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[Dreams-Visions]

When did the shooting actually happen? We see him drop the rifle and hit the ground, but then he dives forward? Did he get shot when he dived forward or before that? Cause all I could imagine if it was justified, was that it looked like he was diving forward towards the dropped rifle? I could see that fear. But if they started shooting before then when he was just standing there, then that is messed up. Can't tell without audio really.

that was all after he was shot and had dropped the airgun.

 

[Kettch]

When did the shooting actually happen? We see him drop the rifle and hit the ground, but then he dives forward? Did he get shot when he dived forward or before that? Cause all I could imagine if it was justified, was that it looked like he was diving forward towards the dropped rifle? I could see that fear. But if they started shooting before then when he was just standing there, then that is messed up. Can't tell without audio really.

The special prosecutor (who seemed quite in favor of no indictment) stated that all evidence pointed toward the shooting happening while the officers were out of frame. He gets shot twice before (or during) dropping the gun and no more shots were fired.

Video here:

http://www.whio.com/videos/news/walmart-shooting-in-store-video-shows-crawford/vCtBwq/

 

[kewlmyc]

The whio video is confusing the shit out of me. He falls to the ground, gets back up and the goes down again, but that seems to go against what we've been told. I saw it as this...

1. He goes down to the ground and drops the gun. I assume this is when he got shot the first time. The gun is on the ground.

2. He gets back up and goes back into the aisle. The gun is still on the ground. I assume he's checking out what is happening.

3. He falls back down to the ground, which I assume means he was shot again. He hasn't touched the gun since the first time it fell to the ground.

Am I correct in this or am I missing something?

 

[DarkKyo]

Cops were justified. Don't understand why they thought someone should be charged.

Real talk. If you're holding a toy designed to look like a weapon and a cop gives you orders, you should do exactly what the cops tell you to do.

Maybe the fucking store shouldn't sell something like that, then.

Or put a warning by the item: WARNING, PICKING UP PRODUCT MAY RESULT IN DEATH BY COPS

 

[TheOMan]

I don't feel it's productive to respond to someone who is openly hostile to me in threads that I don't even participate in.

What do you mean? Honest question as the threads mentioned have been ones you have participated in and your modus operandi when posting in such threads is very obvious.

???

 

[Ophiuchus]

In certain his mother and father already did..assuming his father was in the picture. Pretty rare..

Fuck you asshole

 

[Kettch]

Maybe the fucking store shouldn't sell something like that, then.

Or put a warning by the item: WARNING, PICKING UP PRODUCT MAY RESULT IN DEATH BY COPS

The whole "package/no package, behind counter or not" conversation seems pretty pointless to me. Someone could walk into the store with their own real rifle and be perfectly within their rights. The problem is that he got shot. That shouldn't have happened whether it was a real gun or not.

 

[Jmanunknown]

The whio video is confusing the shit out of me. He falls to the ground, gets back up and the goes down again, but that seems to go against what we've been told. I saw it as this...

1. He goes down to the ground and drops the gun. I assume this is when he got shot the first time. The gun is on the ground.

2. He gets back up and goes back into the aisle. The gun is still on the ground. I assume he's checking out what is happening.

3. He falls back down to the ground, which I assume means he was shot again. He hasn't touched the gun since the first time it fell to the ground.

Am I correct in this or am I missing something?

He never gets back up once he shot and once he was shot he dropped the gun immediately. They handcuff him and he cries out pain and dies right their on the floor in the walmart while the mother of his children and his father listen to the entire horrible incident. He probably never saw the cops or heard the cops until he was shot since he was on the phone. It all happened so fast within a five second span so it seems like he was never given a chance to put the gun down before the officer shot him. He was only shot twice once in the elbow and the fatal killing shot which hit his liver.

 

[Storm Chamber]

I wrote something witty, but I can't hide my sadness with sarcasm anymore.

Quitter

 

[TheChocolateWar]

The whole "package/no package, behind counter or not" conversation seems pretty pointless to me. Someone could walk into the store with their own real rifle and be perfectly within their rights. The problem is that he got shot. That shouldn't have happened whether it was a real gun or not.

Well the conversation is relevant because we are discussing how to hold Walmart liable, not the cops, for the death.

 

[DonasaurusRex]

Well the conversation is relevant because we are discussing how to hold Walmart liable, not the cops, for the death.

Its pointless wal mart will either settle or get out of any responsibility especially since the cops did nothing to find out the situation from the front desk or a Wal Mart employee. If they try and go after wal mart the shit will really hit the fan, since the question of wtf were you thinking will truly become evident.

 

[JDSN]

I thought the white lady that died indirectly because of this would inspire some real need for justice but nope.