Non Smokers: How do you look at smokers?

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I used to smoke long time ago, but today I feel sorry for smokers because it really is a tough habit to break. I still get the urge once in a blue moon and may indulge if I'm a little tipsy.

One thing that I find absolutely ridiculous, however, are people who complain about smokers "polluting the air", then proceed to get in their car. Fucking stupid.
 
White Man said:
Oh, I love the bias against smokers. Eat your propaganda up good, kiddies.

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Sounds like someone here hasn't heard our message!
 
Meier said:
There's a no smoking law in Florida in restraunts and stuff, but if the establishment makes x ammount of money from alcohol, then it's legal. So every bar around allows it and it's awful. Go to a concert at The Beta Bar and you'll smell like you smoked 2 packs just being there. :(

Huh that's weird, almost none of the bars here in Jacksonville allow smoking. Only specific Cigar bars really.
 
I see it as a personal decision. If they don't mind spending the money to feed their habit and damage themselves, that's on them. Sure, cigarettes are made to be addictive, but shaking them is a matter of will; my chain-smoking dad dropped the habit cold turkey the second he found out my mom was pregnant, and hasn't smoked since.
 
Great King Bowser said:
My opinion is it sucks to be them. Wallet, health etc.

This is largely my opinion. I just find it entertaining that so many people shove them into this bleak social caste like it's some sort of cultural taboo. You'd think these people were non-functional alcoholics or heroin addicts judging by the remarks of some of the people in this thread. The world's not Sesame Street, folks, and if smokers are the most contemptible set of people you encounter out in the wild, you're clearly not living in my world. Don't hate over the small stuff, for the love of god.

I kinda think smoking is sexy. It doesn't bug me at all.

Damned straight. If the right person is smoking in the right way, it can come across as very cool or very sexy.
 
Exactly. Whenever I watch Lost In Translation, I can't shake the fact that Scarlett Johansson looks very sexy and sensual while smoking. If I ever saw Ben R. or Chris Evans smoking, I would go bananas. I just think it's very rebelious and a non-issue.

Make no mistake - I don't smoke. I have no desire to smoke, but I in no way hold it against people who do.
 
Yeah, that South Park episode was pretty hilarious. I'm not a smoker, and even I was sick of those "truth" ads.

White Man said:
This is largely my opinion. I just find it entertaining that so many people shove them into this bleak social caste like it's some sort of cultural taboo. You'd think these people were non-functional alcoholics or heroin addicts judging by the remarks of some of the people in this thread. The world's not Sesame Street, folks, and if smokers are the most contemptible set of people you encounter out in the wild, you're clearly not living in my world. Don't hate over the small stuff, for the love of god.
Well said.
 
My best friend's wife has smoked for years, despite both of our efforts to get her to quit... but as long as they have enough respect to not light up in front of me (I'm allergic to smoke) then its their decision. Although, ever since they passed the NYS anti smoking bill, there really is something to be said for coming out of a club/bar not reeking of smoke with bloodshot eyes.
 
White Man said:
This is largely my opinion. I just find it entertaining that so many people shove them into this bleak social caste like it's some sort of cultural taboo. You'd think these people were non-functional alcoholics or heroin addicts judging by the remarks of some of the people in this thread. The world's not Sesame Street, folks, and if smokers are the most contemptible set of people you encounter out in the wild, you're clearly not living in my world. Don't hate over the small stuff, for the love of god.



Damned straight. If the right person is smoking in the right way, it can come across as very cool or very sexy.
I don't think i've seen a lot of hate in this thread. I've seen negativity, but thats not the same as hate. I don't hate a smoker any more than I hate a guy who works as a janitor. I don't think either one is a bad person, i'm just glad to not be them.
 
Tiger said:
I can't help but look at them as people owned by "the man". People who are stuck on this perpetual money pit merry-go-round.

I do have some pity for them, as I think cigarettes are clearly designed to keep them addicted, but then again, they chose to try it in the first place.



How do you feel about smokers?

before reading any of this thread I will say: "future cancer patients"
 
Tiger said:
I don't think i've seen a lot of hate in this thread. I've seen negativity, but thats not the same as hate. I don't hate a smoker any more than I hate a guy who works as a janitor. I don't think either one is a bad person, i'm just glad to not be them.

Well the word hate, spit and disdain has been used about smokers:P There's some irrational hate there, haha.

