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Nintendo's Marko Hein

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E3 2005: "IT'S NOT ABOUT SPECS" - NINTENDO'S MARKO HEIN

European exec deflects allegations that Revolution won't punch with the same processing power as Xbox 360 and PS3

5:13 The Nintendo Revolution may not be as powerful as Sony's PS3 and Xbox 360 when it launches next year, but it will provide a far better experience and open up gaming to a whole new audience.

That's according to Marko Hein, Nintendo's European head of product analysis and online. While Revolution was unveiled yesterday, the lack of technical specifications on offer was notable.

"It's not about specs," claimed Hein when CVG.com spoke with him today. "It's like in a car - having 400 bhp sounds very nice, you can drive 300 kph, but if the drive isn't enjoyable then what's the point?"

For Hein and Nintendo - once again - it's all about the gamer. "For us the emphasis is on the games and the actual gaming experience, and not on the hardware. Microsoft may well show off a lot of specifications, but that doesn't mean it will have the best choice of games."

Hein then took a swipe at the PS3 trailers shown at Sony's press event on Monday - the subject of much 'were they real/were they rendered' debate. "Let's look at the games, and not rendered demos shown in a conference. I want to see a playable game."

Needless to say, Hein wouldn't be budged on the Revolution's revolution. Referring to Tuesday's rather sparse Revolution details Hein said, "we are very conservative about revealing too many details too early, because when you are doing something revolutionary then your competitors copy."

But the Revolution's controller is certainly a large part of the puzzle: "I think we have deliberately not shown the controller or talked about the controller because it is probably one part of the revolution."

Hein also talked about the Game Boy Micro, addressing the disappointment felt by many that the handheld is not a true GBA 2. "We always try to do the best with the existing hardware before we move onto the next hardware," he said. "The question is how do you reach different groups of people. I think nowadays you have to something a little cooler and more lifestyle, and that's where the GameBoy Micro fits."

So when will GBA 2 show itself? "It's too early to say, but it's well known that we are always working on hardware to keep up with technology and new ideas."

And when it comes, will it be part of the Revolution's revolution? "I have no information on that. But it's a good question..."

Check back soon for more of Hein's views on Game Boy Micro, Revolution, Nintendo going online, DS, and GameCube.

Graeme Boyd

http://www.computerandvideogames.co...eogames.com/news/news_story.php(que)id=119016
 
Hein then took a swipe at the PS3 trailers shown at Sony's press event on Monday - the subject of much 'were they real/were they rendered' debate. "Let's look at the games, and not rendered demos shown in a conference. I want to see a playable game."

so do i

i want to see playable nintendo games. You guys didn't even manage rendered demo's...

i love nintendo, but thats just pure spin :P
 
Clearly he has not been informed about the Thursdayaton.

Only the higher ups at Nintendo of Japan and Nintendo of America know. Well, and former Nintendo employees and every gaming forum on the net.
 
Krowley said:
so do i

i want to see playable nintendo games. You guys didn't even manage rendered demo's...

i love nintendo, but thats just pure spin :P


Whether they were rendered demos were not, clearly Nintendo felt that they could not compete with it on Tuesday, and probably ended up pulling the stuff they were planning to show.
 
"we are very conservative about revealing too many details too early, because when you are doing something revolutionary then your competitors copy."

Yes, like digital clicks and watering backpacks. Fuck you Nintendo, you didn't show anything cause you've got shit all at this point.

Oh and expanding the game market? Looking for a bigger audience? How about you concentrate on retaining what little fanbase you have before spearheading the non-gaming crowd. They're non-gaming cause they could care less about Videogames, and making it more accessible isn't going to get them to drop $200 on a games machine. Want to sell a Rev to my mom? sister? It's going to take more than gyroscopes to do that buddy. Maybe include a compact and vibrator and you've got something.

FUCK.
 
The Nintendo Revolution may not be as powerful as Sony's PS3 and Xbox 360 when it launches next year, but it will provide a far better experience and open up gaming to a whole new audience.

Your system comes out last and its the weakest... :lol :lol :lol
 
"I think we have deliberately not shown the controller or talked about the controller because it is probably one part of the revolution."

So i take it that's not the official PR line? Lame.

The confirmation that Rev is indeed technologically is a blow to me, if indeed true. i'd like it to be at least on equal ground with the weakest system of their competitors, or it's the Gamecube situation (weakest ports of all three) all over again, now with a legitimate excuse.

