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[Rösti]

I will update the OP with links to resolution notice etc. as soon as I can. Now I need rest.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Interesting Q+A! Love how it seems more positive this time!

 

[wishdom]

Eh.

Something like 100 people are working now, 300 people worked in one point or another, 5 years in development.

Then something like a title (not necesarily Zelda) needs to sell 2m worlwide to be a success and how in the struggling Japan 300k is a hit.

Thanks for the clarifications

 

[Reversed]

NJ said it's over.

 

[Anarky]

Miyamoto said NX was to be shown at E3, needs to be finished before information is released. They don't want nobody copying their ideas.

Zelda was really popular though.

Is this thread worthy?

 

[AdanVC]

So does that mean that the NX will be in production in July

Don't you guys just love how we already know NX release date and now the month when the NX will begin production BUT YET WE STILL DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT THE ACTUAL THING????? I don't. I simply don't.

 

[thefro]

All propositions passed! That's the big news from the meeting.

Is this thread worthy?

No, Cheesemeister translated it a different way

https://twitter.com/Cheesemeister3k/status/747981485831970817

"@NStyles Miyamoto: Normally we would've shown the #NX at #E3, but we didn't. We're worried about imitators if we release info too early."

 

[Jim_Cacher]

Is this thread worthy?

Wait for the official translation.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

https://twitter.com/Cheesemeister3k/status/747981485831970817

I live for the gimmicks.

UGH I CANT WAIT

I hope shit doesn't leak. Nintendo has to reveal it soon!

 

[10k]

I called this, and someone mock me saying something like im a delusional fanboy, am i right Kingsnake...

That's his shtick. Don't mind him. It was obvious not showing it at E3 was a last minute decision.

 

[BY2K]

What was that about Zelda needing to sale 2M to be profitable?

 

[thekonamicode]

Happened to most of us when Michael Keaton was cast.

I was 7 years old, so Michael Keaton was much taller than I was at the time.

 

[Maxinas]

What was that about Zelda needing to sale 2M to be profitable?

Cover development costs

 

[Gutss]

That's his shtick. Don't mind him. It was obvious not showing it at E3 was a last minute decision.

Its all good mate, and its all coming together, im excited more for the nx reveal now.

 

[Hilarion]

Theoretically Capcom or Konami make sense if Nintendo wanted a M&A with an unmerged company who held a lot of IPs they could use. I think Konami makes sense IP wise.

Isn't Konami a bigger company than Nintendo is? I thought Konami's market cap was something ridiculous like $40 billion.

EDIT: my math was off a decimal place, ignore. It's slightly over 5 billion.

 

[javac]

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2016/resolution_notice1606.pdf
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2016/breport_1603.pdf

 

[tebunker]

Isn't Konami a bigger company than Nintendo is? I thought Konami's market cap was something ridiculous like $40 billion.

Not sure how big Konami'd market cap is but that can be overcome. Honestly the real issue is that Konami has no interest in being in the normal gaming business. Its pachi slots and gyms for them. Nintendo could try to pry some of their IP away but that's nothing more than a fan boy fantasy.

People need to come to the rea conclusion that Konami as a video game company is all but gone forever.

 

[SweetDonuts]

Would it even be possible for competitors to copy their gimmick to a good standard within 8 months?

 

[orthodoxy1095]

Not sure how big Konami'd market cap is but that can be overcome. Honestly the real issue is that Konami has no interest in being in the normal gaming business. Its pachi slots and gyms for them. Nintendo could try to pry some of their IP away but that's nothing more than a fan boy fantasy.

People need to come to the rea conclusion that Konami as a video game company is all but gone forever.

for now

 

[thefro]

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2016/resolution_notice1606.pdf
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2016/breport_1603.pdf

No report in English yet, but the resolution notice is up already in English
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2016/resolution_notice1606e.pdf

 

[Calm Mind]

for now

Someone is going to trip on that cord connected to the respirator one day.

 

[Tom Nook Sawyer]

Would it even be possible for competitors to copy their gimmick to a good standard within 8 months?

As I said before, they don't need to. Coming out at any point could be damaging, and the sooner they know what's coming, the sooner they can get their version out. Even if it's after the NX's launch, it could still have a major impact on Nintendo

 

[AdanVC]

Would it even be possible for competitors to copy their gimmick to a good standard within 8 months?

Ugh now I'm worried that because of this, Nintendo will wait till freaking november or december to announce the damn thing.

 

[VendettaRed07]

Is this thread worthy?

More thread worthy than the majority of NX threads have been

 

[VendettaRed07]

Ugh now I'm worried that because of this, Nintendo will wait till freaking november or december to announce the damn thing.

They are probably just waiting till Sony reveals the PS4k. I don't think we'll have to wait much longer to hear about it.

December is too late to reveal if they are serious about March.