I do find it pretty funny how many people hate smokers but smoke weed. It's kinda bizarre.
 
I don't like being around when they smoke or if they smell like cigarettes, but I think smokers are OK as long as they're good people. I do always picture a black lung whenever I hear the word smoker.
 
I don't particularily care if somebody smokes or if they don't, I just find the whole smoking habit laughably out of style. When I see somebody light up, I image them wearing a brown leisure suit in a 1970's basement, with orange shag carpet, and fake wood panelling on the walls.
 
White Man said:
Damned straight. If the right person is smoking in the right way, it can come across as very cool or very sexy.

I've yet to see this, or at least the "very sexy" part of it. And I've only seen the "very cool" part in films...everyone else I see in real life smoking just makes me wonder how long it'll be before they get lung cancer.

Nick said:
Exactly. Whenever I watch Lost In Translation, I can't shake the fact that Scarlett Johansson looks very sexy and sensual while smoking. If I ever saw Ben R. or Chris Evans smoking, I would go bananas. I just think it's very rebelious and a non-issue.

Make no mistake - I don't smoke. I have no desire to smoke, but I in no way hold it against people who do.

In all honesty, that was the only part I disliked about her character. I thought the fact that she was a smoker was a real downer given the rest of her personality and she was sexiest in the scenes when she wasn't smoking IMO.

But I agree with White Man...some of the extremism against smoking is really surprising for me. I don't smoke and find the action to be as stupid as everyone else, but it's not like it disgusts me so long as I'm not forced to be around it.
 
Tiger said:
I can't help but look at them as people owned by "the man". People who are stuck on this perpetual money pit merry-go-round.

I do have some pity for them, as I think cigarettes are clearly designed to keep them addicted, but then again, they chose to try it in the first place.



How do you feel about smokers?


What about cigar smokers? It's QUITE different from cigarettes and guess what, we're not addicted to them but enjoy smoking them. How do you feel about us poor shmucks?
 
people can smoke as much as they damn well please as long as they don't do it in a 10ft radius of me.
 
Manics said:
What about cigar smokers? It's QUITE different from cigarettes and guess what, we're not addicted to them but enjoy smoking them. How do you feel about us poor shmucks?

They care about the smell, so in some ways, they probably hate cigar smokers more.
 
Smokers and smoking in general really disgust me. I think if they want to kill themselves that bad just shoot yourself in the head or hang yourself or something.

It should be banned everywhere. If there wasnt secondhand smoke and it only affected the smokers i wouldnt care, but it effects everyone that is in the same room as the smoker, which is wrong.

The best part is almost all smokers are the ones that dropped out of high school and are uneducated. They believe its "their right" to smoke, but cant seem to realize it affects everyone around. I guess they dont hear about that during nascar races or monday night raw
 
They're just people who need a little extra to get through the crap they deal with. They're not gullible, you don't need much to sell people cigarettes. At the worst I find it a bit rude but your average person is a bigger jerkoff in a hundred ways much worse then a smoker.


Scene from Broken Arrow. Coolest smoking in recent cinema.
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White Man said:
They care about the smell, so in some ways, they probably hate cigar smokers more.


Cigar smoke is WAAAAAY more pleasant than cigarette smoke as there's no foreign chemicals and additives and crap. Cigarette smoke bugs me too but cigar smoke is divine.
 
ballstategamingking said:
The best part is almost all smokers are the ones that dropped out of high school and are uneducated. They believe its "their right" to smoke, but cant seem to realize it affects everyone around. I guess they dont hear about that during nascar races or monday night raw

what
 
pinkatrophe said:
In all honesty, that was the only part I disliked about her character. I thought the fact that she was a smoker was a real downer given the rest of her personality and she was sexiest in the scenes when she wasn't smoking IMO.

But I agree with White Man...some of the extremism against smoking is really surprising for me. I don't smoke and find the action to be as stupid as everyone else, but it's not like it disgusts me so long as I'm not forced to be around it.
I have to agree. As soon as she lit up I was disgusted. I viewed her character in a whole new light after her first cig.
 
Manics said:
Cigar smoke is WAAAAAY more pleasant than cigarette smoke as there's no foreign chemicals and additives and crap. Cigarette smoke bugs me too but cigar smoke is divine.

