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[Aiii]

Oh yah brings up Paige and Audrey Marie. The divas have way better matches on NXT. The crowd actually cares

All we can hope is AJ and Eve's feud will get the crowd invested in the divas again. For that to happen we need longer matches and a good storyline for that feud though. If they don't give the crowd something to cheer for they'll never start taking the women in WWE seriously.

The good thing is Eve and AJ are the only divas people actually give a crap about, so if any two women could do it, it's them, so fingers crossed that they'll give the divas division the same treatment as they did the tag-team division.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

i hate randy borton cause the ladies swoon over him like i wish they would for me

 

[Nocturnowl]

i hate randy borton cause the ladies swoon over him like i wish they would for me

I'm envious of his harem of fake wives, even if one of them was clearly more attracted to the Punkster.

 

[McNei1y]

i hate randy borton cause the ladies swoon over him like i wish they would for me

 

[Aiii]

I loved Legend Killer Randy Orton.

If the stupid women would just stop swooning over him he could be a heel again, you can tell the guy is just utterly bored with his own useless gimmick of posing. I reckon the only thing he enjoys is coming up with new ways to RKO OUT OF NOWHERE!!!!11

 

[KissVibes]

What a skinny twig. Not like Trips. Now there's a real man.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

I'd definitely say the spinner belt was probably the catalyst.

I'm kinda surprised the belt hasn't seen a redesign during the reign of Punk.

 

[Aiii]

I'm kinda surprised the belt hasn't seen a redesign during the reign of Punk.

I'm not. The belt's been ready for half a year, but clearly Vince won't let Punk introduce it because it was one of the things he said would be part of his "change." If there's one thing Vince knows it's how to screw with his talent and viewers.

I reckon the second Rock takes the belt from Punk at the RR he'll be at the next Raw introducing a new design.

 

[Plywood]

i hate randy borton cause the ladies swoon over him like i wish they would for me

Get bald, lean, shit in someone's bag = instant poon

 

[strobogo]

Hey Wrassle GAF do you think the reason John Cena starting getting so much hate in the hardcore wrestling community because he changed the WWE title to that damn spinner belt?

I'm pretty sure we can track it all back to him changing the belt. Then he turned into super Cena and things got to where they are now.

Eh, I think the title being a reason to hate him came later. He was a MONSTER of overness when he won the title. Everyone loved him. Women, children, men, internet fans. It wasn't until 2007ish that he really became Super Cena that we see today. 2006 was when crowds started turning against him, but I think it started with super smarky areas like Chicago and NYC, and then spread out from there because it was cool to do. Even today I'm not sure if Cena is booed by live crowds because they actually dislike him, or because it is the fun thing to do.

 

[FallingEdge]

Eh, I think the title being a reason to hate him came later. He was a MONSTER of overness when he won the title. Everyone loved him. Women, children, men, internet fans. It wasn't until 2007ish that he really became Super Cena that we see today. 2006 was when crowds started turning against him, but I think it started with super smarky areas like Chicago and NYC, and then spread out from there because it was cool to do. Even today I'm not sure if Cena is booed by live crowds because they actually dislike him, or because it is the fun thing to do.

It happened prior to that. The crowd from ECW ONS 2005 chanted CENA SUCKS multiple times and he wasn't even on the card!

 

[Aiii]

Eh, I think the title being a reason to hate him came later. He was a MONSTER of overness when he won the title. Everyone loved him. Women, children, men, internet fans. It wasn't until 2007ish that he really became Super Cena that we see today. 2006 was when crowds started turning against him, but I think it started with super smarky areas like Chicago and NYC, and then spread out from there because it was cool to do. Even today I'm not sure if Cena is booed by live crowds because they actually dislike him, or because it is the fun thing to do.

PG Era killed any chance Cena had with male fans over the age of 10.

 

[SoulPlaya]

The reason Cena started getting heat was because he stopped rapping. He went from a badass to a guy who constantly smiled and laughed, while cracking lame ass jokes. Yeah, you may think the rapping was lame, but at least he tried to be a badass then.

