PPV numbers are in decline, it has nothing to do with Punk.
He also said he sold more merch than Cena until he turned heel to face the Rock.
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November Wrasslin |OT| Ask Not The Jobber How John Cena Wins
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PPV numbers are in decline, it has nothing to do with Punk.
He also said he sold more merch than Cena until he turned heel to face the Rock.
The 2012 had a fresh Brock whose drawing power was still strong. Plus 2011 was like a month after Punk got into the main event, it takes a long long time to actually build a guy as a draw and WWE completely screwed that build up.
Just shows that people are morons. Christian walked in as WHC as well, so it quite clearly should have been the biggest PPV of all time.
Are we back on this "he is not a draw" discussion? It might even be more dumb than the "is Bryan over" thing.
He sold more merch than fucking Cena. The fact that a PPV with Brock Lesnar drew better numbers than him doesn't mean he isn't a draw.
HHH and Lesnar had years of build and good booking that punk never had. It's not even comparable.
But whatever some people will hate on Punk no matter what.
He sold more merch than fucking Cena. The fact that a PPV with Brock Lesnar drew better numbers than him doesn't mean he isn't a draw.
HHH and Lesnar had years of build and good booking that punk never had. It's not even comparable.
But whatever some people will hate on Punk no matter what.
The Silver
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BROK WINS
According to some people if you aren't bringing record numbers as soon as you get over then you are a failure and a mid carder.
Sibersk Esto
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I wonder if the convoluted bullshit that happened after mitb had anything to do with the SS 2011 buys
That and the fact that the casual viewer would be turned off by punk, considering the WWE's commentary team and management really hammered the point that Punk was a cowardly whiny quitter.
That and the fact that the casual viewer would be turned off by punk, considering the WWE's commentary team and management really hammered the point that Punk was a cowardly whiny quitter.
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Queen of Hunting
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hope the cm punk chants get louder after all this now
UberTag
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Yeah, because that's what outraged fans should do.
Pay money for terrible, overlong TV tapings (just like strobogo did this week) just to shit on the product on live television.
That'll show the WWE.
Frankly, I hope they DON'T do that.
Sibersk Esto
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They achieve nothing but to drop the stock of whoever is in the ring not named Cena and in Aj Lee's case, to further justify the outdated and sexist attitude that Vince already has
HarryDemeanor
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I hope not. Nothing more annoying for a
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Seriously Rhonda Rousey is outdrawing them and one of the most,recognizable celebs . WWE,would,be dumb to bot do,something with here at mania.
Shell probably,debut in PWG INSTESD lol
Dr Duncan Steel
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Punk believes he's what the casual cares about? That I have to disagree with because if the casual fan cares about anything, it's the Rock/Brock whenever he was feuding with. Which sucks because they SHOULD be building around the guy who'll be there the next night.
Yes. Any thread about Punk in OT leads me to believe that smarks are the absolute easiest marks to work into a shoot work.
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Think,is was in reference to all,the attention to pipebomb got. It was on the front page of espn.
Really bought a lot of eyes ok
for a week
No, he said WWE cares about the casual fan, and their booking of him was killing his stock with said casual fans. Thus damaging his stock with WWE.
Much like Daniel Bryan, CM Punk is "over" with a demographic that cannot afford to purchase pay-per-views. The safety net will always be John Sina, who brings in a wholesome, family-based clientele.
Future Foundation
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The chants have been completely meaningless - always popping up at the stupidest times, and doing nothing except making the fans chanting it look dumb.
Dr Duncan Steel
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I guess that explains the Network then.
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So,John cena is why the network is failing?
lovely ladies
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In other news
Cena, through no fault of his own, is very much why WWE had been on a downward trend for years, yes.
All in all, their booking and focus on one guy is their biggest mistake over the past decade. As Punk said, how many guys on the roster right now have main evented Mania? Cena, Bryan and Orton?
Au contraire, friends, at this point John Sina and his paying fans are the only thing keeping WWE alive.
Bryan and Punk fans are the type to binge watch the entire library during the free month of November, complain about the lack of Harley Race matches, never to subscribe again.
Sibersk Esto
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balor has really dark nipples in that nxt pic
lovely ladies
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There was Miz but I wouldn't want to count him either.
Sibersk Esto
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"I'm dumb as fuck"- Ryback
"I'm dumb as fuck"- Ryback
Punk kneeeeeeeeeew it.
Professor Beef
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I remember me and dream fooling everyone on WrestleGAF when Cena made his promo to Vince threatening to go to TNA. Goooooood times.
He counts, even though he was only there to put over Cena vs. Rock. Which kind of enforces the point.
Q
Queen of Hunting
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running the ropes for a concussion test sums up the whole thing really.
Well if he falls unconscious then you know he has a concussion.
Sounds good to me.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Don't forget ROH got a toy deal before NJPW.
"I'm dumb as fuck"- Ryback
hahahahahaha
Well he's stumbled then fallen on the mat, bleeding from the ears and nose. I think he needs a z pak.
Q
Queen of Hunting
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also maybe cm punk can be the raw gm so he has time to heal lol
Years of body paint abuse.
bean breath
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Don't forget Ryback is a social media mastermind.
So friend Heel, are you still subscribed?
Just so the production team to edit the hell out of the audience :/
Q
Queen of Hunting
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"I'm dumb as fuck"- Ryback
dead at that mini ryback figure...
My only subscription is to PlayStation Plus, friend. You know that. These carny fucks got everyone on the hook for $30 and a year later they won't drop a deal.
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What Punk thinks he deserved is really not all that interesting. Because regardless of whether he earned a WM main event, the real story are the two clowns running the company
What is interesting is just how shitty of a job Hunter seems to be doing and how out of touch Vince is.
For 20-30 years people said George Lucas was a genius and everyone loved him. Then people found out that without the right people under him, he turned to outright dogshit. The same can be said of Vince.
What is interesting is just how shitty of a job Hunter seems to be doing and how out of touch Vince is.
For 20-30 years people said George Lucas was a genius and everyone loved him. Then people found out that without the right people under him, he turned to outright dogshit. The same can be said of Vince.
Even during vince's heyday...he received flack as well by not only some of the fans but promoters. Hence Black Saturday.
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Vince is just too old school for his own good and hunter just seems like he is trying too hard to sip the koolaid and fit into his new role.
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