I personally don't care about the character design.
If the game is good then I'm good.
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Nobody talks about male JRPG characters who look like girls
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If the game is good then I'm good.
hyperbertha
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The feminine guys are attractive. Look a many of the male models. They look pretty feminine. Japan does not make things look repulsive. Western devs actuvely try to do it. It's not the same lmaoThat’s true. Japan has feminine guys and the west has masculine girls.
Different trends and that is fine.
KàIRóS
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If a JRPG does this, do we just say it's normal? Let's talk!
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Another example, Miquella, suggested by another user, added(erased the user's name because he used "triggered" emoji lol).
You know who looks even more feminine in each of those games? THE GIRLS
bundylove
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Asian women dont like cool guys, masculine guys, guys with tattos , guys with confidence etc.
Thats why.
I was all over south east asia many times for years and this is my take away.
Asian women specificaly japanese women are very controling, very demanding, they want a little puppy they can spit on and take their money and control all financials etc.
Thats why.
I was all over south east asia many times for years and this is my take away.
Asian women specificaly japanese women are very controling, very demanding, they want a little puppy they can spit on and take their money and control all financials etc.
captainnapalm
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Anime is stylized - so by its nature it can get away with more stylized and out there representations. You can't compare that with ultra realistic western games. And of course the women are way more feminine in comparison so you're still getting the contrast.
Also - there is a double standard. Deal with it. Men can lean slightly feminine and it can still look good. Think rock stars for example. Whereas women look bizarre and creepy when they put beards on and try to look like men. Things don't always go both ways.
Also - there is a double standard. Deal with it. Men can lean slightly feminine and it can still look good. Think rock stars for example. Whereas women look bizarre and creepy when they put beards on and try to look like men. Things don't always go both ways.
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ReyBrujo
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Ah, yeah, I just threw the names of old lean male characters but didn't really searched for them, Rose escaped me completely.
Complistic
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Nobody talks about male JRPG characters
Nonehxc
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WHO THE FUCK SHAVED MY WIFE AERITH'S SQUATTER I DEMAND ANSWERS SQUARECloud has bigger cakes than Aerith.
I swear I've seen brooms with more booty than this.
Ironman_Bad
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Girly boys are no threat to nerds if anything they boost their self esteem...a girl with biceps however watch out 
Polygonal_Sprite
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Why my man Link missing in action.
There's limit to feminity, our minds can't process more than that.You know who looks even more feminine in each of those games? THE GIRLS
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
You can be whatever you want to be sister.
Aenima
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Lol who is this nobody guy? I was complaining about Victoria Beckham being feautured as the main character in FF12 back in the PS2. Is just that alot of the examples you show are standard beauty in Asia. Just look at boy bands fom J-Pop and K-Pop.
In the west, masculine women are not the standard beauty anywhere. Look at instagram for reference, or girls bands as well. Its just an obcession by western developers cuz they following DEI guide lines to not objectify women and not to make male characters, so what we getting is Female maculine woma'ams that play like a male character.
In the west, masculine women are not the standard beauty anywhere. Look at instagram for reference, or girls bands as well. Its just an obcession by western developers cuz they following DEI guide lines to not objectify women and not to make male characters, so what we getting is Female maculine woma'ams that play like a male character.
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ChoosableOne
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
He was quite the chad, at least until Twilight Princess were they twinkified him to the max.Leave him alone!
You won't fool me today Satan.
Asians aren't lonely, and when you always hanging out guess what, you spend a lot more than usual, I have no issues with that lifestyle but I prefer staying at home more often.
Zacfoldor
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I'll say this. If you were a fan of MGS and a kid, getting MGS2 and finding out that Snake isn't in...most of it...was a huge letdown.
In retrospect we can see that it may have been a genius move we are told from the artsy fartsy side of the hobby, but I digress...
If you looooovvvveeeddd Raiden back then I'd guess either you skipped MGS1 completely or you were old enough by then to withhold your initial disappointment and allow time for the game to shine in its own light.
But BRUH, as a kid David Hayter made MGS MGS as much as the game did....also there was already a still better known Raiden in gaming so even the name fucked me up as a kid. It's like if they had made a Batman animated movie without Batman or Kevin Conroy in it, around when Phantasm came out. How could anyone not be at least a little disappointed initially if they were already a fan? I think a lot of people's first console was PS2 and they never knew what they were missing so they didn't have any frame of reference to be disappointed and were able to accept the game in its own right.
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bundylove
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I dont think i made my point.
Japanese women once in a relationship or in a marrige, control the man and the household. The men have to give them all the money and their wage and the wife will give the man as much as she thinks he needs.
They want this obedient submissive feminin guy/man in their life so by their own culture they created this type of jaoanese male idol.
They will pick these anime type femalish guys over someone like me no matter how much better i look.
Sure they are down to fuck out of curiosity or dare but they would never pick anyone else who is more like a real independent man.
