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[Recall]

1997 is probably the best year to be a wrestling fan.

And yet at the time not one person said so. The amount of fucking complaining and whinging around that time puts this era to shit.

No one realises what they had until it was gone.

Though in 1997 people could remember the main events of PPVs from the big 2 without having to look that shit up, it was all taken for granted.

 

[HazySaiyan]

This James Ellsworth stuff is a stupid fucking meme that has far outstayed its welcome.

when you shoot on yourself, but that shoot is a work, and you are actually shooting on vince and creative

shoooooooooot

This is some Inception level shooting.

 

[whatevermort]

Obviously Mojo is terrible. But he's also started to look terrible - awful outfits, and he's got quite the jiggly tummy going on these days. He just looks like he's getting less fit, somehow.

 

[Data West]

This Brian Breaker has a decent WRASSLIN look

looks like Scott Norton

 

[Syder]

He's being groomed to have a pretty huge role at Wrestlemania as an extra during Triple H's entrance for when he faces Goldberg in the main event

Wwe booking.

Do you really care though? Be honest

I don't think I've heard his name mentioned on SD or on podcasts or on this forum in at least 2 months. I thought I'd forgotten him getting an injury or something but nope it's just irrelevance. AC has to be the worst NXT call-up so far.
Can he shed some mass and be a Cruiserweight? Apollo Crews-erweight.

 

[Data West]

Brian Breaker got potential

this other guy not so much

 

[Data West]

holy smokes this woman with yujiro

 

[Data West]

Adam Page and Yujiro Takahashi went over Rush and Naito

you guys should sotp watching this shit promotion

 

[Angelina]

Why the fuck has aj lost more to elsworth than Chris jericho 😂😂

Even when seth had title and lost all his matches but ppvs he wasnt jobbing to a jobber

 

[British Monsoon]

Adam Page and Yujiro Takahashi went over Rush and Naito

you guys should sotp watching this shit promotion

Actually, you should stop watching it. Other people actually enjoy it, you just watch it for Naito and bitch about everything else. The constant negativity is beyond tiring.

Also, it's the World Tag League, who gives a fuck? Plus you know Naito can't win because he has to defend the IC title at the Tokyo Dome.

 

[HazySaiyan]

Adam Page and Yujiro Takahashi went over Rush and Naito

you guys should sotp watching this shit promotion

At least tell me Rush took the pin. Right? Right???

 

[Adree]

Why the fuck has aj lost more to elsworth than Chris jericho 😂😂

Even when seth had title and lost all his matches but ppvs he wasnt jobbing to a jobber

Would you rather he lose them to Dean?

 

[miserable]

Tencozy gonna make it to the finals, right?

 

[klonere]

NJPW should probably just shut the doors at this point i m o!!!!!

 

[klonere]

Brand New Gate was more great fun from Dragon Gate, they are on a pretty fantastic run of consistently enjoyable shows. Enjoying the new VerserK lineup with Lindaman and T-Hawku~. Interested to see what the new unit ends up being with so many free agents right now.

 

[Pikma]

Would you rather he lose them to Dean?

It's basically the same, he's losing to Ellsworth and Ambrose

 

[Adree]

It's basically the same, he's losing to Ellsworth and Ambrose

I think Ellsworth works stiffer.

 

[PHOENIXZERO]

Obviously Mojo is terrible. But he's also started to look terrible - awful outfits, and he's got quite the jiggly tummy going on these days. He just looks like he's getting less fit, somehow.

That seems to happen with a lot of call ups due to no longer having a set routine and easy workout access at the Performance Center.

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

Felt like I was listening to meltz when I was hearing dbry say management isn't making stars like the old guys like goldberg were.

shots fired at vince

 

[Atomic Odin]

 

[klonere]

lolNOAH spoilers

Spoiler

KES win the tag belts again. Yano/Maru reign was for ??? reasons. Time is a flat circle. At least the Global League finals is a fresh matchup.

Appropriate gif accompaniment

 

[Data West]

I'm sorry I don't know why I'm not more positive about the Vincent and Stevie Ray of Bullet club going over the biggest stars of NJPW and CMLL clean

 

[FlammableD]

it's a new japan round robin, doesn't anyone beat anyone in those

 

[klonere]

i mean in 2013 Okada and Tana finished second last and last in their groups respectively. Styles came last in 2015 in his block I think.

idk I guess, I'm just not that attached to Rush. Doesn't seem like that big a deal to me, especially if they are committed to keeping the Bullet Club around in something more than an obligatory, zombie like state.

