North Korea just shelled them some South Korea

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Dreams-Visions said:
my ass.
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My ass?

You really think the North just decided to attack a civilian outpost out of nowhere?

If it's not in response to recent South military activity, we're screwed. That's means the North is consciously starting a war and they're prepared for the consequences.
 
TacticalFox88 said:
I'm saying NK, like Israel, should've been dealt with a long time ago. Enough to where they don't think they can get away with anything
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Israel and North Korea aren't even remotely similar. Israel is a democracy for one.
 
Josh7289 said:
No, explain why. The leaders know exactly what they're doing. They're not stupid.
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Fanatical isolationism, rabid antagonism, lunatic paranoia, totalitarian control of citizenry. These are characteristics that make intelligence or stupidity an inappropriate frame for assessment of NK.
 
Zzoram said:
Well then the US better be ready to destroy them all simultaneously. Maybe the US should illegally and secretly place nukes in satellites over NK to do an orbital bombardment or something.
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Not sure why you think nuking starving peasants scattered over mountainous regions is a good idea. 80% of NK is mountains.
 
farnham said:
nk now attacks baerkryoungdo
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a second attack? fuck the North is really testing their limits

I want the next report to be "US carpet nuked all of NK, they didn't get another shot off"

wmat said:
Not sure why you think nuking starving peasants scattered over mountainous regions is a good idea. 80% of NK is mountains.
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The idea is to nuke all the artillery and military/government facilities so they can't destroy Seoul. That would require simultaneously hitting all the NK sites with a ton of firepower.
 
These attacks may happen all the time, but:
a) this is the first one in long time that had any casualties, right?
b) usually SK ignored them, only threatening to take actions should this continue. Yet this time, they actually replied with fire, didn't that happen in years?
Fuck me, I have classes in few minutes I don't want to go argh.
 
According to my Korean friend - South Korea held a military demonstration today (or practice, not sure what my friend meant) and North Korea saw it as taunting. They asked South Korea the purpose of the demonstration, and South Korea never responded. So, North Korea took the demonstration as a taunt and then fired on South Korea
 
JohnTinker said:
you've got to be kidding:

Yonhap: S. Korea to consider whether to push for U.N. condemnation of N. Korea http://bit.ly/expzKm
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NK wins.

Seriously, they should've been nuked into oblivion years ago. Bush should've did that instead of hitting Iraq, Iraq was much further away from being anything more serious but a minor nussaince.
 
LovingSteam said:
And how would you deal with Israel?
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Condeming every thing they do that goes against human rights? The fact they claim Anti-Semite when someone speaks out against them? Allowing soldiers to use children as shields?
 
Salazar said:
Fanatical isolationism, rabid antagonism, lunatic paranoia, totalitarian control of citizenry. These are characteristics that make intelligence or stupidity an inappropriate frame for assessment of NK.
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Again, the leaders are intelligent enough to control the people in that way. They know what they're doing.

In this case I think it's either 1) Kim Jong-un showing his prowess and legitimacy to rule to the NK military, or 2) a show of power to the world to not mess with its nuclear programs, which it showed more of a couple days ago.
 
K2Valor said:
According to my Korean friend - South Korea held a military demonstration today (or practice, not sure what my friend meant) and North Korea saw it as taunting. They asked South Korea the purpose of the demonstration, and South Korea never responded. So, North Korea took the demonstration as a taunt and then fired on South Korea
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If true, how is no one reporting this?
 
K2Valor said:
According to my Korean friend - South Korea held a military demonstration today (or practice, not sure what my friend meant) and North Korea saw it as taunting. They asked South Korea the purpose of the demonstration, and South Korea never responded. So, North Korea took the demonstration as a taunt and then fired on South Korea
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NK does demonstrations constantly, SK doesn't shoot at them every time. Maybe they should.
 
BocoDragon said:
Ok that partially answers my question... If Yeonpyeong Island was home to a recent military drill, then it's possible that the South did something to threaten the North's sovereignty during that drill, and they retaliated.

Frankly, that's a much better situation then the North just launching shells at civilians unprovoked. :/
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It gives NK plausible deniabilty. SK didn't threaten them, but they will claim in propaganda that they were responding to military drills and probably claim SK was planning some sort of agression against the dear leader's country. Don't forget that Incheon was the site of a huge allied invasion of NK during the war.
 
Zzoram said:
Seriously, they should've been nuked into oblivion years ago. Bush should've did that instead of hitting Iraq, Iraq was much further away from being anything more serious but a minor nussaince.
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Yeah, uh huh.

Oil.
 
