Empyrean Heaven
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Not to mention the butchering JR and Striker will give many of the names. It made me cringe in those hype videos for Striker to pronounce Shinsuke as "Shin-Soo-Key". It's "Shin-skay", goddammit!
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NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 9 (OT) SURABANAKA DESU!!!
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Not to mention the butchering JR and Striker will give many of the names. It made me cringe in those hype videos for Striker to pronounce Shinsuke as "Shin-Soo-Key". It's "Shin-skay", goddammit!
I still dont understand why people think JR caling this is a good thing. Dude doesnt know the product, the wrestlers or the moves. The entire thing will probably feel like someone doing a poor imitation of him
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I liked Striker but I think he's out of his depth here. I wish GFW would have gone with John Pollock from The Fight Network. He's actually up to date with NJPW in the first place and knows so much, and he's as inoffensive a commentator as ever. Great dude, wish he got the gig.
Liquidsnake
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Im very excited. I just don't know how JR can go 4 hours without a bathroom break.
LARIATOOOOOOO
Empyrean Heaven
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Catheter bag.
It's part of a bigger problem i foresee. How can you tell a story if you don't know the characters in the story?
As opposed to listening to Japanese commentary where you won't even understand the story anyway? At least JR and Striker will hopefully give it their best shot to do some research.
Striker seems to have a good grasp on all the storylines to be honest.
Empyrean Heaven
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I'm kind of a Japanophile so it just kind of irks me. It's also been going on since the 90's when puro guys started appearing for WCW and WWF and you got to hear names like Ken-soo-key Sasaki and The Great Sa-Soo-Kay. I figured that with the rise of puro thanks to exposure through Youtube that this would go away but nope.
I might not understand a single word, but i understand the emotion coming through via tone and pacing.
Empyrean Heaven
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If you want the backstory, read my OP, but puro really just boils down to one guy or team wanting to beat the other guy or team because he/they dislikes him/them or wants his/their title. There's no bullshit with shampoo commercials or anything.
Honestly, storytelling really takes a back seat to athleticism and action in puro, so just sit back and enjoy the stiffness.
Oh i know the story, i just feel like complaining about JR and Striker
The Yo Tornado
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I'm surprised the GFW promos haven't focused on Shinsuke at all. He'd get over huge in front of an American audience. Nakamura/Ibushi have a legit shot at putting on MOTY. The people I'm watching it with get excited over suicide dives so they're going to wet themselves once they see what Ibushi is capable of.
Empyrean Heaven
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http://pwinsider.com/article/89382/new-japan-tokyo-dome-ppv-update.html?p=1
Can't believe I missed this, although it is unconfirmed. Will update the OP...
Also, can a mod edit the topic title to "Wrestle Kingdom 9 in Tokyo Dome"? Kind of a semantics change, I know, but it is the full official title of the event.
I can't believe that some people are complaining about JR. do you not realize who we are talking about here? I bet we would be amazed at the hours he has put in to gt ready for this show.
On top of that, he will only get better the more he does it. I can't wait to see/hear his performance.
On top of that, he will only get better the more he does it. I can't wait to see/hear his performance.
shaowebb
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And he's taking on Kota Ibushi no less! I am soooooooooooooo fucking hype for this one. This is one of the best cards I've ever seen. Hopefully with JR announcing it'll finally wake some folks up and get more people to watch.
Biggu Bosu
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$34.99 PPV price, ridiculous
I know there is a the Japanese streaming option but I rather the process not be a pain, I'm really only interested because of JR
FallingEdge
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how is that ridiculous?
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lol
move along then, nothing to see here. you can subscribe to JR's podcast and listen to his bigoted ass talk about "he-shes" all day if you'd rather. It's free.
Not really the same thing. The gracies didn't know how to work. Sakuraba and Suzuki know how to work this style with there eyes closed. This match is pure puroresu and for me could steal the show. It's going to be classic UWF/UWFI style and what better place to see it than the biggest show of the year. Remember Shoot style puroresu was about well before MMA. It should be epic and I hope it's booked correctly with no interference no shenanigans like a true UWF style match.
Will be interesting to see how JR calls this one. No hitting the ropes, no climbing the ropes, no pinfalls. Totally different to anything his called before.
