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Accidents happen, friend.

 

[iMax]

Smackdown Spoilers:

Spoiler

So apparently the stipulation is for Team Cena to be fired—but not John Cena

 

[Aiii]

Smackdown Spoilers:

Spoiler

So apparently the stipulation is for Team Cena to be fired—but not John Cena

Costcutting bastards.

 

[Fox318]

His debut also had him fucking up Vince's match with Austin. Dude threw Austin out of the cell, giving him the win.

He debuted as a bumbling idiot!

This is why you need to have separate titles

• CEO
• Chief Creative
  • Head Writer for Raw
  • Head Writer for Smackdown

 

[BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!]

Smackdown Spoilers:

Spoiler

So apparently the stipulation is for Team Cena to be fired—but not John Cena

All is right in the world

 

[DMczaf]

A reporter did an interview with Sting at the launch as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gOJkXsBFE8#t=16

Poor Sting

 

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[bjork]

Is this porn? I mean, I generally try and catch every celeb/known entity porn once it's out, but I'd watch a Juvi porno for Juvi.

 

[Fox318]

A reporter did an interview with Sting at the launch as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gOJkXsBFE8#t=16

Poor Sting

"He helped try and take down my company
He didn't want to wrestle for my company

I'll show him. I'll pay him money to not wrestle at 55 and market him at my PPV events

That will show him"

 

[avengers23]

How can the Juice botch his spots in an adult entertainment film?

 

[strobogo]

How can the Juice botch his spots in an adult entertainment film?

Slips coming down the ramp, falls into a woman.

 

[Sephzilla]

Smackdown Spoilers:

Spoiler

So apparently the stipulation is for Team Cena to be fired—but not John Cena

Spoiler

Heel Cena incoming?

Spoiler

Hahaha no

 

[Fox318]

Spoiler

Heel Cena incoming?

Spoiler

Hahaha no

Spoiler

"Looks like we need more Cena"

"I see it now. Cena vs a team of Hogan, Sting, Rock, Austin, Lesnar, Angle, AJ Lee, and one of the flippy shit guys in the Florida Championship Wrestling HHH runs. Maybe we can finally book Micheal Sam as the ref!!!"

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Holy shit Flair vs Steamboat at Clash 6 is such a great grueling match. Just an hour of these two guys putting it all on the line.

Bonus Flair Flop:

 

[RP912]

Holy shit Flair vs Steamboat at Clash 6 is such a great grueling match. Just an hour of these two guys putting it all on the line.

Bonus Flair Flop:

Loved that match along with flair/sting 1.

Flair made wrestling hour long matches cool in the 80s.

 

[strobogo]

My fave Flair Flop:


The double clutch

 

[Kaladin]

Why don't we have 45 - 60 min matches anymore?

 

[Fox318]

Why don't we have 45 - 60 min matches anymore?

The people Vince markets to have the attention span of a small dog.

 

[Toki767]

Why don't we have 45 - 60 min matches anymore?

Probably because they don't trust anyone to go 60 minutes. And the crowd would turn on it or chant boring and all that.

 

[slightconfuse]

Serena and ivalesse has a 60 minute draw at Shine 20 it was pretty rad

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Why don't we have 45 - 60 min matches anymore?

Fanbase has low attention spans + maybe 5 guys total on the roster who can go an hour without being boring

 

[Kaladin]

It doesn't have to be on a regular basis, just do it out of the blue every now and then, to make a match feel special.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Every match goes like 5-20 minutes now, and putting any two competent people together for over 10 minutes gets easy "this is awesome" chants every time. Y'all with this "attention span" shit aren't paying attention to the current product.

 

[Sephzilla]

Why don't we have 45 - 60 min matches anymore?

Because Bret Hart can't wrestle anymore.

 

[strobogo]

Even the Young Bucks would call bullshit on that. "Let's have a game of chicken in the middle of this match!" "Uh, okay."

 

[Toki767]

Realistically, who could probably go 60 minutes on the roster and make it be interesting at least 90% of the way?

Bryan and Rollins are basically the only ones I could see doing it.