Innovation in gaming can come directly through conscious attempts as Nintendo's aiming, but also more indirectly thrhough having a fuckton of developer support, as was the case with the PS2. PS2 got that in the form of Ico, Katamari Damacy, and Disaster Report, to name a few. i like games like Animal Crossing and Wario Ware, but they were a bit too far between for me on the Gamecube.
 
Who is this guy really and since when did NOE > NLC?

I really would like to keep my hopes on the revs power matching at least the 360
I don't want to read this PR shit
 
AFAIK this will be the first time in history that a system will launch a good deal after its competition and be significantly less powerful. Nintendo seems to think no one will care cause "its all about the games", but that argument only works when you actually have games.
 
Pedigree Chum said:
Yes, like digital clicks and watering backpacks. Fuck you Nintendo, you didn't show anything cause you've got shit all at this point.

Oh and expanding the game market? Looking for a bigger audience? How about you concentrate on retaining what little fanbase you have before spearheading the non-gaming crowd. They're non-gaming cause they could care less about Videogames, and making it more accessible isn't going to get them to drop $200 on a games machine. Want to sell a Rev to my mom? sister? It's going to take more than gyroscopes to do that buddy. Maybe include a compact and vibrator and you've got something.

FUCK.


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No matter how Sexy the console is no matter how nice the Rev's Zelda

I will boycott Nintendo if they really intend to pull off this weak less powerful BS coming months after everyone else using the same companies as M$ to design chips.

FUCK YOU!
 
Pedigree Chum said:
Why yes, I am smoking a celebratory cigar after writing that post. Thanks for noticing.


I'm too much of a technology whore to buy the Revolution, at least at this point.
 
heh PS3 is my console of choice next gen and thats for the first time since i got my nes back in 85. oh well Nintendo's consoles are just secondary to me these days.
 
Smiles and Cries said:
No matter how Sexy the console is no matter how nice the Rev's Zelda

I will boycott Nintendo if they really intend to pull off this weak less powerful BS coming months after everyone else using the same companies as M$ to design chips.

FUCK YOU!

So I'm assuming you're doing less smiling and more crying at the moment?
 
i don't care about the power as long as it's way less expensive... now if they try to charge 300 for it, i would have a problem, but if it really launches at 150 to 200 bucks, i'll probably buy it on launch day... the retro game thing is cool as hell... i know the 1st party games will be great no matter what they look like, and i'm sure they'll look great compared to the cube.

it would be the perfect secondary console... like a console for casuals who don't like to pay 300 bucks for a game machine... in some ways it may not even be a traditional console..

think about the possibillity's of this backwards compatibility thing... the nes, n64 and snes are basicly being revived as "virtual" consoles... it's not the same as emulation, because nintendo is making it official... what if small game company's started designing nes games again and releasing them through the download system? what if you spent as much time downloading little puzzle games and shit like that as you did playing new rev games?

there is some pretty cool potential in what they've said so far.
 
Well, going for the retro angle and making official (I hope Ninty doesn't plan on ass-raping everyone with the prices on those old as dirt titles), yeah, it could have some cool shit happening. Indeed, it looks like Nintendo is aiming for being the ultimate secondary console purchase. That way, if they don't end up being first (will never happen anyway, IMO), they don't have to try and spin it. :lol "I meant to do that." /Peewee

Krowley's idea about new 'retro' content is cool and it would be fun to see it happen, but ultimately, Nintendo is still going to be judged by gamers on the basis of how it compares to its contemporaries in visuals and its must have library of new titles. The retro angle is only going to go so far. Show some new Revolution stuff, Nintendo.
 
Pedigree Chum said:
For me, it seems like Nintendo's not putting their whole ass into the next-gen. And that's sad.

Well not the whole ass in terms of graphics per-se. But in other aspects, they will totally outclasston MS and Sony.

Marko Hein sounds like a Mark Rein ripoff!!1
 
Krowley said:
it would be the perfect secondary console... like a console for casuals who don't like to pay 300 bucks for a game machine... in some ways it may not even be a traditional console.
Looking back, that's the problem i've had with their past two consoles. Both N64 and Gamecube had potential, and the Gamecube got off to a great start, but look where it is now. i wonder how many people are buying GCs compared to Xboxes, despite the low price and better quality (IMO of course) library of the GC.

Maybe Nintendo is content playing at best, second banana in the perception race, and relying on Pokemon, Mario, and Gameboy to remain the breadwinners. Or maybe many of us have simply grown beyond the franchises and games in general Nintendo clings to.

Frankly, i'm interested to see what today brings, but i'm not holding out hope Nintendo's going to turn everything around. A lot can happen in the year Nintendo has to launch, so i'm not counting them out yet, but at this point, it really feels as though they're not even in yet.
 