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I've just grown so tired of shoot style matches. I'd love to be surprised, but I haven't enjoyed a Sakuraba match since WK7 with Nakamura.
Biggu Bosu
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Because American wrestling fans largely don't have a clue about NJPW, even the hardcore fans, so asking them to drop $35 is a reach to say the least. $19.99 would have been the sweet spot
JR is by far and away the greatest commentator ever, that means something, I don't get your hatred for him as it seems personal which I'm not interested in
There are few things I'm more excited for than Wrestle Kingdom 9 this Saturday. We're having a big party at my folks house, watching it live, and then going out for breakfast.
My parents, god bless 'em, are going to bed at 5 p.m. so they can stay up and watch this with myself, the Mrs., and a few friends. They've been ordering wrestling PPVs for me since Wrestlemania VI. They even let me call Mean Gene's shitty hotline.
My parents, god bless 'em, are going to bed at 5 p.m. so they can stay up and watch this with myself, the Mrs., and a few friends. They've been ordering wrestling PPVs for me since Wrestlemania VI. They even let me call Mean Gene's shitty hotline.
Empyrean Heaven
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Yeah, I know, I'm more or less referring to 2000-2003 where Inoki tried to do the UWFi style and brought in a bunch of shoot guys who didn't know how to work. Combine that with Choshu's shitty booking, NOAH absolutely crushing everything in Japan at that time, and the Brock Lesnar disaster, and it's a miracle NJPW survived. Meanwhile Shithead Inoki has his overblown indy promotion that isn't sure if it wants to be puro or MMA and is off hanging out with Kim Jong Un. Douchebag.
shaowebb
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ITS A 7 AND A HALF HOUR PAY PER VIEW
Look up Wrestle Kingdom 8 on Daily Motion or something if you don't believe me. This thing is a fucking steal.
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I dunno, I'd definitely say I prefer the over the top JR from the Attitude Era to a lot of stuff, but the other 'eras' of JR calling matches I don't feel strongly about. The subdued, normal calling of matches he did in say, WCW or pre-WCW feel pretty vanilla to me. I don't expect much emotion out of him this go-round. Doesn't really matter as I'm going the NJPW World route as I prefer the Japanese commentary, but I am curious how he'll do with Striker. I seem to remember those two not getting along too well in WWE.
Empyrean Heaven
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4 hours of the best wrestling in the world for almost half the price of WrestleMania. That's one hell of a deal.
Wait what? 7 and a half fucking hours? Someone told me it was four hours. I assume that is with multiple 30 minute intermissions in between? The card is stacked and i'm amped for it, but no way is there enough content to fill god damn near 8 hours.
e: Unless there's a 3 hour preshow in which case move along nothing to see here.
slightconfuse
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Anyone else skeptcal of,the English version . leaning NJPW,world
I actually agree with this...
I think Matt Striker will do a better job with commentary than JR. People forget about his lukewarm commentary during wm 25 and his meh commentary in NXT. The "BAH GAWD" JR is gone.
Well the 44.99 price for the English version makes me a bit skeptical.
I just wonder if John Pollock was chosen instead of Striker would there be this doubt on the English commentary?
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I would feel instantly better, because I know Pollock would be busting his ass and could carry the whole thing if he needed to. He did the Russian Combat Sports thing and for like 13 hours he was a goddamn iron man at it, and studied so much. He's fantastic.
So yeah I don't know how to feel about Striker.
slightconfuse
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more skeptical about the 4 hr time limit then commentary. Dont want a halloween havoc 98 . JR and striker will be fine , I think
I've seen Lucha Underground.
Which is exactly why I'm not skeptical. He's been great on it.
His partner is Vampiro....he's pretty much doing this shit by himself :/
Hey, I listen to a lot of his podcasts and I don't recall any "he-she" talk and I'd like to think I'm pretty sensitive to transphobia. When did he say such a thing?
Ehhhh.
Yeah, he's been doing a great job carrying Vamp, who is the worst announcer of 2014. But still, the commentary is still very ehh. It's just that it shows he's not familar with the product and i really think it's gonna show worse with NJPW.
On the bright side!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1351wi_kota-ibushi-vs-shinsuke-nakamura-njpw_sport
The rematch is gonna be great!
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I had no issues but I think that one was on a brief delay. They've been doing others live and people haven't complained at all. I haven't been awake at the right time to watch em, though.
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