Yeah, I guess I should qualify that. There are cigars that smell nice, but there are also cigars that smell like ass. The last feeling I ever got on the connotation of cigars was that they're stinky and their smoke lingers more. I've always found cigar smoke more. . .oppressive than cigarette smoke.

YMMV, I suppose.
 
Cigars rawk. And for you bitches that complain about the smell, try Java from Drew Estate. Good shit.
 
rusty said:
Obnoxious , self-righteous, whining little fucks.

...the majority of non-smokers in this thread, that is.

If not wanting to a.) smell shitty, b.) cough, c.) get a dry throat, d.) get dry/sore/red eyes and e.) damage my lungs due to someone else's actions makes me an obnoxious , self-righteous, whining little fuck then so be it. :lol
 
pinkatrophe said:


They must not adverstise the health risks of smoking especially those of second hand smoke during nascar races or monday night raw, and when i think of smokers this is the class of people i think of and what they view as entertainment
 
First off, second hand smoke is waaaaaaaaaay overblown. If you are that obsessed or passionate about other people's actions resulting in legitimate health concerns for yourself, there are other things you should be protesting first.
 
Same as most things.

Do what you want, just don't be blatantly in my face about it. I find it nasty, and disgusting, but 20 years of being surrounded by it has dulled the edge of it.

The only ego-based comment I can make is this, if I ask you to not put an ash tray somewhere where I'll be (say the kitchen), or I kindly ask you not to smoke around me (which I don't do often, but, say a car with closed windows), just know that I feel I have a larger right to NOT be swamped by the smoke than you do to be disgusting and kill me as well.

Plus, the fact that people still get "in" to smoking is moronic. Our parents likely didn't know what they did, nowadays we do. If you DON'T know that they kill and cause cancer and are addictive and have a ton of bad shit, then you're hopeless. If you DO, and still choose to begin smoking, well... All I can say is I'm not sure who's worse.
 
smoking is pretty much at the top of my list because i have a couple family members that have died from or currently have emphysema


I really hate the way smokers smell too
 
ballstategamingking said:
They must not adverstise the health risks of smoking especially those of second hand smoke during nascar races or monday night raw, and when i think of smokers this is the class of people i think of and what they view as entertainment

That's odd, since so many Hollywood celebs smoke. I think everyone is aware of the dangers of smoking. It has more to do with them not giving a shit.

Sort of like people who abuse alcohol, diet pills, or any other drug. It's all dangerous, but people are going to do what they want to do.
 
ballstategamingking said:
Smokers and smoking in general really disgust me. I think if they want to kill themselves that bad just shoot yourself in the head or hang yourself or something.

People don't smoke to kill themselves moron.

It's a habit, and people smoke because it feels good when they crave the nicotine rush. If you inhale enough nicotine every day, day in and day out, your brain gets used to it and everything goes crazy during withdrawal. Add in the psychological cues, like smoking in your car of after a drink, and you've got the habit that's probably the hardest to break. I quit three weeks ago, and I'm still craving them every day.
 
ballstategamingking said:
Smokers and smoking in general really disgust me. I think if they want to kill themselves that bad just shoot yourself in the head or hang yourself or something.

It should be banned everywhere. If there wasnt secondhand smoke and it only affected the smokers i wouldnt care, but it effects everyone that is in the same room as the smoker, which is wrong.

The best part is almost all smokers are the ones that dropped out of high school and are uneducated. They believe its "their right" to smoke, but cant seem to realize it affects everyone around. I guess they dont hear about that during nascar races or monday night raw
How can you generalize that they are uneducated? I guess Peter Jennings was uneducated. This reply is terrible.

And for the record, there has still been no proven scientfic evidence that second hand smoke harms you.
 
Schattenjagger said:
How can you generalize that they are uneducated? I guess Peter Jennings was uneducated. This reply is terrible.

And for the record, there has still been no proven scientfic evidence that second hand smoke harms you.

Well, of course the poster is going to be dim. He apparently comes from a line of uneducated people, by his own admission.
 
I hope the people who are so appologetic towards smokers and think it's cool and sexy also feel that way about fat people.

We had a big discussion about smoking one night not long ago and the consensus was that smoking is dying out among educated middle and upper class people and is something that will one day only been found amond the poor and lower classes and of course kids trying to be cool and look older. I don't know anybody who smokes and the former smokers that I know are the ones who are the most vocal againts smoking because they have first hand knowledge on how stupid a habit it is.
 
rs7k said:
People don't smoke to kill themselves moron.

