BronsonLee
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You got like 4-6 months to wait for BOLA 16 on streaming/VOD
Boots can explain why cause I don' wanna
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You got like 4-6 months to wait for BOLA 16 on streaming/VOD
Boots can explain why cause I don' wanna
oneofthose
Banned
but the way hardcore fans hype these guys that they are so great, i ask what great thing have guys like cesaro, zayn etc done besides a 5 star matches in previous promotions? WWE is not the only one at fault its mainly the talent. Because the guys working in the indys etc they only care about having a great match which is great for the hardcore fans but non hardcore's could care about how good a fake match is technically is.
Theres a reason why vince tends to push guys like Brock, its because they are easier to market towards the mass market compared to guys who look like average joes or homeless.
BronsonLee
Member
Accurate
no, the casual crowd but they do care about storytelling and characters which is where WWE fails the most right now. it's not and either or - you can absolutely have both fantastic matches and great stories/creative. WWE occasionally delivers one due to sheer force of in ring talent but rarely delivers the other due to the nature of how they write their shows and develop characters.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
You got like 4-6 months to wait for BOLA 16 on streaming/VOD
Boots can explain why cause I don' wanna
Is that the thing where if it's streamed anywhere close to live ROH & TNA may pull their stars from being able to attend in future and they make tons of money off dvds?
What mass market, the only people who watch the wwe is the hard core.
Those 6 year olds in a Cena shirts in the front row watch PWG all the time.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Someone who accidentally changed the channel to raw then had the batteries in their remote die
Atomic Odin
Member
Most Hardcores don't watch pwg so what question.
Bluekaveli
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FallingEdge
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Bluekaveli
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I wonder if Steiner is secretly feeding Connor lines. Not lines if coke, not the steinerline but lines to say at wwe. He's basically bpp
SymbiantXenos
Member
The fuck was Styles thinking about.
Absolutely rediculous thing to say at anytime let alone 2016.
Absolutely rediculous thing to say at anytime let alone 2016.
oneofthose
Banned
That's what I'm saying casuals care about characters and story that's why i mentioned guys like the rock who is not known for being a good in ring worker. Mcgregor is a complete character that's why people want to see him fight not his fighting skill. But what I'm saying everyone blames the creative but i see the talent to be of blame as well, most of them just care about having great matches which non hardcore fans care. For some reason Vince has just given up at this point and now wwe is just a glorified ROH or w/e its all about geeks putting great matches.
When wrestling was at its peak there was less focus on the matches, the matches also rarely went past commercial breaks now we have 20 minute long matches.
slightconfuse
Banned
I will watch BOLA one of these days.
Right now it's 90s all Japan
Right now it's 90s all Japan
When Anderson and Gallows had their debut match, it was a 15+ min back and forth contest with the Uso's. No sense. It should have been a 3-4 min match with those two dominating. It legitimizes them way more they than the WWE did.
British Monsoon
Member
How do you know the talent only cares about putting on great matches? They can only work with the material given them, can only perform the characters that creative approve - look at The New Day, three guys floundering without direction until they were allowed to go out there and run with an idea they pushed for.
That ROH comment is so off base, WWE's obsession with having lengthy matches on TV has nothing to do with pleasing the hardcore fans, but rather with their need to fill so many hours of programming. And a lot of those matches don't appeal to the hardcore fans, either because they're rehashes of PPV bouts we've already seen, or because they're wrestled in the usual formulaic WWE-style that doesn't allow half the in-ring freedom of other promotions.
Dangerblade
Member
I was gonna buy the whole DVD set of BOLA but shipping costs to the UK are crazy
HazySaiyan
Banned
I've seen them on eBay sold by British sellers. Might be worth a look.I was gonna buy the whole DVD set of BOLA but shipping costs to the UK are crazy
Vince is the be all and end all of the creative side of the product so turning around and blaming the talent for putting on good matches while being saddled with poor creative seems pretty stupid.
what happened?
You can take the man out of ECW but you can't take the ECW out of the man
wild wild rice
Member
I real miss promos where people are SCREAMING the whole time. What are some of the best?
wild wild rice
Member
Ha, knew this was coming. I'll watch it again.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
Ziggler has killed this for me because he does it in every single promo he has.
Brian_FETO
Banned
I mean he isn't doing it in a gruff wrestler/character voice, he's just whiny
British Monsoon
Member
If you like clearly insane dudes screaming promos, may I recommend Shlak;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-pX-o9pNtU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-pX-o9pNtU
BewareTheBatsie
Member
True, but he's still screaming. And it's the same thing every damn time. Shout until your red in the face and shout more.
avengers23
Banned
Now that I've watched BOLA 2016, it's time to clear off some matches from the backlog.