 

[Schnozberry]

As I said before, they don't need to. Coming out at any point could be damaging, and the sooner they know what's coming, the sooner they can get their version out. Even if it's after the NX's launch, it could still have a major impact on Nintendo

Seems like Nintendo wants to preserve the uniqueness of their idea in order to capitalize on the launch and first NX holiday season. I can understand their approach even if it is agonizing for hardcore Nintendo fans.

 

[Kodaman]

So 2M for Zelda to break even.

That'd be in the low spectrum of AAA productions wouldn't it?

 

[jmizzal]

"Shinya Takahashi: By using resources made for Zelda on other software, we can make many compact titles."

This is interesting, they might be using the Zelda engine for other NX games, Xenoblade NX using that physics engine

 

[KingBroly]

So 2M for Zelda break even.

That'd be in the low spectrum of AAA productions wouldn't it?

I think that's 2007 expectations to break even.

 

[Ōkami]

Captain Toad 2 with Zelda assets.

 

[Doctre81]

"Shinya Takahashi: By using resources made for Zelda on other software, we can make many compact titles."

This is interesting, they might be using the Zelda engine for other NX games, Xenoblade NX using that physics engine

Well OOT technially used the mario 64 engine so this wouldnt be the first time they did something similar.

 

[KingBroly]

Capitan Todd 2 with Zelda assets.

Fixed

 

[AntMurda]

"Shinya Takahashi: By using resources made for Zelda on other software, we can make many compact titles."

It's an open world engine with lots of physics and all
sorts of varying mechanics. I think Takahashi is saying even small elements of the engine can be reused to make compact games with smaller teams.

 

[DecoReturns]

Mother 4 with the Zelda Engine.
Actually all the long forgotten ips with the Zelda Engine.
Everything is open Air

 

[MuchoMalo]

Miyamoto said NX was to be shown at E3, needs to be finished before information is released. They don't want nobody copying their ideas.

Zelda was really popular though.

Well, now everyone is going to take this as confirmation of a delay to Holiday 2017.

 

[Calm Mind]

Well, now I'm going to take this as confirmation of a delay to Holiday 2017.

FTFY

 

[10k]

Fixed

Capitan Todd 2: Among Trackers

 

[casiopao]

So 2M for Zelda to break even.

That'd be in the low spectrum of AAA productions wouldn't it?

Wait 2M is low spectrum? I mean, does normal AAA games required like at least 5million to 10 million to even break even here?

 

[grandjedi6]

Would it even be possible for competitors to copy their gimmick to a good standard within 8 months?

They're probably more worried about another situation like the six axis

 

[shinra-bansho]

I'm curious what they think could be successfully and threateningly copied in 9 months as well if that's really the reason for delaying the unveil.

For which they apparently have no intellectual property protection to prevent replication.

 

[Toparaman]

That quote about fear of imitators is super interesting. Sounds like confidence to me. With the Wii U the vibe felt more like "we kinda don't know what to do next".

 

[Schnozberry]

"Shinya Takahashi: By using resources made for Zelda on other software, we can make many compact titles."

This is interesting, they might be using the Zelda engine for other NX games, Xenoblade NX using that physics engine

Would seem to be a good fit for any number of franchises. "Open Air" Metroid would have people shitting their pants.

 

[MuchoMalo]

See, to me though those are all great examples of why unveiling it doesn't matter, since their competitors all suck at this stuff.

I laughed at the bluntness of this response much harder than I should have.

FTFY

No, I'm still confident that the target is March 2017.

 

[Ōkami]

Nintendo may not be counting Zelda's engine as part of it's budget if they plan to use it to more games, then it falls under developmment tools expenses and under a bunch of other things. That would explain why Zelda needs to sell so little.

Or maybe they're the most cost effective developer in the world.

 

[Schnozberry]

For which they apparently have no intellectual property protection to prevent replication.

Probably a combination of existing non-proprietary technology that could be reverse engineered.

 

[Who]

How is 2M to break even even possible?

The game took like 10 years to make

 

[Calm Mind]

See, to me though those are all great examples of why unveiling it doesn't matter, since their competitors all suck at this stuff.

No lies detected there.

 

[Serenitynow]

For which they apparently have no intellectual property protection to prevent replication.

To be fair, a concept can be replicated a number of ways that circumvent patents, ala the Move.

 

[MuchoMalo]

Kimishima legit shook by Brexit.

Of course he is. This completely destroyed his plans, and most likely Nintendo is currently trying to decide if they should move forward at the risk of being a loss leader, or if they should make additional cuts to the hardware to become profitable again. They could just raise the price, but looking at Wii U I don't think they'd want to.

This is probably going to affect Neo's price as well. $450 is likely now, I'd say.

 

[Fourth Storm]

How is 2M to break even even possible?

The game took like 10 years to make

They're saying 5 years. Doesn't look like any CGI or much VA. So there's a huge slice of your average AAA budget. Marketing has also tbd. Nintendo know how to cut the corners, though.