It's a habit, and people smoke because it feels good when they crave the nicotine rush. If you inhale enough nicotine every day, day in and day out, your brain gets used to it and everything goes crazy during withdrawal. Add in the psychological cues, like smoking in your car of after a drink, and you've got the habit that's probably the hardest to break. I quit three weeks ago, and I'm still craving them every day.


I know they are addicted, but if they have any brain at all they have to see that the only thing they are accomplishing is killing themselves. I know older people like grandparent age, didnt know any better about the risks, but the last twenty or so years have been full of research and reports. If they arent smart enough to not start smoking, i guess they deserve the horrible and slow death that cancer is going to give them
 
ballstategamingking said:
They must not adverstise the health risks of smoking especially those of second hand smoke during nascar races or monday night raw, and when i think of smokers this is the class of people i think of and what they view as entertainment

First of all: Do you go to Ball State in IN?

Second: I just took offense to the assertion that most smokers are people that dropped out of college or high school. I think, traditionally, we see non-smokers as blokes with pearly white teeths, $250k salaries, and care free and smokers as the total opposite when this isn't the case at all.

I don't buy the argument at all these days that people don't know that smoking is hurtful to your own body. I can buy that argument by people that are over 30 or so, but any younger than that is just placing the blame on laziness when it comes down to educating yourself on the health hazards.

And while I can see why the connotation of the word "smoker" causes an image of Nascar fans to flare up, I just hope that you know this isn't the case.
 
Hate cigarettes, hate smoking, but I hate the people who have anti-smoking crusades as well as the Truth commercials. Cigarettes are disgusting, smell awful, the smell sticks and it is personally disgusting to me, not to mention being hell on my allergies. But if you want to do it, I don't care. I have one friend who smokes (although he moved away), but I'd let him smoke in my car, although I didn't like it. Pot rocks though, doesn't smell gross, smell doesn't stick and I can smoke it and be around it with no problem.
 
siege said:
That's odd, since so many Hollywood celebs smoke. I think everyone is aware of the dangers of smoking. It has more to do with them not giving a shit.

Sort of like people who abuse alcohol, diet pills, or any other drug. It's all dangerous, but people are going to do what they want to do.

Smoking for Hollywood celebs is the ticket to staying thin. The Hollywood celebs can also afford to have their teeth whitened, get fillers injected around their mouths to puff up their smoker lines while the average joe smoker ends up looking and smelling like shit after a 10 year habbit.
 
all smokers should be kidnapped overnight and be shipped to a remote island where they all can share the polluted air together and make their own country :lol
 
Willco said:
Cigars rawk. And for you bitches that complain about the smell, try Java from Drew Estate. Good shit.


Even though people hate you Willco, your stock is rising in my books!
 
ballstategamingking said:
I know they are addicted, but if they have any brain at all they have to see that the only thing they are accomplishing is killing themselves. I know older people like grandparent age, didnt know any better about the risks, but the last twenty or so years have been full of research and reports. If they arent smart enough to not start smoking, i guess they deserve the horrible and slow death that cancer is going to give them

1) Old people don't get off the hook. It's been known that tobacco smoking is unhealthy since the stuff was first brought to europe. We just have the science behind why it's unhealthy now.

2) The whole point of addiction is that you do things that you know are wrong or unhealthy.

3) I don't believe many people start smoking with the intention of it becoming a lifelong habit. It's poor decision making. Should everyone be punished for their poor decisions?
 
pinkatrophe said:
First of all: Do you go to Ball State in IN?

Second: I just took offense to the assertion that most smokers are people that dropped out of college or high school. I think, traditionally, we see non-smokers as blokes with pearly white teeths, $250k salaries, and care free and smokers as the total opposite when this isn't the case at all.

I don't buy the argument at all these days that people don't know that smoking is hurtful to your own body. I can buy that argument by people that are over 30 or so, but any younger than that is just placing the blame on laziness when it comes down to educating yourself on the health hazards.

And while I can see why the connotation of the word "smoker" causes an image of Nascar fans to flare up, I just hope that you know this isn't the case.


Yes I go to Ball State in Indiana and to me anyone under 30 should have seen the effects of smoking through school or older family members who smoked and never knew the risks. I really just cant understand how someone with knowledge of the risks could start smoking? Maybe that is the question we need to ask to the smokers. Why did you start?
 
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