 

[Kaladin]

The reason Cena started getting heat was because he stopped rapping. He went from a badass to a guy who constantly smiled and laughed, while cracking lame ass jokes. Yeah, you may think the rapping was lame, but at least he tried to be a badass then.

This, for me at least. I hate that he never seems to get mad at anything. I think he finally showed anger at CM Punk recently, but I even forget when that was because it was one promo in years of smirking at and respecting his opponents while cracking jokes on them.

 

[Dark Ninja]

Hey Wrassle GAF do you think the reason John Cena starting getting so much hate in the hardcore wrestling community because he changed the WWE title to that damn spinner belt?

I'm pretty sure we can track it all back to him changing the belt. Then he turned into super Cena and things got to where they are now.

It was waaaaaaaay before that when he had the us title I didn't like him. He was getting pushed above people with much more talent which I did not like and his overal demeanor is not likeable. This guy was getting pushed hard the second he came in with his Kurt angle feud. The shoving down people's throats is what sealed the deal though

 

[A Pretty Panda]

 

[Perspicacity]

It happened prior to that. The crowd from ECW ONS 2005 chanted CENA SUCKS multiple times and he wasn't even on the card!

This. This. This.

Then when he storyline got Jericho fired a couple of months later he cemented himself as wrestling's greatest monster.

 

[Professor Beef]

The reason Cena started getting heat was because he stopped rapping. He went from a badass to a guy who constantly smiled and laughed, while cracking lame ass jokes. Yeah, you may think the rapping was lame, but at least he tried to be a badass then.

I actually agree with this.

 

[Data West]

I know very few women who think Orton post-Evolution is hot. He's too leathery now.

 

[BillRiccio]

Update on Cody Rhodes condition via The Observer.

WWE officials have confirmed Cody Rhodes suffered a concussion and an injury to his right shoulder on Tuesday night in Cleveland, landing badly on a back drop when in with Kane in a tag team title match with Kane & Daniel Bryan vs. Rhodes & Damien Sandow.

Rhodes is scheduled for further evaluation tomorrow to determine if he could possibly return on Sunday for Survivor Series. WWE has strict rules regarding athletes who hae suffered concussions and he wouldn't be able to work the match unless he passed a concussion evaluation test.

There are reports of Tensai being the potentlal replacement but the company did not confirm that.

Its a good thing they kept Tensai so strong, fans should have no trouble buying him in this match.

 

[krae_man]

Translation: If his shoulder wasn't hurt too, we'd claim he didn't suffer a concussion and force him to wrestle anyway.

 

[Jamie OD]

People want Ambrose like they wanted Brodus Clay

and then they'll get Ambrose alright

They'll get Ambrose GOOD

"You mind if I... cut in?"

 

[Perspicacity]

Update on Cody Rhodes condition via The Observer.

Brad Maddox could fill the Cody-hole.

 

[bangai-o]

Get bald, lean, shit in someone's bag = instant poon

who treats the ladies better with positive results?

Orton
Punk
Cody
or
Kofi?

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Brad Maddox could fill the Cody-hole.

 

[bangai-o]

lol "the cody-hole"

 

[FallingEdge]

Why is Heyman in the crowd?

 

[Kaladin]

Is Ted Dibiase, Jr. still employed?

 

[Aiii]

Why is Heyman in the crowd?

Hey now, none of that. Joseph Park is too awesome to be a punchline.

Is Ted Dibiase, Jr. still employed?

He is, saw him wrestle at the Smackdown show in Brussels last week

 

[FallingEdge]

Hey now, none of that. Joseph Park is too awesome to be a punchline.

 

[Anth0ny]

The reason Cena started getting heat was because he stopped rapping. He went from a badass to a guy who constantly smiled and laughed, while cracking lame ass jokes. Yeah, you may think the rapping was lame, but at least he tried to be a badass then.

Pretty much.

 

[G-Fex]

I was going to trade in WWE '13 but I think I'll play through Universe mode and make Kevin Nash the star he deserves to be.