On the pile of matches to watch, gif, and write about:
Yuji Okabayashi vs. Hideyoshi Kamitani (BJW 7/24)
Twin Towers vs. SMOP (BJW 7/24)
Kento Miyahara vs. Ryouji Sai (AJPW 8/27)
Matt Riddle vs. Chris Hero (Evolve 3/20)
Matt Riddle vs. Chris Hero (Evolve 10/16)
Meiko Satomura vs. Chihiro Hashimoto (Sendai Girls 10/16)
Strong BJ vs. SMOP (BJW 10/14)
Strong BJ vs. Twin Towers (BJW 10/31)
Strong BJ vs. Yankee Two Kenju (BJW 10/31)
And I need to have this done before the insane AJPW show on 11/27:
AJPW NEW EXPLOSION in Ryogouku Kokugikan in Tokyo
What a fucking card. Nomura vs. Nomura has a ton of hype, and that six man tag with Kaji Tomato should be really entertaining. The eight man tag with Dory Funk Jr. and The Great Kabuki in 2016 should be something, all right. Strong BJ vs. The Big Guns should be great, even if the match-up is a bit tired, and I want to see if Miyahara can carry Suwama. And Dragon Soldier B himself, Kendo Kashin, comes out of the ether to team with Akiyama.
On the pile of matches to watch, gif, and write about:
Yuji Okabayashi vs. Hideyoshi Kamitani (BJW 7/24)
Twin Towers vs. SMOP (BJW 7/24)
Kento Miyahara vs. Ryouji Sai (AJPW 8/27)
Matt Riddle vs. Chris Hero (Evolve 3/20)
Matt Riddle vs. Chris Hero (Evolve 10/16)
Meiko Satomura vs. Chihiro Hashimoto (Sendai Girls 10/16)
Strong BJ vs. SMOP (BJW 10/14)
Strong BJ vs. Twin Towers (BJW 10/31)
Strong BJ vs. Yankee Two Kenju (BJW 10/31)
And I need to have this done before the insane AJPW show on 11/27:
AJPW NEW EXPLOSION in Ryogouku Kokugikan in Tokyo
- Naoya Nomura vs. Takuya Nomura
- Jake Lee, Yuma Aoyagi & Koji Iwamoto vs. Ryoji Sai, Kengo Mashimo & Konosuke Takeshita (DDT)
- Super Tiger, Ryuji Hijikata, Rey Paloma & Diablo vs. DARK NIGHTMARE Mitsuya Nagai, Tatsuhito Takaiwa, Takeshi Minamino & Black Tiger VII
- Jun Akiyama & Kendo Kashin vs. Takao Omori & Manabu Soya
- SUSHI, Tsuyoshi Kikuchi & Masao Inoue vs. Kaji Tomato, Kazuhiro Tamura & Naoshi Sano (Sano-Damashii)
- Dory Funk Jr., Chavo Guerrero Sr., Ultimo Dragon & TAJIRI vs. The Great Kabuki, Osamu Nishimura, Yutaka Yoshie & Isami Kodaka
- GAORA TV Championship Match: Yohei Nakajima (c) vs. Jiro Ikemen Kuroshio
- World Junior Heavyweight Championship Match: Soma Takao (c) vs. Keisuke Ishii
- Asia Tag Championship Match: Atsushi Aoki & Hikaru Sato (c) vs. Masanobu Fuchi & Atsushi Onita (c)
- World Tag Championship Match: Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi (c) vs. Zeus & The Bodyguard
- Triple Crown Heavyweight Championship Match: Kento Miyahara (c) vs. Suwama
What a fucking card. Nomura vs. Nomura has a ton of hype, and that six man tag with Kaji Tomato should be really entertaining. The eight man tag with Dory Funk Jr. and The Great Kabuki in 2016 should be something, all right. Strong BJ vs. The Big Guns should be great, even if the match-up is a bit tired, and I want to see if Miyahara can carry Suwama. And Dragon Soldier B himself, Kendo Kashin, comes out of the ether to team with Akiyama.
Bluekaveli
Member
Seph, we're fooked mate
Dangerblade
Member
Just had a look...still really expensive, buy it now and auctions. Will keep an eye out though, thanks!
Sweeney Tom
Banned
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Two sources familiar with the discussions tell us @Linda_McMahon is under consideration for Cabinet position, maybe Commerce. (w/ @ajjaffe)
WWE embracing the hate
@HallieJackson
Two sources familiar with the discussions tell us @Linda_McMahon is under consideration for Cabinet position, maybe Commerce. (w/ @ajjaffe)
WWE embracing the hate
Bluekaveli
Member
Linda makes the ultimate heel turn
And that would be the day I say enough is enough and stop watching WWE.
FlammableD
Banned
all these UFC guys are so unlikable, they're all giant bellends
UrbanDandy
Member
Still a great song.
Also, I was searching for who was the recipient of Joey Styles' 'joke' ...
Dammit. One simply does not say those type of words to any women.
So true, take away all the sexist, racist, and generally stupid shit of the PG-13 rating, but keep swearing and blood capsules and I'll be much happier.
HazySaiyan
Banned
Why is this even a gif
avengers23
Banned
SHIMMER recorded new shows this weekend, but they're still stuck on SHIMMER 73, which was taped in April. They're 7 months behind their tapings. JEEZUS.
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