Owens was a participant in the match. So he got DQed. Ambrose was already eliminated, so what do they do? Eliminate the guy from the other team currently in the ring? There's precedent for this with the Team Austin vs. Team Bischoff match. Jericho got eliminated and immediately attacked HBK with a weapon, and there's nothing the ref could do.
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Owens was a participant in the match. So he got DQed. Ambrose was already eliminated, so what do they do? Eliminate the guy from the other team currently in the ring? There's precedent for this with the Team Austin vs. Team Bischoff match. Jericho got eliminated and immediately attacked HBK with a weapon, and there's nothing the ref could do.
avengers23
Banned
This is why I liked the men's match. It properly continued the stories for the people involved. Owens using the list as a weapon. Dean turning on Styles and helping Roman and Reigns eliminate him. Randy taking a spear for Bray. Ellsworth keeping Braun outside. All moments that built on the characters and laid groundwork for continuing their stories.
Compared to the Tag and Women's matches, which were just everyone getting their shit in with no care for storytelling at all. What a waste.
excelsiorlef
Member
I was hoping for Lesnar to do what he does and continue on.
Look I'll be on the level. I'm salty because I actually like Lesnar
BewareTheBatsie
Member
What I mean is that outside interference is outside interference and it should be an automatic DQ. We had it earlier in the same night in a singles match with Baron rushing in on the CW match. Ambrose may have been in the match beforehand but he got eliminated, him coming out again and actively fighting legal participants, even if his own teammate is still grounds for a DQ against someone on the Raw team (Roman and Rollins probably should have gotten the DQ given they helped Dean beat AJ up).
Data gets it. Data always got it.As I've said before, wrestling SPECIFICALLY WWE, is at its best when its at its dumbest
Wrestling is stupid. Wrestling is fun. Wrestling is entertainment.
According to Ryan Satin, Goldberg signed on to be at the Royal rumble:
http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/goldberg-royal-rumble-deal/#.WDJyoqIrJE4?platform=hootsuite
http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/goldberg-royal-rumble-deal/#.WDJyoqIrJE4?platform=hootsuite
Sweeney Tom
Banned
I feel like this is your birthday
WCW Wins
Goldberg Wins
Old Guy Protects His Spot
Squash
Happy Ending
SHOOT
Lesnar has lost matches since ending the streak. His "credibility" didn't disappear then and it doesn't now. The next guy that beats Brock Lesnar is still a guy who beats Brock Lesnar. It's not some kind of math equation where the credibility gets subtracted from the loser of the match. It's an ongoing story, and this makes perfect sense as a chapter of that story. Lesnar will win the third match, which will likely go a proper length, and redeem his character from this uncharacteristic and unexpected setback.
This is a million times better, and more interesting, than another Lesnar squash and another Heyman "I TOLD YOU SO" promo on Raw tomorrow.
Bluekaveli
Member
Oh fuck, he's winning it?
Brock didn't lose tonight, Brock was squashed. That's the difference.
I'm 100% ok with Golgberg's victory. The problem is how it was achieved.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
I hope Goldberg squashes the whole roster in under 90 seconds
Dean will take 5
Dean will take 5
I really want to know what Miz does. I hope he doesn't defect to Raw.
In my mind, Lesnar losing a long, hard fought, almost certainly boring match would be worse for his character than this. More minutes of bad TV that he'd be a part of. Tonight, Goldberg effectively sucker-punched him and got the win before Brock could properly take stock of the situation.
Agree to disagree, but I'd like to think you can see a certain degree of logic in this.
Wrestlemania 2000 changed that
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
Goldberg comes out at #30 and is destroying everyone... and then Brock comes in through the crowd and screws him over, setting up a WM match.
Hmmmmm, I'm getting deja vu all of the sudden
It's true! Many similarities between myself and wrasslin. I'm at my worst when I stop being stupid fun entertainment
I think you know who we need to beat Goldberg
Somebody is about to text himself.
Uno Venova
Banned
Part timers giving the rub to new up and comers never ever goddamn happens like why do people keep asking for it, it's WWE.
This kind of stuff barely even mixes in the the actual full time roster, it's a fantasy league of legends trading wins with each other a couple of times a year to bring in ratings, this shit doesn't matter.
This kind of stuff barely even mixes in the the actual full time roster, it's a fantasy league of legends trading wins with each other a couple of times a year to bring in ratings, this shit doesn't matter.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
GOLDBERG TO HELP
Sorry, but I really don't see how an actual hard fought battle between the two most dominant of all time could be worse for any of their characters than one of them being treated worse than Sin Cara in his matches against Braun Strowman.
But I agree with the agree to disagree part.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
I like how every time Br*ck fucks WWE over in contract negotiations he gets jobbed out to Goldberg
I'd frame it like this: Lesnar being surprised by a 50 year old man is better than Lesnar failing to outlast a 50 year old man in an actual contest.
But I think we're looking at it from different angles.
Bluekaveli
Member
Quit whining, if you don't like it, don't watch it.
slightconfuse
Banned
Part timers are the only draws
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Only negative I have about that result is Sting should have gotten treated better. WCW deserved better than just this one ounce of good, post-death
The Br*ck era is over, we did it. I did it.
The Br*ck era is over, we did it. I did it.
Anyone "whining" watched the product and came to the ot to express their opinion. Your post is just as bad as saying "Stop whining. If you don't like people talking about a wrestling promotion/PPV, don't open the thread."
Is this a work?
What the hell bro.
Bluekaveli
Member
You haven't done anything. Brock makes 3 mil a year, how about you? Until you're negotiating contracts with the biggest promotion in the world you've yet to do anything. Vince doesn't care what you or anyone else thinks.
sf2fanatic
Member
Yo Blue, you may get a call from Packers. They need players ASAP
E: Can you still go?
E: Can you still go?
Bluekaveli
Member
So? You still paid or took time out to watch it, if you think it sucks, stop watching. Either way, Vince won.
excelsiorlef
Member
Yeah but if they did that by all logic all a team woukd have to do.is get on of their guys intentionally beaten and then come back out and "attack" their teammates until the other team all got DQ'd
Bluekaveli
Member
Team needs Jesus to play every position. No secondary, no sense, no nothing. THE FUCKING REDSKINS AND THE TITANS!
sf2fanatic
Member
So? You still paid or took time out to watch it, if you think it sucks, stop watching. Either way, Vince won.
I really don't care if Vince won and don't think that the way anyone chooses to spend their time and/or money is of your concern. But, oh well, keep on with the quality posting. It sure does wonders for the community.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
Which is a whole other can of worms. I guess at the end of it it's just another example of WWE using rules and forgetting them in the blink of an eye that will never change.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
November 20, 2016: We did it and I did it
Cader I love your posts, keep fighting the good fight and ignore anyone telling you to stop. We did it and we always will do it
That said, please respect the dead and get a younger happier moment of Shane's as an av. It's what he'd have wanted
Cader I love your posts, keep fighting the good fight and ignore anyone telling you to stop. We did it and we always will do it
That said, please respect the dead and get a younger happier moment of Shane's as an av. It's what he'd have wanted
Bluekaveli
Member
BaltimoreLarry
Member
That was long. My kid got bored and stopped watching like four times.