 

[Cagey]

Eh, I think the title being a reason to hate him came later. He was a MONSTER of overness when he won the title. Everyone loved him. Women, children, men, internet fans. It wasn't until 2007ish that he really became Super Cena that we see today. 2006 was when crowds started turning against him, but I think it started with super smarky areas like Chicago and NYC, and then spread out from there because it was cool to do. Even today I'm not sure if Cena is booed by live crowds because they actually dislike him, or because it is the fun thing to do.

Wow, this really happened?

I stopped watching, in part, because I thought he was terrible... and that was when they relegated his heel rapper shit to Smackdown.

 

[MightyHealthy]

The reason Cena started getting heat was because he stopped rapping. He went from a badass to a guy who constantly smiled and laughed, while cracking lame ass jokes. Yeah, you may think the rapping was lame, but at least he tried to be a badass then.

Hey he still does "Black Preacher" from time to time

 

[Deleted member 47027]

I was going to trade in WWE '13 but I think I'll play through Universe mode and make Kevin Nash the star he deserves to be.

 

[Htown]

The reason Cena started getting heat was because he stopped rapping. He went from a badass to a guy who constantly smiled and laughed, while cracking lame ass jokes. Yeah, you may think the rapping was lame, but at least he tried to be a badass then.

And let's be clear.

The rapping was terrible.

 

[Professor Beef]

And let's be clear.

The rapping was terrible.

Those are my fondest memories of Cena.

 

[Data West]

I didn't know Owen was the reason Jason Sensation got hired

 

[G-Fex]

That's not funny

You don't get my sympy at all Sunny

 

[A Pretty Panda]

 

[Keyser Soze]

That's not funny

You don't get my sympy at all Sunny

It's a Goonies II joke dammit insufferable child. Respect history!!!

 

[Net_Wrecker]

This, for me at least. I hate that he never seems to get mad at anything. I think he finally showed anger at CM Punk recently, but I even forget when that was because it was one promo in years of smirking at and respecting his opponents while cracking jokes on them.

Cena's "anger" in the last 2 years has been terrible. He overdoes it every single time, and either starts yelling like a preacher, or doing his stern talking marine crap. Both are so corny and make me want to change the channel. Yeah his heel rapper stuff might be kind of "meh" in retrospect, but at least he seemed legitimately serious back then.

 

[G-Fex]

It's a Goonies II joke dammit insufferable child. Respect history!!!

You're a goonies II joke

 

[Keyser Soze]

You're a goonies II joke

TOOLS

HAMMER

HIT

 

[G-Fex]

TOOLS

HAMMER

HIT

I'm only familiar with stuff like Shadowgate and Uninvited.

Though you're probably too young to know those.

 

[BillRiccio]

You're a goonies II joke

 

[Alucard]

So, what has been the WWE match of the year for you guys, and what has been the match of the year from all promotions?

Just because I've watched it again recently, I have to go with Tanahashi vs. Suzuki from New Japan Pro Wrestling. Such a well-paced and brilliantly-executed affair.

How about Punk vs. Bryan?

 

[Aiii]

Punk vs Bryan or maybe Bryan vs Sheamus 2 out of 3 falls. Lesnar vs Cena would be third.

 

[Linkified]

So, what has been the WWE match of the year for you guys, and what has been the match of the year from all promotions?

Just because I've watched it again recently, I have to go with Tanahashi vs. Suzuki from New Japan Pro Wrestling. Such a well-paced and brilliantly-executed affair.

How about Punk vs. Bryan?

By favorite match was Skip Van Berg vs CM Punk.

Spoiler

Bryan vs Sheamus at WM - without that we wouldn't of got good stories

 

[Mr. Sam]

WWE match of the year is a toss-up between Punk versus Cena at Night of Champions, Punk versus Bryan at Over The Limit, or Bryan versus Sheamus at Extreme Rules.

All promotions: probably Aries versus Roode at Destination X, though it might not be quite as good as some/all of the above.