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[Cerium]

You guys think that this presentation will feature games beyond the launch period?

Absolutely. I think they want to make as big a splash as possible. Anything they can show they will.

The floor demos might lean more towards launch games though.

 

[James Scott]

I think Mario Kart will be mk9 regdardless if it's 'built from the ground up' or not. For the same reason that if the Wii U had been a souped up 3DS, mk8 would have just taken mk7 code and characters added the anti grav bit. Can imagine they might lift a lot of wii u content too, perhaps all the dlc tracks but one dlc track is all we've seen so there's not much to go on.
I'm not really anticipating any massive traversal feature like 7&8 introduced, as... I can't really think of any. maybe they will bring back halfpipes or something, or add jetskis.

It has the same UI and seemingly assets outside of King Boo.
Splatoon might very well be a sequel since it adds pants/gloves, hair styles, and new stages, though

 

[Anth0ny]

You guys think that this presentation will feature games beyond the launch period? I have a feeling that we will get maybe 1 big holiday game revealed, but the rest will be at E3.

I feel like the idea is to avoid a wii u-like unveiling, which only focused on launch window titles and didn't get people excited for the hardware

this time, they should definitely go in depth with all 2017 titles, and show off some 2018 titles.

 

[NateDrake]

You guys think that this presentation will feature games beyond the launch period? I have a feeling that we will get maybe 1 big holiday game revealed (3D Mario that was shown), but the rest will be at E3.

Yes. Will likely see at least the first 6 months of planned software from Nintendo. They may hold off on holiday 2017 releases and focus on those at E3, but a few may find their way into the presentation to demonstrate long-term support.

 

[WhiteWaterM00se]

Does anyone thinks it is possible, Nintendo announces their own GE Force Now streaming service?

 

[Jon Carter]

I find it absurd that Oregano is getting attacked for reading the quote correctly. We can absolutely argue that this is just PR speak for, "Shut up and wait until January," and that he doesn't actually mean what he says, but what he says is definitely pretty disappointing to hear.

 

[Smellycat]

Yes. Will likely see at least the first 6 months of planned software from Nintendo. They may hold off on holiday 2017 releases and focus on those at E3, but a few may find their way into the presentation to demonstrate long-term support.

I agree about the first 6 months part. I think we might get teasers for anything beyond that and then full reveals at E3 or other directs.

 

[MacTag]

Well Konami was listed as a partner and they don't make games anymore so a port might make sense.

PCE and MSX Virtual Console. Maybe PES, Power Pro, Metal Gear and Yu-Gi-Oh if we're lucky.

 

[Speely]

That looks like a ton of effort put into a random weird/late 3DS exclusive release. Having that between launch and the holidays would likely be smart. Namco Bandai is making it too, IIRC

Correct, with Camelot doing Tennis and Golf (iirc.)

Tales from my ass: It could be a good pack-in for launch, ala Wii Sports. Would certainly showcase the local multiplayer anywhere aspect of the Switch.

 

[Living the Dream]

I strongly feel that if Nintendo wants fans like myself to buy these enhanced ports of Wii U games for the Switch; then it can't just be Mario Kart 8.5. It has to be called Mario Kart 9 / Switch; even if it is just an upgrade. People will immediately look at it and say "i'll wait".

 

[Godzilla's Left Toe]

You guys think that this presentation will feature games beyond the launch period? I have a feeling that we will get maybe 1 big holiday game revealed (3D Mario that was shown), but the rest will be at E3.

Their wording was "a look at the lineup of games currently in development"so they didn't say "games in our launch window" so I would say yes.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

What if Level-5 just doesn't have games ready for launch

This can't be it. They clearly have no interest in ever supporting the platform ever and never, ever will. Ever.

 

[Malakai]

I'm wondering on how will third parties try there best to sabotage the Nintendo Switch like they did the 3DS, Wii and the Wii U. I wonder how many broken Switch games we will get or how many Switch games will have less content. Or how many Switch third party games will outright bad like they were on the 3DS.