Not that i care as they are just awful in bed anyways plus i am now a family man.
Werewolf Jones
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Victoria Beckham? LMAO. I'm dead.
Rentahamster
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What do you mean nobody I talk about them all the time on my Tumblr.
ShadyAcshuns
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Not just games but anime as well. I'm seeing guys with ribbons in their hair.
Griffon
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It doesn't bother me. Japanese author do what they want and it's not out of activism or to sermon 'men".
People pretending it's the same as what woke studios do are either absolute morons or more likely activists themselves.
The same intellectual dishonesty and constant gaslighty at work.
The premise of this thread is a gotcha for stupid people who aren't capable to comprehend intent.
People pretending it's the same as what woke studios do are either absolute morons or more likely activists themselves.
The same intellectual dishonesty and constant gaslighty at work.
The premise of this thread is a gotcha for stupid people who aren't capable to comprehend intent.
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Aenima
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Fbh
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I mean yeah. The main character having the worst design (and often most boring personality) out of the entire cast is a pretty common JRPG trope.
Thankfully the rest of the cast usually makes up for it. Hell in games like Persona or DQ the entire story is often more about the other characters, as the main one is just a borderline mute standin for the player
That said, it's easier to get away with these sort of design decision with a stylized artstyle.
Your non white, short hair, tombish female warrior in non sexualized armor also looks better in anime format:
Thankfully the rest of the cast usually makes up for it. Hell in games like Persona or DQ the entire story is often more about the other characters, as the main one is just a borderline mute standin for the player
That said, it's easier to get away with these sort of design decision with a stylized artstyle.
Your non white, short hair, tombish female warrior in non sexualized armor also looks better in anime format:
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It's exactly the same. Everything else is just bias and insecurity.
Even more so, if you want "realism", and boy, some here live and die by that "realism" in western games, you NEED a physically strong woman to be able to punch those zombies and swing that sword in those shitty western games.
Japanese games automatically deny realism, while western games push for it. It's perfectly fine either way. I don't expect a 48 kg super-model chick (but with plus size breast ofc) to kick the shit out of the baddies in a game that strives for realism, it's beyond retarded.
darrylgorn
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I mean, the simple solution, is don't watch anime shit but that's just me.
Gambit2483
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Didn't we already have this argument with MGS2/Raiden...
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namenotfound
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Wat. The only one I'd possibly mistake as a girl is the one from Shin Megami Tensei V and I guess the one on the right but can't see their face and haven't played the game. Also do you not see what's popular hairstyle for guys these days. It's not a buzz cut. It's not a skin fade. It's like 2 inches+ length to neck long organized messy like the old emo and scene cultures without the angst or curly.
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Women don't like perfect men, they prefer who got released from prison recently over business owners, they have the privilege to pick,it's their choice.
ChoosableOne
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Wasn't Lightning a girl?
consoul
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U n i o n 0015
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People have been talking about this ever since FF7 came out and the Nomura look became dominant.
Anybody remember this?
Anybody remember this?
HerjansEagleFeeder
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lol obviously OP doesn't watch CCP TV like the rest of us. Everybody knows these guys make other guys gay.
ChoosableOne
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Robot Carnival
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it's all about context and intent. they're not here to preach some message. at most they're just showing their preference/fetish, and I'm perfectly fine with that. especially when the girls in those games are so much easier on the eyes than the western outputs had been lately.
namenotfound
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I see. That reminds me that Jesus is a femboy
namenotfound
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Also that reminds me that for modern American young males that have gotten into online gym/frat culture, haircare (long hair taken care as well as women)/skincare/and tight fitting fashion seems growing in popularity
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Gambit2483
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namenotfound
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This reminds me of working at a civilian DoD facility and the old guys getting mad at the guys aged 20-40 who had neck length hair
near
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Japan as a society does not have a conflict with gender roles. While here in the west we’re being introduced to a new set of rules, were our social construct of masculinity is undergoing change and this is now being implemented into character designs, that is why there is push back. I alluded to this in another thread the other day. Japan and quite a few other regions in Asia do not share our views on masculinity, especially with the recent cultural shift. OP has characters that do not represent how we define physical masculinity, but they all still represent men, or young males without effeminate connotations to the Japanese crowd.
I also think Miquella is an outlier so far as character designs go from a Japanese dev. You’ll probably find lore on it, I haven’t play SotE yet. But if I recall correctly in ER, without spoiling anything there is a woman who is also a man under a different name who are bosses. They’re demigods and so is Miquella who happens to be their child.
I also think Miquella is an outlier so far as character designs go from a Japanese dev. You’ll probably find lore on it, I haven’t play SotE yet. But if I recall correctly in ER, without spoiling anything there is a woman who is also a man under a different name who are bosses. They’re demigods and so is Miquella who happens to be their child.
You've real experience but their perception before that isn't realistic.
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