TacticalFox88 said:
Condeming every thing they do that goes against human rights? The fact they claim Anti-Semite when someone speaks out against them? Allowing soldiers to use children as shields?
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Still haven't said how you'd deal with them. Speaking out isn't dealing with them. Its simply speaking out. Israel is condemned in most of the world for actions it takes against the Palestinians, just like NK is. So what do you mean DEAL with Israel? Do you mean militarily? Do you mean sanctions? What do you mean?
 
xbhaskarx said:
To those who are talking about an all out war:

Are you people not aware that North Korea has nuclear weapons?

Yes, the military doctrine of "mutually assured destruction" would suggest that neither side would resort to the use of nukes, but given how much more powerful the US military is than their military, a conventional war that threatened the regime could lead to a "use them or lose them" situation...

Basically what that means is the US can't just invade North Korea and overthrow the NK regime, because they would use their nukes to take out South Korea and Japan.

The most we'll get is border skirmishes, some small-scale aerial combat (no bombing of cities or major infrastructure), shelling across the border, etc.
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The US and allied forces could prevent such a thing from happening if they simply repel any NK invading forces. There's a calculated risk in Kim possibly launching a nuke if there is an attempt at toppling his regime, but that risk shouldn't be hard to figure out. Nothing would happen if all that is done is to maintain the status quo. Kim is not going to launch nukes for his ambition of reunification of Korea under his rule, and he's not going for anything else until that is accomplished.
 
GillianSeed79 said:
It gives NK plausible deniabilty. SK didn't threaten them, but they will claim in propaganda that they were responding to military drills and probably claim SK was planning some sort of agression against the dear leader's country. Don't forget that Incheon was the site of a huge allied invasion of NK during the war.
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Interesting.. I see your point.
 
Zzoram said:
The idea is to nuke all the artillery and military/government facilities so they can't destroy Seoul. That would require simultaneously hitting all the NK sites with a ton of firepower.
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Nowadays, nukes cover about 30km radial — that is, the initial explosion does. Sort of overkill for that purpose.

Nukes serve one purpose alone: Posing a threat. Actually using them is insane in any scenario.
 
LovingSteam said:
Still haven't said how you'd deal with them. Speaking out isn't dealing with them. Its simply speaking out. Israel is condemned in most of the world for actions it takes against the Palestinians, just like NK is. So what do you mean DEAL with Israel? Do you mean militarily? Do you mean sanctions? What do you mean?
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Spread pamphlets in Tel Aviv about the evils of circumcision.
 
LovingSteam said:
Still haven't said how you'd deal with them. Speaking out isn't dealing with them. Its simply speaking out. Israel is condemned in most of the world for actions it takes against the Palestinians, just like NK is. So what do you mean DEAL with Israel? Do you mean militarily? Do you mean sanctions? What do you mean?
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Sanctions. The military isn't necessary. That does far worse than anything a bomb could do.
 
farnham said:
nk now attacks baerkryoungdo
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Where did you get that info from? Not saying it isn't true, but I'm surprised they've not said anything on the news yet (watching the Al Jazeera live now). Also the girl speaking on Al Jazeera now keeps pressing her phone's keys all the time :P
 
CassSept said:
These attacks may happen all the time, but:
a) this is the first one in long time that had any casualties, right?
b) usually SK ignored them, only threatening to take actions should this continue. Yet this time, they actually replied with fire, didn't that happen in years?
Fuck me, I have classes in few minutes I don't want to go argh.
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a. In March, 46 SK soldiers died.
b. No, they've actually fought since 1999 around this area. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_battle_of_Yeonpyeong
 
TacticalFox88 said:
The NK Air Force have MiG-29's and in capable hands are able to match F-15 planes. They could be there within minutes, carpet bomb, then be back for dinner.
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With US help, S. Korea would easily control the airspace. Planes wouldn't be an issue. But, mortars are a huge problem since there is no way to shoot them down. Seoul and millions of people would be dead in minutes from the shelling. That's why all tough talk from S. Korea, US and so on means nothing to the North since we are not going to risk millions of people's lives.
 
YTN: Fires burning out of control on island shelled by N. Korea.


REGARDING "SECOND ATTACK"
RT @W7VOA: An island fishing boat capt. says there was initial barrage of 15 shells. Then 40-min. respite before shelling resumed.
 
Interesting situation.
I wonder what provoked it.

Fighting fire with fire is not an option. There's no need to type things like "letz nuke 'em! USA USA!". It won't happen. It can't happen.
 
peterb0y said:
If true, how is no one reporting this?
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I'm pretty sure all the news sources have been reporting that the attack may have been a response to the recent high profile joint U.S./South Korea military exercises.
 
The problem with North Korea is that no one knows the full scale of what the country is capable of right now with it's nuclear capabilities. Hell, you can't even find a map of the place that is accurate. The most accurate I could find was this thing that google barely managed to get.

http://www.nkeconwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/GE.JPG

ugh...throw in the interests of other countries and this is just a big damned mess waiting to explode.
 
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