Question: didn't Nintendo at one point say they wanted to beat Sony to market next gen - that they didn't want to be last to release hardware again?

I'm sure someone high up in Nintendo said that to the press - but they seem to be gearing up to launch last again.
 
European exec deflects allegations that Revolution won't punch with the same processing power as Xbox 360 and PS3

I think everyone's conviently ignoring the title of the post.

yawn
 
Odnetnin said:
European exec deflects allegations that Revolution won't punch with the same processing power as Xbox 360 and PS3

I think everyone's conviently ignoring the title of the post.

yawn

I think you missed the line right below it:

The Nintendo Revolution may not be as powerful as Sony's PS3 and Xbox 360 when it launches next year
 
JayFro said:
I'm too much of a technology whore to buy the Revolution, at least at this point.
But what if it's weak, offers great Nintendo games, and only costs $150; would you buy one?

How about at $100?

Something to think about.
 
That would suck if Revolution has the worst looking games next gen, but part of me likes that they're not going the direction Sony's going in. The best that company can do is turn their badly-aged controller into a boomerang.
 
Dragmire said:
That would suck if Revolution has the worst looking games next gen, but part of me likes that they're not going the direction Sony's going in. The best that company can do is turn their badly-aged controller into a boomerang.

Nah - it has buttons on it. That makes it a Batarang.
 
Why are they openly admitting that revolution is weak? We haven't seen any footage yet.

Footage of well constructed artistic games could belie the notion that rev is weaker than the competition. These things honestly do mean more than specs.

However, saying rev is weak when we haven't seen any games immediately biases people against it. Not good PR at all.

Funny thing is that this is obviously the company line.
 
Nintendo's on the right path IMO. Look at what's happening right now at E3--Sony went for MS's throat with their press conference. The technology war is escalating, making it hard for Nintendo to compete on that front. On the other hand, the technology focus has also giving Nintendo other areas to differentiate itself. I the BC with all past Nintendo console is a brilliant idea IMO, and it can be taken to another level if they also allow newly translated /unreleased titles, online connectivity with older multiplayer games, and even remixes and new games based on the old hardware. Nintendo has a huge library to leverage.

With the small form factor and emphasis on the software and new types of control, I expect this console to relatively inexpensive compared to the others, making it the perfect complimentary system. Again, I think that's smart. Fanboys are going to disagree of course and act like Nintendo is pulling a Sega or doesn't care, but they need to get over themselves. Nintendo runs a solid business, and the kind of war that Sony and MS are waging isn't worth it when they can profit from emphasizing other things. They see themselves as the new Apple IMO, and that isn't a bad thing at all except for folks that must validate their choices in terms of who has the most power or how their console ranks along with the others.
 
I still think it's stupid to tell the world your console is technologically inferior without showing the world why it won't matter.

Nontheless, I'm still hoping the actual games will look good. I hardly regretting that Zelda:TP is not a next-gen game so graphics are everything. Realism requires alot of graphics rendering power but if the game is going to be artsy it can actually get away with some simplifications and still be convincing.
 
Wait... back up a sec... who the hell can't have fun in a car that has 400bhp?!?!?! ;)

IF folks haven't realized it yet Nintendo has stepped out of the arms race... they have decided to focus on doing what they do best... be a niche company. They were VERY profitable at it this generation, and they'll probably be very profitable at it next generation.

They'll complement the other systems in your home... not supplant them.
 
5:13 The Nintendo Revolution may not be as powerful as Sony's PS3 and Xbox 360 when it launches next year, but it will provide a far better experience and open up gaming to a whole new audience.
Fuck.. it was nice knowing you Nintendo. PS3 it is for me.
 
D-X said:
If Nintendo can't be bothered to compete then I can't be bothered to buy their products.

This is what I can't understand. If the machine comes in under 200 dollars and comes packed with a cutting edge control system and the ability to play all of Nintendo's console catalogue, you don't think it wouldn't make a nice compliment to your PS3 or X360? Why do they have to piss away their bank on a technology war that they will certainly lose against Sony? Do you guys play games, or do you play technology?
 
ge-man said:
This is what I can't understand. If the machine comes in under 200 dollars and comes packed with a cutting edge control system and the ability to play all of Nintendo's console catalogue, you don't think it wouldn't make a nice compliment to your PS3 or X360? Why do they have to piss away their bank on a technology war that they will certainly lose against Sony?

It’s not his fault everyone has been drinking sony brand Kool-Aid during E3.
 
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