 

[klonere]

NOAH spoilers

Spoiler

Suzuki wins Global League, predictable but hopefully Kitamiya comes out of it looking good

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

And yet at the time not one person said so. The amount of fucking complaining and whinging around that time puts this era to shit.

No one realises what they had until it was gone.

Though in 1997 people could remember the main events of PPVs from the big 2 without having to look that shit up, it was all taken for granted.

I know the New Generation era gets shit on, but 94-97 is my favorite era. It started for me with Wrestlemania X and while it was bumpy at times, man was some of it just so good.

 

[Data West]

New Generation is great, warts and all. The best wrestling is when you have a small, plucky roster that you basically have your 5 or so guys and you book everything around them. Razor, Diesel, Shawn, Bret, Owen, Yoko, Taker and Kid. It's easy to map out a storyline when you know where your focus is. Which is why I also enjoyed pre-Hogan WCW so much. Vader, Sting, Flair, Rude, Luger and Steiners. Though they had more of a revolving door of old WWF guys like Jake

NOAH spoilers

Spoiler

Suzuki wins Global League, predictable but hopefully Kitamiya comes out of it looking good

Enuhito said that Suzuki(no one cares about NOAH spoilers) said loser leaves town for the title match. Which could be an Enuhito mistranslation like Akiyama being in a deathmatch with Onita, but that nad Yano losing makes it sound like those two are probably headed back to NJPW with the buyout of NOAH.

 

[klonere]

New Generation is great, warts and all. The best wrestling is when you have a small, plucky roster that you basically have your 5 or so guys and you book everything around them. Razor, Diesel, Shawn, Bret, Owen, Yoko, Taker and Kid. It's easy to map out a storyline when you know where your focus is. Which is why I also enjoyed pre-Hogan WCW so much. Vader, Sting, Flair, Rude, Luger and Steiners. Though they had more of a revolving door of old WWF guys like Jake



Enuhito said that Suzuki(no one cares about NOAH spoilers) said loser leaves town for the title match. Which could be an Enuhito mistranslation like Akiyama being in a deathmatch with Onita, but that nad Yano losing makes it sound like those two are probably headed back to NJPW with the buyout of NOAH.

The thing is, given his G1 run, there's a shot that Nakajima could go to NJPW as well. Not as likely as Suzuki but still a slim chance.

 

[Zach]

Sorry I wasn't here to protect you from British Monsoon, Data West. Maybe some good will come from that thrashing, though. Maybe you'll start to appreciate what you have before it's gone like WCW.

 

[Data West]

2003 AJPW is weird

The Wall(HEY WALL) teaming with Earthquake.

 

[klonere]

 

[avengers23]

AJPW's upcoming Sumo Hall card on November 27 is what they would eclectic:

Triple Crown: Kento Miyahara (c) vs. SUWAMA

World Tag Team Championships: Strong BJ (Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi) (c) vs. Big Guns (Zeus & The Bodyguard)

Kendo Kashin & Jun Akiyama vs. Manabu Soya & Takao Omori

All Asia Tag Team Championships: Hikaru Sato & Atsushi Aoki (c) vs. Atsushi Onita & Masanobu Fuichi

Isami Kodaka, Great Kabuki, Yutaka Yoshie & Osamu Nishimura vs. TAJIRI, Chavo Guerrero Sr., Ultimo Dragon & Dory Funk Jr.

GAORA TV Title: Yohei Nakajima (c) vs. Jiro ‘Ikemen’ Kuroshio

AJPW Jr. Heavyweight Championship: Soma Takao (c) vs. Keisuke Ishii

SUSHI, Tsuyoshi Kikuchi & Masao Inoue vs. Kazuhiro Tamura, Kaji Tomato & Naoshi Sano

Konosuke Takeshita, Kengo Mashimo & Ryoji Sai vs. Jake Lee, Yuma Aoyagi & Koji Iwamoto

Ray Paloma, Diablo, Ryuji Hijikata & Super Tiger vs. Dark Nightmare (Takeshi Minamino, Mitsuya Nagai, Tatsuhito Takaiwa & Black Tiger VII)

Naoya Nomura vs. Takuya Nomura

 

[Data West]

Jimmy Yang and Elix Skipper(in a mask) take on Mike Awesome and Amazing Red

what
One thing is for certain, both of these teams would go over Naito clean if Gedo was booking it.

