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Crushing hope and dreams is what WWE does.
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
At least we will always have NXT.
Nuked, like all traces gone? Can't even go back and see why they were nuked?
He still went home to Maryse.
Miz holding up championships while superman is doing promos via titantron like a GI Joe villain.
BEELIEEEV DAT
dude's name is now "Guest"
British Monsoon
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An open letter from Lionheart to AJ Styles calling for him to stop using the Styles Clash;
https://www.facebook.com/PWPonderings/posts/897444173612531
"put all pride, ego, blame aside, and acknowledge that irrelevant of fault, circumstance or anything else, the move is a direct risk and a danger to the safety and well being of your fellow wrestler"
Kinda difficult to argue with. The fault may directly lie with the wrestlers who have been injured taking the move, but the fact that it keeps happening begs the question; is it really worth it? It's not like Styles doesn't have a half dozen other finishing moves in his war crate; springboard 450, spiral tap, Bloody Sunday, hollow point, calf killer, etc. Any one of them would be a suitable replacement.
https://www.facebook.com/PWPonderings/posts/897444173612531
"put all pride, ego, blame aside, and acknowledge that irrelevant of fault, circumstance or anything else, the move is a direct risk and a danger to the safety and well being of your fellow wrestler"
Kinda difficult to argue with. The fault may directly lie with the wrestlers who have been injured taking the move, but the fact that it keeps happening begs the question; is it really worth it? It's not like Styles doesn't have a half dozen other finishing moves in his war crate; springboard 450, spiral tap, Bloody Sunday, hollow point, calf killer, etc. Any one of them would be a suitable replacement.
Who was it?
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Deleted member 47027
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Sure, he COULD, but stupid Bronson would get his way AND WE CAN'T HAVE THAT.
Sunflower and SoulPlaya are lucky the GWF/UFC crossover special isn't archived anywhere. They'd be in the ether now too for 'unfavourable' results.
Retro_
Are you saying he should stop doing the Styles Clash because it's too dangerous and should use a fucking ganso bomb instead?
That dude's been around for a long time, right? I'll be damned.
edit - there is a Layla card in this game now. I wish you could just buy specific cards, ehehehe
plagiarize
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I don't blame AJ for what has happened. But if he continues to do it and injures yet another person, I'm going to start blaming him. I think the decent thing to do would be to stop using it. Two broken necks and all.
Sibersk Esto
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damn I think that guy has been around forever
FlammableD
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Graves was around '05/'06, Kazarian before that, and I think Roddy was a while ago as well.
British Monsoon
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It's just a matter of instinct and muscle memory on the part of the wrestler taking the move - they're taught to tuck their head on almost every bump and, while they're almost certainly aware that they need to keep their neck straight to take the styles clash, sometimes that can all go out of the window in the heat of the moment.
There have been a number of incidents in the past. Kaz in 2003, Corey Graves in 2006 and I'm pretty sure Jack Evans took a fucked on one around that time as well, but Jack's made of rubber anyways.
It's not quite a ganso bomb and, so far, AJ seems to have lifted people high enough before the move so that actually spiking their head isn't very likely.
Yeah, Roddy took a messed up one in 2005, iirc. As well as the one on ROH TV earlier this year.
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Yep, it's gone. Soulplaya KOed the fuck out of Evilore. That was a fun crossover. Blackace also got beat down.
He hasn't used it that often. You're saying he lifts people high enough, but I'm also saying he does everything right for the styles clash too yet he's being told to change it. As soon as he starts doing that move, he'd be told to change that too because somebody else took it wrong.
And I made Bish tap out(even though I was unfairly taken off tv by management so they could keep pushing Heavy and part-time posters) so what I'm hearing is we could all beat up the mods.
British Monsoon
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Yes, but with the Styles Clash his opponents safety is entirely out of his hands once he leaves the ground - even if he does everything right, they could still take it wrong. The hollow point is much more about AJ's timing with the drop and the height he's got the opponent held at - it's obviously a dangerous-ass move, so yeah, perhaps not best for his new standard finisher, but the opponent's safety seems much more in AJ's hands than it does with the Styles Clash.
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It was a CPU simulation.
BronsonLee
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I always win in the end!
RE: Hollow Point, it's safer because they know it's a head drop. The problem with the Clash is that it's a face bump that can go real wrong, since AJ controls every aspect of it except the head/neck.
It could be a talent thing too; AJ being back on Tue indies after nearly a decade away does that to a move, especially since he's the only one that does it, and he very rarely will go over it with who is taking it (I saw this from experience)
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Deleted member 47027
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I just remembered that Bish ended up white in UFC somehow. What a mistake.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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Damn. Wasn't he that huge Bayonetta mark? He can be obnoxious at times, but he generally knew what he was talking about. I'll miss him.
Mr. Luchador
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Yeah that's what I find odd. He did it for 10+ years in TNA without any incident, but now he's working with new people it seems to be happening every 4 months or so :\
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I had no idea about the ones happening outside of TNA, sorry!
Will the person be the 30th entrant in the Royal Rumble?
lovely ladies
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It's on sale for XB1 too for $13.20 if you have gold, I bought it last night.
FallingEdge
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Indeed. The move just looks bland as hell compared to his other moves. I rather see him just do a 360 splash which seems like his most perfected move that's actually believable tbh.
sina taking shots at styles confirmed....
FallingEdge
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from Botchamania fan page
Styles Clash Kill Sheet...
Frankie Kazarian (NWA:TNA, July 2 2003)
Steve Stone (IWA-MS, 2004)
Sterling James Keenan (1PW, March 4th 2006)
Roderick Strong (ROH, February 1st 2014)
Lionheart (PCW, March 1st 2014)
Yoshi Tatsu (NJPW, November 8th 2014)
Styles Clash Kill Sheet...
Frankie Kazarian (NWA:TNA, July 2 2003)
Steve Stone (IWA-MS, 2004)
Sterling James Keenan (1PW, March 4th 2006)
Roderick Strong (ROH, February 1st 2014)
Lionheart (PCW, March 1st 2014)
Yoshi Tatsu (NJPW, November 8th 2014)
FlammableD
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Mr. Luchador
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On another wrestling forum I used to go to that was voted 'Finisher of the Year' for 3 years in a row haha
British Monsoon
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Kota Ibushi is the future. And also insane;
I too am a fan of Vader and the Steiner Bros.
This is GOAT tier Styles Clash setup:
This one looks good but I feel like it's not always this smooth. I don#t really care either way if he changes his finisher or not. Just wouldn't be super bummed out of anything if he decides to quit the Styles Clash.
FallingEdge
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what does this even mean
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