 

[RP912]

Why don't we have 45 - 60 min matches anymore?

because today's audience...well vinces audience can't even embrace a 5 second arm tie up yet alone a 30 minute match without bullshit involved.

Then again shield/wyatts 1 was an good example of a lengthy match that needs to paved way for more lengthy matches.

 

[Sephzilla]

I could watch Brock german suplex Cena for 60 minutes

 

[RP912]

Every match goes like 5-20 minutes now, and putting any two competent people together for over 10 minutes gets easy "this is awesome" chants every time. Y'all with this "attention span" shit aren't paying attention to the current product.

It all depends on the wrestlers though. Would you hear "this is awesome" to a 30 minute Big Show vs Orton match?

 

[Fox318]

I could watch Brock german suplex Cena for 60 minutes

Teach him Benoit style powerbombs

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Realistically, who could probably go 60 minutes on the roster and make it be interesting at least 90% of the way?

Bryan and Rollins are basically the only ones I could see doing it.

Cesaro
Ziggler (maybe)
Cena honestly

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

It all depends on the wrestlers though. Would you hear "this is awesome" to a 30 minute Big Show vs Orton match?

Man, even Sheamus gets the chants. All it takes is to put some basic sequences together with a good feel for the timing.

 

[slightconfuse]

Most WWF iron man matches are bad anyway.

Rude / steamboat still goat

 

[Sephzilla]

Cesaro
Ziggler (maybe)
Cena honestly

he said who could go 60 and keep it interesting.

 

[Kaladin]

Realistically, who could probably go 60 minutes on the roster and make it be interesting at least 90% of the way?

Bryan and Rollins are basically the only ones I could see doing it.

Bryan, Rollins, Cesaro, Cena in a blue moon, I would say Orton but now I don't know, maybe Ambrose, Ziggler has the stamina to do it but I don't think he's ever been given the chance.

 

[Sephzilla]

Bryan
Rollins
Ambrose
Cesaro
Ziggler
HHH

 

[Kaladin]

he said who could go 60 and keep it interesting.

Cena's best matches are with guys like Bryan who can really wrestle.

 

[strobogo]

God, an hour of Ziggler sounds miserable.

 

[Sephzilla]

Cena's best matches are with guys like Bryan who can really wrestle.

Which doesn't say much about Cena

 

[BronsonLee]

he said who could go 60 and keep it interesting.

Michaels/Cena in the UK, bruh

 

[Sephzilla]

When was the last time Cena had a great match with someone who wasn't a vastly better wrestler than him? Cena gets fucking carried through all of his great matches.

 

[Kaladin]

Which doesn't say much about Cena

He's as good as his opponent is, really. I mean put him against a guy like Mark Henry or Big Show and he's going to have a plodding, slow and boring match. Put him against a guy like Daniel Bryan or CM Punk and you'll get a great athletic contest. Cena's matches always rely heavily on his opponents because he has to get his ass handed to him to make that "against all odds" comeback.

 

[strobogo]

When was the last time Cena had a great match with someone who wasn't a vastly better wrestler than him? Cena gets fucking carried through all of his great matches.

A guy who isn't good can't be carried through a great match.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

When was the last time Cena had a great match with someone who wasn't a vastly better wrestler than him? Cena gets fucking carried through all of his great matches.

How often does Cena have a bad match?

 

[Plywood]

Cena wrestles at the level of his competitors. Think about it.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Cena wrestles at the level of his competitors. Think about it.

This describes everyone.

 

[Fox318]

Which doesn't say much about Cena

Cena is a body builder.


Cena is Lex Luger with more support from management.

 

[Hasney]

Eh, Cena's just like Hogan knowing when to put on a good match and when to not bother. It's career prolonging and smart from his point of view.

Sure, I'm not watching the product because of it, but if he's going to be on top anyway, may as well.

 

[Toki767]

Michaels/Cena in the UK, bruh

Michaels carried that match.

Plus that was like almost 10 years ago.

 

[Sephzilla]

A guy who isn't good can't be carried through a great match.

Bret Hart / Diesel says hi.