 

[Graphics Horse]

It has the same UI and seemingly assets outside of King Boo.
Splatoon might very well be a sequel since it adds pants/gloves, hair styles, and new stages, though

I guess, I just find the timing a bit weird for them to release mk8 almost 3 years later when they should have enough new content to dress it up like a new game, even if it's mk8 at its core.

 

[ggx2ac]

I guess, I just find the timing a bit weird for them to release mk8 almost 3 years later when they should have enough new content to dress it up like a new game, even if its mk8 at its core.

Imagine if they had a battle mode similar to Mario kart 64 than what was given.

 

[Anth0ny]

I strongly feel that if Nintendo wants fans like myself to buy these enhanced ports of Wii U games for the Switch; then it can't just be Mario Kart 8.5. It has to be called Mario Kart 9 / Switch; even if it is just an upgrade. People will immediately look at it and say "i'll wait".

I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped numbers for Mario Kart going forward.

Calling all of the Wii U ports "Mario Kart Switch" "Splatoon Switch" "Mario Maker Switch" Smash for Switch" would be fine, I think.

 

[Skittzo0413]

I think the bare bones Wii U release schedule from the past year and forward combined with the fact that we literally have no idea what many of Nintendo's teams have been working on for the past several years is making people a bit crazy.

It's clear to me that they are banking on a massive software blowout in January, based on the timing and them renting out the biggest convention center in Japan. Along with the global demos happening shortly after, this screams absolute confidence in what they have to show off.

Now I can't really blame people for going a bit crazy because Nintendo is being so tight lipped (and presumably preventing partners from announcing games too) but it seems to be their strategy to announce as much software as possible all at once to build hype. And hey, it'll probably work.

 

[TheDinoman]

I guess, I just find the timing a bit weird for them to release mk8 almost 3 years later when they should have enough new content to dress it up like a new game, even if it's mk8 at its core.

Technically, development on MK8 was fully wrapped up early in 2015 when its last DLC pack came out. My guess is that they wanted a MK title to come for launch and it was just quicker to take MK8 and add on it to rather than starting from scratch and making the Switch wait longer for it.

 

[Dark Cloud]

You guys think that this presentation will feature games beyond the launch period? I have a feeling that we will get maybe 1 big holiday game revealed (3D Mario that was shown), but the rest will be at E3.

I'm expecting ALOT of games. All the way through this year and next year to show gamers Nintendo will have proven software in the long run.

 

[Speely]

I think the bare bones Wii U release schedule from the past year and forward combined with the fact that we literally have no idea what many of Nintendo's teams have been working on for the past several years is making people a bit crazy.

It's clear to me that they are banking on a massive software blowout in January, based on the timing and them renting out the biggest convention center in Japan. Along with the global demos happening shortly after, this screams absolute confidence in what they have to show off.

Now I can't really blame people for going a bit crazy because Nintendo is being so tight lipped (and presumably preventing partners from announcing games too) but it seems to be their strategy to announce as much software as possible all at once to build hype. And hey, it'll probably work.

This 100%. January is going to be craaaazy.

 

[WhiteWaterM00se]

I'm wondering on how will third parties try there best to sabotage the Nintendo Switch like they did the 3DS, Wii and the Wii U. I wonder how many broken Switch games we will get or how many Switch games will have less content. Or how many Switch third party games will outright bad like they were on the 3DS.

This happens on all systems at launch. But hopefully Nintendo emphasizes quality or quantity.

 

[Vena]

I find it absurd that Oregano is getting attacked for reading the quote correctly. We can absolutely argue that this is just PR speak for, "Shut up and wait until January," and that he doesn't actually mean what he says, but what he says is definitely pretty disappointing to hear.

Because the conclusion follows no stream of logic. If because they won't have a game day and date with the launch of the NS somehow means they aren't supporting it, then almost all of Nintendo's own studios are also not going to be supporting the NS. The quote is empty of any extended meaning other than "we won't have games at launch" and could be said by IntSys or one of Nintendo's own internal teams:

“We plan to make games for Nintendo Switch, but I think it’s very important to find out the best way to get the most out of the console. For that reason, we won’t have any titles at launch, but we’ll work with it as soon as we figure out how to take advantage of it.”