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

New Generation is great, warts and all. The best wrestling is when you have a small, plucky roster that you basically have your 5 or so guys and you book everything around them. Razor, Diesel, Shawn, Bret, Owen, Yoko, Taker and Kid. It's easy to map out a storyline when you know where your focus is. Which is why I also enjoyed pre-Hogan WCW so much. Vader, Sting, Flair, Rude, Luger and Steiners. Though they had more of a revolving door of old WWF guys like Jake

I think that's just it, everything was so much more focused. Even as the roster began to expand in 96/97 everything still felt more focused, even in WCW (pre-NWO expansion). Perhaps this is why Smackdown feels like the much better show, there is a focus (tag team excluded) because the roster is smaller.

 

[klonere]

Craziest TV bump of the year from AJ?

https://streamable.com/d3kd

God Vince really must find Ellsworth to be absolutely the height of comedy.

AJPW's upcoming Sumo Hall card on November 27 is what they would eclectic:

Triple Crown: Kento Miyahara (c) vs. SUWAMA

World Tag Team Championships: Strong BJ (Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi) (c) vs. Big Guns (Zeus & The Bodyguard)

Kendo Kashin & Jun Akiyama vs. Manabu Soya & Takao Omori

All Asia Tag Team Championships: Hikaru Sato & Atsushi Aoki (c) vs. Atsushi Onita & Masanobu Fuichi

Isami Kodaka, Great Kabuki, Yutaka Yoshie & Osamu Nishimura vs. TAJIRI, Chavo Guerrero Sr., Ultimo Dragon & Dory Funk Jr.

GAORA TV Title: Yohei Nakajima (c) vs. Jiro ‘Ikemen’ Kuroshio

AJPW Jr. Heavyweight Championship: Soma Takao (c) vs. Keisuke Ishii

SUSHI, Tsuyoshi Kikuchi & Masao Inoue vs. Kazuhiro Tamura, Kaji Tomato & Naoshi Sano

Konosuke Takeshita, Kengo Mashimo & Ryoji Sai vs. Jake Lee, Yuma Aoyagi & Koji Iwamoto

Ray Paloma, Diablo, Ryuji Hijikata & Super Tiger vs. Dark Nightmare (Takeshi Minamino, Mitsuya Nagai, Tatsuhito Takaiwa & Black Tiger VII)

Naoya Nomura vs. Takuya Nomura

I am, as they say, fired up for this card. Set the alarm bright and early. Can't wait for all the indie sleaze and Kento retaining, setting up his eventual loss to Suzuki in the next few months.

Right?

 

[Data West]

Need to get Takeda in the Triple Crown mix. Too popular for junior heavyweight stuff.

And he's a shooter too.

 

[klonere]

Since we don't give a fuck about NOAH spoilers

 

[Data West]

 

[kiguel182]

I still enjoy Smackdown but Ambrose is just annoying.

And James has stayed on for too long. He is great in small doses but I mean, this is too much.

The show is still great and much better than Raw which I can't even get past the opening segment.

 

[Foggy]

Adam Page and Yujiro Takahashi went over Rush and Naito

you guys should sotp watching this shit promotion

Bruh, it's the tag league

 

[Zach]

Gotta get me one of those Alliance MVP shirts.

 

[imBask]

Zach why did you give an F to Rock Bottom?

Rock vs Mankind was great, how can you give a COMPLETE FAILURE to a PPV with a 4 star match on it?

 

[Zach]

I dunno. It was probably the same ol' crap I'd been watching for weeks but worse.

I'd probably be on board with this poorly booked Alliance business if Austin insisted on being called "Stunning" Steve Austin after defecting. But no! Another missed opportunity.

 

[HazySaiyan]

Craziest TV bump of the year from AJ?

https://streamable.com/d3kd

God Vince really must find Ellsworth to be absolutely the height of comedy.

Fucking stupid, AJ should not be taking bumps like that in a match on TV against James fucking Ellsworth. That was a hair away from going wrong.

Way to make your champs look strong, guys!

 

[Zach]

The best part of that show was Mankind vs. The Rock, because it was Mankind vs. The Rock. But even that was soiled by them standing next to each other as besties in a random backstage segment (see pic above), Mankind's stupidly remixed theme, excessive shenanigans during their match, and a dumb finish.

God.

There ya go, imbask.

 

[imBask]

hey the shenanigans were fun! any match with Vince making stupid faces at ringside is great

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

Has anyone said "chin up" to ellsworth yet to buck up his spirits?

 

[ratcliffja]

Has anyone said "chin up" to ellsworth yet to buck up his spirits?

The Club did at Survivor Series along with a ton of other chin puns.

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

The Club did at Survivor Series along with a ton of other chin puns.

Cheers, not sure how I missed that.

 

[BronsonLee]

The running gag of AJ being able to slice through anybody except the goddamn random jobber who keeps fluke beating him = A++++