Isn't the Switch even more powerful than the new shield tv that was just announced? That shield TV was $199.99 right? So an extra $50 gets you a device that is also a multitouch portable with even more power. That is extremely reasonable.
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Mithos
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forknknife
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You wouldn't like an achievement for reaching to the highest point in hyrule? Or make a really long slide down a mountain without falling? I think it'd be pretty cool stuff to do and it'd feel better if it's not just part of a mission. This game is a sandbox and it should just let you go about your way but reward you somehow. Achievements would be great imo.
Even with Eurogamer saying Stars?Just a hunch
So Soon!
If the Switch trailer is today... what's tomorrow?
Great work on these btw. They've really helped keep up the hype.
Invisible Man
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I can confirm the Best Buy price of $249.99.
IntelliHeath
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Thanks, I hope that I would able to finish something special tonight for tomorrow, but at same time I'm not sure if I should do 12 hours or not.
forknknife
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The Wii music gif please!
CharminUltra
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Based on the Eurogamer clock speed leak, nope.
I thought it was confirmed the X1 in the new shield tv was clocked even lower than that of the Switch.
I'm looking at specs now for shield tv 2017 and it's saying Tegra X1 (same as Switch) and a 256core gpu with 3gb ram and 16gb of flash memory is $199.99. Switch is rumored to be more powerful than that with eurogamer downclock rumor.
GiantBreadbug
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In what universe is a $250 not an apparently good value even next to a PS4 or XBO at the same price?
Allegedly the big multiplats are coming (launch success pending), there are plenty of quality Nintendo titles in the launch pipe, and the portability "gimmick" is immediately appealing to many people. That at $250 next to other platforms that play a lot of the same multiplats seems like a pretty decent proposition to me (assuming the big ones get made for Switch).
This thing is being marketed and will be perceived as a home console. If the games are there, they won't have a hard time getting people to buy a $250 SKU (especially if they include a game). What will PS4 and XBO offer that Switch won't if most third party efforts are there?
I just don't really get the idea that PS4 and XBO are such a great value. Some decent games on the horizon (pun intended) but honestly I just don't see it. They're both currently having a pissing contest over who can have the strongest box, meanwhile VR is not the takeoff success everyone thought it would be (shocker), and they're having a difficult time convincing me why the tech-chasing console market isn't more or less sold through for this generation in a year or so.
Allegedly the big multiplats are coming (launch success pending), there are plenty of quality Nintendo titles in the launch pipe, and the portability "gimmick" is immediately appealing to many people. That at $250 next to other platforms that play a lot of the same multiplats seems like a pretty decent proposition to me (assuming the big ones get made for Switch).
This thing is being marketed and will be perceived as a home console. If the games are there, they won't have a hard time getting people to buy a $250 SKU (especially if they include a game). What will PS4 and XBO offer that Switch won't if most third party efforts are there?
I just don't really get the idea that PS4 and XBO are such a great value. Some decent games on the horizon (pun intended) but honestly I just don't see it. They're both currently having a pissing contest over who can have the strongest box, meanwhile VR is not the takeoff success everyone thought it would be (shocker), and they're having a difficult time convincing me why the tech-chasing console market isn't more or less sold through for this generation in a year or so.
I was under the impression that it was the same as the old Shield TV, which is basically a fully-clocked X1.
xochipiltontli
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I think currently the most pessimistic estimates put it at using a stock Tegra X1 like the Shield TV with more RAM and some changes in how it manages memory, though supposedly it's going to be underclocked a bit in docked mode and dramatically in undocked mode. Apparently the Shield TV often throttles to clock speeds that Nintendo's supposedly using though, and it shouldn't have Android's overhead, so it should have better game performance than the Shield TV when docked in this most pessimistic scenario. It will almost certainly be weaker in portable mode though, but since it plays BotW I don't care too much. The price is very reasonable as it's $50 less than what a Shield Tablet 2 probably would have cost, and it includes controllers and a dock.
The new Shield TV is just a repacked 2015 Shield TV. Switch as far as power goes Should end up for the most part being a far more efficient device overall.
-Pyromaniac-
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any time people say it will be marketed and perceived as a home console, I will respond with saying the one trailer for the Switch that we have which is 3.5 mins long. About 2/3rds of it consists of people using it as a handheld...
...so yeah. Not saying future marketing won't be different but I think the handheld part is the selling point. The video out to a tv is the bonus. It's a more mobile console and it runs mobile hardware.
It is but MDave has been doing benchmarks and the Shield TV's GPU throttles down to the same level as the docked Switch when the device gets hot. Shield has a CPU advantage but Switch has more RAM(plus potentially whatever customizations Nintendo do).
So basically Nintendos system has more RAM than a $200 system and a more stable CPU/GPU as well as the option to go full portable with an HD touch screen all for an extra $50 making the cost $250 and this piece of tech is considered overpriced. Some people are crazy to think this is overpriced considering all of this.