This is a quote that could have been said by Takahashi of all people for how little it actually says and means, and it would still mean only one thing with any definitiveness: we won't have a game day and date for launch. It means nothing else. No part of this quote says anything other than that, it just says they are not rushing software for launch and want to make the best of the system. You do not "plan to make games" for a console you are not supporting, and the sentence says nothing of past, present, and future other than that games are planned.

Anything else is an illogical trajectory of thought. Trying to reach another conclusion is because you want that conclusion to be reached, not because its being said. That is why people will reactively mock, because no one else is reading it in such a way.

 

[ggx2ac]

I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped numbers for Mario Kart going forward.

Calling all of the Wii U ports "Mario Kart Switch" "Splatoon Switch" "Mario Maker Switch" Smash for Switch" would be fine, I think.

Future Forbes contributor articles to be titled, "<Insert Wii U port here>: Bait and Switch?"

 

[Jpop]

Being on one of those pre-release lists is not very meaningful and I'm literally quoting what Hino said in regards to making Switch games.

It is almost as if you have already decided that the Switch is dead and isn't going to get
games.

It's been discussed in the past how slow third parties generally are to support new platforms in Japan. It wouldn't be surprising to see that continue.

Then the whole thing is a nonstarter and Nintendo has not only doomed themselves but also the entire Japanese console market. It's pretty much simple as that.

You might be right about the "Finding the best way to get the most out of it" but that's the kind of thing we've heard about Nintendo platforms for years. Switch seems as standard as they come and we're still hearing it.



*shrugs*

And are now reading into vague statements to validate that belief that you have.

On mobile so can't look in the link but apparently Capcom won't have any games at Switch launch?

Which means no Resident Evil, no Dead Rising and no Monster Hunter on Switch.

If that's the level of support from one of Nintendo's closest partners then the Switch is going to struggle at best and be dead on arrival at worst.

Note how the verbiage of these two quotes are almost identical

Nintendo can't even convince one of the 3DS' biggest supporters to work on Switch at the moment. What the actual fuck are they doing?

No wonder Nintendo is waiting until January, no one is making games for the thing.

Ok, whatever.



No he says they plan to make Switch games. I plan to buy a house but I haven't been to the bank and got a mortgage.

Sounds like a very risky idea that could really damage the franchise.

Spoiler

So it's believable.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

You really shouldn't put too much stock into Oregano's negativity. Based on history, he'll change his tune on Switch within a few days. Then change it back. Then change it back. Then change it back.

You could say his opinion on this platform regularly tends to....switch.

 

[James Scott]

I guess, I just find the timing a bit weird for them to release mk8 almost 3 years later when they should have enough new content to dress it up like a new game, even if it's mk8 at its core.

Maybe MK9 is due out in 2018 or later. I'd imagine just porting the base game+DLC and adding maybe a decent battle mode would be quite easy.
Though it would make MK8 pretty difficult to top with 9. We'll see

 

[Jpop]

You really shouldn't put too much stock into Oregano's negativity. Based on history, he'll change his tune on Switch within a few days. Then change it back. Then change it back. Then change it back.

You could say his opinion on this platform regularly tends to....switch.

Probably, I just felt like calling out his bullshit as I find his overly dramatic posts annoying as fuck.

 

[Sadist]

Yeah, not every third party has games ready in time for console/handheld releases. Not sure about the panicmode episode here.

 

[Malakai]

I think Kart and Splatoon will.be launch year titles but not there at launch. It'd be overkill first party wise and Nintendo will have promised to give more focus to third parties.

....

Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. I'm not buying this at all. After the bull$hit third parties pull with the 3DS and the Wii U, third shouldn't get jack diddy squat from Nintendo.

