now. I'm asking you.

10% more CPU power for 100% more money.

 

[Silver Wattle]

Price is not great, it's going to cost them sales until they cut to 399.

For this price there is really no excuse for no OLED.

 

[Sorcerer]

Do the new joycons with bigger sticks get the fabled Hall Effect?

They did not mention it. I don't think any of the first Party console manufactures will ever embrace it. They hope your warranty runs out or go buy from a third party so they still make their percentage.

Pre order confirmed.

It seems the camera only zoomed in on faces, (In a bubble) I could be wrong but I bet Nintendo planned this out on purpose to avoid streakers. Otherwise they would not allow that camera.
Considering the headaches they had with that drawing/messaging app thing they had I would be shocked if you could do lude things with the camera.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

It's powerful for a portable device

But it's not? This is performance-wise worse than what you can get on a Steam Deck, not to mention over there you can tweak settings and/or framerate.

 

[proandrad]

Would be all in, if it was a oled. Thinking I might just wait for the oled version.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

For this price there is really no excuse for no OLED.

 

[StereoVsn]

Yeah. I've edited my comment just before you replied. It's to deter the CN resellers though, not the american ones.

I hope at least games are region free. If they region lock the games, that would be super crappy situation

 

[Guardian Monkey]

If this is Switch Pro then you are getting a LOT for your money vs. PS5 Pro:

PS5 Pro - 50% more GPU power, same CPU, almost the same memory (but faster) for 2x more money.
Switch 2 - 4x or more powerful GPU, much more powerful CPU (I don't know about exact numbers), 3x or more RAM for 40% more money.

Comparing a hybrid system to dedicated systems is not really apples to apples. Relative to performance per dollar this falls apart quickly.

 

[LavitzSlambert]

Nintendo turned crazy, now you have to pay even for chat, expensive SD cards, games costing 80 or 90 euros, pricey controllers... Only three interesting launch titles, and the rest are mostly ports. On top of that, you even have to pay for the demo game "Welcome Tour," which should be free, like Astro's Playroom on the PS5. They're going to crash hard, just like what happened with the Vita and Wii U.

That depends - does the industry look at what Nintendo is doing and follow suit, or compete? You can make the argument other publishers are pricing their games cheaper, and then hit you up for DLC, season passes, etc which effectively raises the price. Or maybe they pull a Nintendo and raise the prices, but continue to ship incomplete games where you need to buy add-ons to get the full thing.

 

[Bloody Crow of Cainhurst]

Strange that this piece of trash is getting zero pushback for its price while everyone on the internet was up in arms about the PS5 Pro. It goes to show that entire online campaign was astroturfed to hell.

 

[Astray]

That depends - does the industry look at what Nintendo is doing and follow suit, or compete? You can make the argument other publishers are pricing their games cheaper, and then hit you up for DLC, season passes, etc which effectively raises the price. Or maybe they pull a Nintendo and raise the prices, but continue to ship incomplete games where you need to buy add-ons to get the full thing.

Nintendo will %100 do DLC with the new Mario Kart.

They're essentially doing this with their Switch 2 editions of Switch 1 games.

They basically looked up every single trick in the anti-consumer book and copied it for this gen.

 

[segasonic]

They did not mention it. I don't think any of the first Party console manufactures will ever embrace it. They hope your

It seems the camera only zoomed in on faces, (In a bubble) I could be wrong but I bet Nintendo planned this out on purpose to avoid streakers. Otherwise they would not allow that camera.
Considering the headaches they had with that drawing/messaging app thing they had I would be shocked if you could do lude things with the camera.

Pedos will draw faces on their dicks or some shit

 

[proandrad]

Strange that this piece of trash is getting zero pushback for its price while everyone on the internet was up in arms about the PS5 Pro. It goes to show that entire online campaign was astroturfed to hell.

Because saving up their lunch money to 450 is faster than 700.

 

[Lucifers Beard]

£395? Day one and I'll probably get one for both me and my wife. Mario Kart looks amazing, Duskbloods is day one because Fromsoft and holy shit I wasn't expecting Donkey Kong.

Anyone thinking this is a dead system is fucking insane. This thing is going to sell like hot cakes.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

In fairness, 470 includes VAT which is about 20% in most European countries. Remove that and price is down to 391 eur = 424 USD.

Not to mention the US price doesn't include tax, it's added afterwards.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Anyone thinking this is a dead system is fucking insane. This thing is going to sell like hot cakes.

Have you looked at the news recently? Everybody is cutting back on spending.

 

[Melon Husk]

I am sufficiently whelmed.

That's a little higher than expected which was 400. You basically pay one game's worth extra for the hardware.

 

[TheChadOfGaming]

Can you use switch pro controller on switch 2?

 

[EDMIX]

Day 1 for Bravely Default HD Remaster.

This the only correct answer

Nothing looks good, a lot of ports, remasters and the only one worth a damn is that Bravely Default Remaster...

This is a day 1 for me too, but not a solid one, anyone can change, but day 1 for now.

 

[PatientGamer]

Trump tariffs in full effect. Well done guys, you win I guess?

 

[peish]

Nintendo wants to continue dominate Japan. This must be the most favorable pricing for Japanese gamers since .... eternity?

 

[Sorcerer]

Strange that this piece of trash is getting zero pushback for its price while everyone on the internet was up in arms about the PS5 Pro. It goes to show that entire online campaign was astroturfed to hell.

Nintendo has proven that gameplay is stronger than specs. The pro didn't bring the games. Probably just a higher electricity bill. LOL

 

[Lucifers Beard]

Have you looked at the news recently? Everybody is cutting back on spending.

Yes I've seen the news. It hasn't stopped people spending over £2000 on GPUs though. At £395 this will fly off the shelves.

 

[Durin]

The price is disappointing in that it's close to PS5/XSX...but given we live in the times of the $700 ($800 with disc) PS5 Pro and expensive GPUs, it sucks to not be surprised.

At least the hardware choices are what I wanted:

• Games actually targeting 120fps
• 1080p on the go
• Hdr on TV + portable is good
• Mouse control support in a good amount of games, and like I thought PC-centric games like Civ actually using it.

 

[Ancient Gamer]

About $800 Australian on current exchange rates plus the obligatory Australia tax. Will be a wait and see for me.

 

[damidu]

lol lcd in 2025 for $450. nice joke