It was technically because you couldn't take it out of your home, but it certainly wasn't what I'd call a standard home console. It's also a slightly different situation because it was abandoned early by publishers so there was less pressure on the 32GB. I don't think Nintendo do 10's of gig patches.
Switch is again being touted as a home console, and they wanted to say a certain thing when they showed SkyRim. If that's the sort of games coming, then the 32GB (rumoured) is just appalling and you will have to almost immediately add the cost of a decent sized SD card.....unless they pack one in of course which is what I'm hoping.
Nope it's not. I'm still on my 500GB PS4 HDD, although it is nearly full. It's got tonnes of games and patches on it. I'm OK buying more storage if I'm a heavy user and want lots of stuff on storage but with Switch you'll basically need it as soon as you go digital or patch a couple of AAA games.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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Reddit's best fake leak so far is valve legacy edition.
Compsiox
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Dark Cloud
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Sometimes I have to calm my breathing down. I'm getting way too excited thinking of the presentation and how close it is! Lol
Prevolition
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Just cancelled my denstist appointment for this event.
woah, that took me back
I also realized that I don't find Eternal Darkness to be a good game after all these years... who would have thought?
I think it's a safe bet at this point.
Compsiox
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Watch it in the waiting room
GiantBreadbug
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I disagree. The point of them showing the console part first was to make the portability "gimmick" more surprising, and it worked. They showed a lot of people playing it on the go to show the appeal. A 3.5 minute trailer of Skyrim and Mario only on a TV would have been a poor demonstration of what the message of the device.
It's a pretty true hybrid. It's got console-level guts and you can take it with you. They'll be marketing it as each for sure, but they certainly won't be solely talking about it as a mobile device. They're going to want people thinking of this as both.
xochipiltontli
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More storage than the Shield TV too if it comes with 32 GB, since the Shield TV comes with 16 GB at $199. That's why anyone who's expecting anything more storage for $250 is delusional, yeah you can get a 500 GB version of the Shield TV, but it's also larger and $100 more expensive. Moving parts don't work as well in the size profile that the Switch is going for.
PadWarrior
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Nice!
I'm starting to think we are gonna get a traditional D-Pad JoyCon at or near launch now looking at this and some of the other accessories. All of them (that I've seen) wrap around the ABXY buttons nicely but have an open circle for the "dpad", only explanation I can think of for that is so that they would be compatible with a Joycon with a full d pad. I sure hope so anyway.
I need it.
Prevolition
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I'm the dentist.
Seriously tho, I don't want the bad associations with novacane and fillings, and I had insurance issues anyway.
More like they aren't planning to go bankrupt by releasing a product that sells for less that what it costs to make.
Watch it get under produced and sell for 4 times its value the first six months
The Switch has a hell of a lot more to it then the Shield TV. It has motion controls, A HD Touch Screen, More Ram, More Internal Storage and many other features tucked into the device.
It's starting to sound like Switch is a very advanced piece of tech for the price. That's nice to see.
Based on throttling, yep
Sure, cause Nintendo is making their own hardware like Nvidia, and they also get a free 6.2", multitouch, HD screen.
7 posts over yours.
What is a $50 Nintendo tax?
Any company prices their products at whatever point they think people will be willing to pay and obviously covers costs to manufacture etc.
It's not like Apple goes out with the iPhone and says "this cost us $100 to make, $20 shipping and handling, $20 misc overheads. Whack it up for $140".
As with every business the primary goal is to make money.
Any company prices their products at whatever point they think people will be willing to pay and obviously covers costs to manufacture etc.
It's not like Apple goes out with the iPhone and says "this cost us $100 to make, $20 shipping and handling, $20 misc overheads. Whack it up for $140".
As with every business the primary goal is to make money.
From what has been found via testing a Tegra X1. It seems like Nintendo is pushing the chip to its absolute max in Docked mode for a device its size. Switch would need to be larger than the Wii U Gamepad to get anything more out of it realistically.
And at this point Tegra X1 is as state of the art as its going to get in the Mobile sphere right now. Tegra Xavier will change things but that wont realistically even be to the public til Late 2018
BrownieBrownBrown
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Couple more days friends. So exciting!!!!!
Jaded Alyx
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My point was you had to do the same on Wii U if you were a heavy digital user. You realise Wii U had games around and over 20GB right?
Graphics Horse
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I'd forgotten how dramatic that email to Leslie Benzies was.
32 GB is useless though, with the actual game size and patches it fills pretty quick, you will still need a big SD, like on Wii U you need a HDD.
JoshuaJSlone
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Super Mario Advance, Super Mario 64 DS, Twilight Princess were all big launch games that were originally games for earlier systems--but Nintendo still had all-new GBA, DS, and Wii games at launch.
FloweryMarston
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I'm sure there will be at least one original game launching with it.
Graphics Horse
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Good point!
Yep, super crazy. I mean, not that the direct comparison is 100% valid, but doesn't the n3DS go for $200 right now? I mean, c'mon...
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