 

[SinCityAssassin]

The entire thread today:

 

[Jon Carter]

Because the conclusion follows no stream of logic. If because they won't have a game day and date with the launch of the NS somehow means they aren't supporting it, then almost all of Nintendo's own studios are also not going to be supporting the NS. The quote is empty of any extended meaning other than "we won't have games at launch" and could be said by IntSys or one of Nintendo's own internal teams:



This is a quote that could have been said by Takahashi of all people for how little it actually says and means, and it would still mean only one thing with any definitiveness: we won't have a game day and date for launch. It means nothing else. No part of this quote says anything other than that, it just says they are not rushing software for launch and want to make the best of the system. You do not "plan to make games" for a console you are not supporting, and the sentence says nothing of past, present, and future other than that games are planned.

Anything else is an illogical trajectory of thought. Trying to reach another conclusion is because you want that conclusion to be reached, not because its being said. That is why people will reactively mock, because no one else is reading it in such a way.

No. He's explained it before, but let's try again: "we&#8217;ll work with it as soon as we figure out how to take advantage of it."

I think it's PR speak and that he is just hiding the games that they are developing, yes, but the literal meaning of his words is that they have not started working on games yet and will start once they figure out whatever needs to be figured out in his mind. That's literally what that sentence means.

Also, not every Nintendo-owned developer needs to be there at launch because Nintendo will be there at launch. "Being there at launch" doesn't mean having every single one of your developers working on a launch game. Level-5 could be there at launch with a port made by 10 people. We're not expecting any publisher to blindly go all out, but I would be expecting such a major 3DS champion to show support, faith and excitement in the 3DS' successor to ensure they can keep the momentum going.

 

[Vena]

No. He's explained it before, but let's try again: "we&#8217;ll work with it as soon as we figure out how to take advantage of it."

This is the telephoned quote, look up Kano's quote on what the original spanish meant/intended.

 

[10k]

you're insane

What if he's the only sane one of us left?

 

[Nanashrew]

What if he's the only sane one of us left?

He's Eddie Valiant in our Toon Town.

He's Michael Jordan in our Looney Tunes.

Shocking Alberto is our straight man in our inane lunacy.

 

[SinCityAssassin]

What if Level-5 just doesn't have games ready for launch

You meaning to tell me game development is a system constantly in motion and just because games aren't ready by launch and are said not to be at launch doesn't mean they aren't in development and are actually being worked on right this second?

Shocking. That is Shocking, Alberto.

I'm shocked.

Now I won't have them put oregano on my subway foot long.

 

[CrisKre]

I really hope they throw everything they have into this presentation. It's a make it or break it situation, and i trully hope they come out from it looking strong.

 

[Javier]

So I just realized that Nintendo needs to price this at $250 for this Penny Arcade strip to be true once again.

 

[Roo]

I strongly feel that if Nintendo wants fans like myself to buy these enhanced ports of Wii U games for the Switch; then it can't just be Mario Kart 8.5. It has to be called Mario Kart 9 / Switch; even if it is just an upgrade. People will immediately look at it and say "i'll wait".

Until we know for sure the ammount of new content, calling it Mario Kart 9 would be misleading/deceptive.
Imagine the amount of people thinking they're getting the brand new Mario Kart game just to notice it is literally the same game they played years ago with only some new features here and there.

Mario Kart 8: Definitive Edition or Mario Kart 8 Switch (Edition) would be more appropriate.
The same applies to all the games that will get ported from Wii U to Switch. They actually need to let people know it is the same game but with some enhancements thrown at it.

 

[SkeptiMism]

I'm wondering on how will third parties try there best to sabotage the Nintendo Switch like they did the 3DS, Wii and the Wii U. I wonder how many broken Switch games we will get or how many Switch games will have less content. Or how many Switch third party games will outright bad like they were on the 3DS.

Yes, the 3rd parties tried their best to intentionally sabotage Nintendo's systems.

No but seriously, that's in some heavy conspiracy territory, no offense.

Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. I'm not buying this at all. After the bull$hit third parties pull with the 3DS and the Wii U, third shouldn't get jack diddy squat from Nintendo.

Yep, Nintendo certainly should just ignore every 3rd party and just do their own games.

That would certainly work well.

 

[KingSnake]

What if Level-5 just doesn't have games ready for launch

That's already a given.

Seeing how they're not working on anything yet, not having a game ready for the first year is also a good bet.

But it's very likely they will have some Switch games at some point.

 

[TheMoon]

Damn dude, it would take over 2 hours to get through all those games. Try cutting 20-25 games off that list.

Not at all. You know how these events go. Montage galore. You don't spend 5 minutes talking about a port.

They should have courted the classic Japanese portable softco /brands and developed their classic portable franchises with a huge technical leap

You mean the portable game makers who made portable games because they couldn't afford the big console game should now be making huge technical leaps with their portable games which because pretty please?

Wait is there a rumor about the Mario sports game coming to switch?

No? People just keep listing it.

It has the same UI and seemingly assets outside of King Boo.
Splatoon might very well be a sequel since it adds pants/gloves, hair styles, and new stages, though

You're forgetting a completely different/new mechanic with the item switching.

 

[BGBW]

Super Mario 128
- I'm expecting a high budget Mario that rivals 64

We got Super Mario 128 long ago, it's called Pikmin.

Also, I'll never know why people desperately wanted that tech demo of all things as a real game. It's just 128 Marios waltzing about on a board.

 

[zeromcd73]

That's already a given.

Seeing how they're not working on anything yet, not having a game ready for the first year is also a good bet.

But it's very likely they will have some Switch games at some point.

You expect 3DS to still get Lady Layton, Snack World, Inazuma, and there next big multi media game next year and not Switch?

 

[dampflokfreund]

Can't wait for the true E3 in january.

 

[LordKano]

You expect 3DS to still get Lady Layton, Snack World, Inazuma, and there next big multi media game next year and not Switch?

Inazuma hasn't even been announced for 3DS, it has no platform.

 

[TheMoon]

We got Super Mario 128 long ago, it's called Pikmin.

Also, I'll never know why people desperately wanted that tech demo of all things as a real game. It's just 128 Marios waltzing about on a board.

People don't actually want it. They just think they want it because evil Nintendo kept it from them. And because a title like Mario 128 translates into "Mario 64 which I loved but TWICE as good" ...

Just imagine the craving for Federation Force if we had only heard that they had this in development and canceled it or something. People would be salivating all over it.

Btw I also love the implication that all the other 3D Mario games haven't been "high budget" lol.

 

[Waji]

I think we realistically see the following:
Atlus: (1) Persona

Nope. This is not realistic at all.

I think the bare bones Wii U release schedule from the past year and forward combined with the fact that we literally have no idea what many of Nintendo's teams have been working on for the past several years is making people a bit crazy.

It's clear to me that they are banking on a massive software blowout in January, based on the timing and them renting out the biggest convention center in Japan. Along with the global demos happening shortly after, this screams absolute confidence in what they have to show off.

Now I can't really blame people for going a bit crazy because Nintendo is being so tight lipped (and presumably preventing partners from announcing games too) but it seems to be their strategy to announce as much software as possible all at once to build hype. And hey, it'll probably work.

Exactly my thought too.

 

[KingBroly]

I think the bare bones Wii U release schedule from the past year and forward combined with the fact that we literally have no idea what many of Nintendo's teams have been working on for the past several years is making people a bit crazy.

It's clear to me that they are banking on a massive software blowout in January, based on the timing and them renting out the biggest convention center in Japan. Along with the global demos happening shortly after, this screams absolute confidence in what they have to show off.

Now I can't really blame people for going a bit crazy because Nintendo is being so tight lipped (and presumably preventing partners from announcing games too) but it seems to be their strategy to announce as much software as possible all at once to build hype. And hey, it'll probably work.

People said that from Wii > Wii U as well

But instead Nintendo focused on making 3DS games.

Now I'd hope that whatever CPU is in the 3DS/N3DS is similar to the one in Switch so those games can easily go between them (to the Switch, not vice-versa). Or at the very least, their plan is to not support 3DS after next year.

 

[Luigiv]

Just imagine the craving for Federation Force if we had only heard that they had this in development and canceled it or something. People would be salivating all over it.

Man, I DREAD to think of that.

 

[Cerium]

Nope. This is not realistic at all.

Perhaps not at launch, but Persona 5 seems like a natural fit.

After all they got Persona 4 onto Vita.